Camper van concerns raised in Northumberland coastal village

maingate said:
I have been knackered for a long time. I am not some newcomer to wilding and nearly all of the spots we used are long gone. That is why I wild much less these days and it means I am now paying to overnight. That has cost me a lot of money over the years due to idiots buying motorhomes.

The only thing worse than these idiots are the whingeing motorhomers who complain all the time but don't get off their arse to do anything about it except complain. Like you. :mad:
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so you reckon I have done nothing about it.
Well you just keep telling yourself that. ;)
You obviously reckon that anyone who thinks differently is an idiot. We are all idiots apart from maingate. :LOL:
 
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maingate said:
I have been knackered for a long time. I am not some newcomer to wilding and nearly all of the spots we used are long gone. That is why I wild much less these days and it means I am now paying to overnight. That has cost me a lot of money over the years due to idiots buying motorhomes.

The only thing worse than these idiots are the whingeing motorhomers who complain all the time but don't get off their arse to do anything about it except complain. Like you. :mad:
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Well said that man. 👏👏👏👏👏
 
jagmanx said:
Poor car owners have nowhere to keep their rubbish ! :unsure: :devilish:🐖 Too difficult to open the boot!
Looking onGoogle Satellite there were 200-250 vehicles on site maybe 2x MoHo and 2 x Stealth vehicles
@£2 a hit I suggest there is enough to pay for attendants and rubbish disposal facilities (for the car occupants ONLY of course !)
How much does the Ice-cream Van pay ?
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More than likely several thousands of £s per year for the contract.
 
And yet ...

there is no suggestion that any resident has complained. Only that the odd coucillor has seen overnght parking happening. It seems it worries him = but he hasn't said any resident is worried about it. I have a suspicion that there will have been no complaints.

Though asked to investigate - nor have the Burgage Holders complained. I'd not heard of burgages before and it's interesting to google the term. This might be nothing to do wiht the council at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgage or https://burgageholders.co.uk/

This could be really interesting.
 
Alnmouth.

Very pretty place, but imagine it to be mostly occupied these days by a fair proportion of incomers.

I love the comment (not!):- "It’s obviously a problem and it’s something we’ve got to keep an eye on because it’s a cheap overnight stay for them.”

Why is is 'obviously a problem'? Simply because it's a 'cheap overnight stay'?! That's not really a problem, is it? Unless there is other anti-social behaviour at play, of which there is no mention in the article, so I would seriously doubt that is the case as the local press wouldn't have missed a golden opportunity to mention it.

So, nimbyism would seem to be a fair bet with this situation.

According to members' previous comments in this thread it's now £7 to park up for a motorhome in the beach car park, so it's not exactly a freebie whichever way you look at it.

The parish councillor making all the comments quoted in the article has an art gallery (online only) and lives in Alnmouth himself.

I have roughly penned a letter to them about this, with the intention of copying in appropriate bods at the County Council, but hanging fire just now as not sure whether it will be a help or a hindrance for us...

Maybe need to do a bit more digging into the other parish councillors first. There may very well be someone with a vested interest in not wanting us parked anywhere outside a designated commercial campsite. Or there might not.

Could be that they just want people to follow the rules. If it says no overnighting it usually means no overnighting.
Could well just be a handful of covidiots new to motor homing who haven't got a clue, or are just selfish gits normally.
 
maingate said:
Overnighting has never been allowed on the Beach car park, there are signs to that effect.
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But are the signs legal as when you read the article on the link it seems no laws have been broken BUT as usual they now want to put up a gate and are awaiting to see if planning permission is required.Another case of you cant stay for free overnight so F"' oFF
 
Fisherman said:
Exactly the list is growing fast, and that’s why those remaining are at times overused. It does not take a genius to work out that more vans each year, and less places to park creates problems. But when we have folk on here advocating using expensive CCTV to catch someone staying somewhere for the night, instead of dealing with the issue, I reckon we are well and truly knackered.
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And Fisherman this year due to this Pandemic many are buying Motorhomes and campervans and will follow like sheep anyone they see parked for free somewhere,and join them.Pressure is then placed on Nimby councillors to quickly ban us.Why cant they provide areas cheaply to accomodate us.? Not camping sites but for instance a field or disused piece of land.Its not rocket science.
 
yorkslass said:
They are......because of covid they may have spent more time at home
Unfortunately one motorhome looks much like another to most folk, so i stay one night and leave the following day to be replaced by someone else in a white box on wheels.
As for the difference in parking charges, it's discrimination but this has been going on for ages with the erection of height barriers. Where i live and pay council tax I can't park in a council owned car park because of height barriers.
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So get onto your Council tell them the extravagant amount you pay in Council Tax and get them to explain why you cant get your vehicle in.If we all stopped paying CT what could they do(another topic im sure)
 
Well apart from the chairman who sells art online (and I think may either own or be involved with the Old School Gallery?), one other member is owner of the Red Lion Inn and 2 members are Burbage Holders.

Alnmouth Common:-

"Commons are one of our ancient institutions, older by far than even Parliament or the Monarchy and are a legacy from the time when much of our land was wild and used “in common”.

There are 96 commons in Northumberland but there are more than 8500 in England and Wales; they cover a total area of more than 500.000 hectares.

In Alnmouth, the ancient common rights date from the 12th century and attach by law and title to some of the properties in the village, the owners of these properties are the Burgage Holders – today’s peasantry. Although the manorial system gave the commons legal owners, the peasantry kept their customary rights to share in the produce – grazing for their stock, wood for their fires etc.

The common is managed by a committee of Burgage Holders whose main aims are to safe guard and conserve the natural beauty of the common for future generations and to manage natural habitat for wild life, we welcome visitors to explore the main paths and tracks where you can enjoy watching the ever changing moods of the North Sea from strategically placed benches and picnic tables, or use our reasonably priced car park to leave your car and take the scenic walk to the village with it’s many amenities".
 
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...and an extract from an article a few weeks ago about the beach car park.

"The car park, between the golf course and beach by the boat houses, has been closed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic.
It is operated by the village burgage holders and talks have been held with the parish council on what steps to take now that lockdown restrictions have been eased.
Coun Shaun Whyte, parish council chairman, said: “The burgage holders are very keen that we provide a united view as to when the car park should open. I would absolutely welcome that cooperation with the parish council in coming to a decision."

I guess the car park money raised goes towards their conservation efforts, which sounds reasonable?

The whole article is here and helps get a sense of the bigger picture:-

https://www.northumberlandgazette.c...emains-closed-despite-easing-lockdown-2856257

@mickymost - don't think non-payment of council tax would affect this particular situation? :unsure:

It's the Burgage Holders you have to get on side ;)
 
mickymost said:
But are the signs legal as when you read the article on the link it seems no laws have been broken BUT as usual they now want to put up a gate and are awaiting to see if planning permission is required.Another case of you cant stay for free overnight so F"' oFF
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I don't think the car park belongs to the council, but I could be wrong... :)
 
mariesnowgoose said:
Alnmouth.

Very pretty place, but imagine it to be mostly occupied these days by a fair proportion of incomers.

I love the comment (not!):- "It’s obviously a problem and it’s something we’ve got to keep an eye on because it’s a cheap overnight stay for them.”

Why is is 'obviously a problem'? Simply because it's a 'cheap overnight stay'?! That's not really a problem, is it? Unless there is other anti-social behaviour at play, of which there is no mention in the article, so I would seriously doubt that is the case as the local press wouldn't have missed a golden opportunity to mention it.

So, nimbyism would seem to be a fair bet with this situation.

According to members' previous comments in this thread it's now £7 to park up for a motorhome in the beach car park, so it's not exactly a freebie whichever way you look at it.

The parish councillor making all the comments quoted in the article has an art gallery (online only) and lives in Alnmouth himself.

I have roughly penned a letter to them about this, with the intention of copying in appropriate bods at the County Council, but hanging fire just now as not sure whether it will be a help or a hindrance for us...

Maybe need to do a bit more digging into the other parish councillors first. There may very well be someone with a vested interest in not wanting us parked anywhere outside a designated commercial campsite. Or there might not.

Could be that they just want people to follow the rules. If it says no overnighting it usually means no overnighting.
Could well just be a handful of covidiots new to motor homing who haven't got a clue, or are just selfish gits normally.
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Marie do you have the email address. I cannot find it. I would like to send them a message
 
clerk@alnmouthparishcouncil.org.uk

At the risk of insulting your intelligence, don't go in there all guns blazing...
I think gentle persuasion and a good, strong argument about why they should be making us welcome is perhaps a better route to go down in this specific instance?

It may or may not get you anywhere, but best not to poke a potential hornet's nest with too big a stick?
 
mariesnowgoose said:
clerk@alnmouthparishcouncil.org.uk

At the risk of insulting your intelligence, don't go in there all guns blazing...
I think gentle persuasion and a good, strong argument about why they should be making us welcome is perhaps a better route to go down in this specific instance?

It may or may not get you anywhere, but best not to poke a potential hornet's nest with too big a stick?
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stop reading my mind ;)

Thanks Marie
 
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