Battery Type

Im sorry Paul but your view point is becoming boring. The fact that leisure batteries are manufactured differently to lorry batterries and have different charge/discharge characteristics means they are different. The statement that they are the same and simply badged differently is incorrect.

Many on this site use lorry vehicle satisfactorily has absolutely no bearing on the matter.

You can be as technical as you want but a fact is a fact.
 
The fact that leisure batteries are manufactured differently to lorry batterries and have different charge/discharge characteristics means they are different.

But they are not! It is a big CON! There is no such thing as a "leisure battery", manufactures present dubious "facts" to maintain they exist! You have heard the saying "figures can be used to prove anything" that is what they are doing. In fact on another site a user has had several leisure batteries and now uses van starter batteries, because of the failure rates! The real deep cycle batteries are too expensive to use in motorhomes and doubt not practical anyhow!
 
Sorry Paul cant continue this blinkered debate. Just going out to Trading Standards to report that I have just been mis-sold two leisure batteries that I have just bought!!! This guy on forum says its a big con.
 
Sorry Paul cant continue this blinkered debate. Just going out to Trading Standards to report that I have just been mis-sold two leisure batteries that I have just bought!!! This guy on forum says its a big con.

Me too.:rolleyes:
 
I have just been mis-sold two leisure batteries that I have just bought!!! This guy on forum says its a big con.

I'm glad you've come to your senses at last. And I knew there was a reason why you were taking a belligerent attitude, it's because you have fallen for the con! And you don't like to lose face by reading the data on the link I've posted! Now i will adjust my opinion if you have any evidence, but you'll not have any! Yes I thought the same as you that leisure batteries were the way to go, until I investigated the subject. And seen as there are many people just using starter batteries on the site and others (and are happy to) if treat right, it has been proved to me that "leisure batteries" are a con!
 
I'm glad you've come to your senses at last. And I knew there was a reason why you were taking a belligerent attitude, it's because you have fallen for the con! And you don't like to lose face by reading the data on the link I've posted! Now i will adjust my opinion if you have any evidence, but you'll not have any! Yes I thought the same as you that leisure batteries were the way to go, until I investigated the subject. And seen as there are many people just using starter batteries on the site and others (and are happy to) if treat right, it has been proved to me that "leisure batteries" are a con!

Its a pity you are so gullible in believing all you read, which is evident in your postings.

You ended a posting with such an impolite "Ah so you have nothing to back you up then! Game, set and match to me then!" You should realise this is not a game more like a sport. As with fishing, when you catch a wee tiddler you throw it back and hope that it will grow up so you can get better sport in the future.

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I'm glad you've come to your senses at last. And I knew there was a reason why you were taking a belligerent attitude, it's because you have fallen for the con! And you don't like to lose face by reading the data on the link I've posted! Now i will adjust my opinion if you have any evidence, but you'll not have any! Yes I thought the same as you that leisure batteries were the way to go, until I investigated the subject. And seen as there are many people just using starter batteries on the site and others (and are happy to) if treat right, it has been proved to me that "leisure batteries" are a con!

Your 'evidence' is taken from a site with a financial gain to be made.

I'll take Varta's word before Sterlings thank you.

Evidence?:rolleyes:
 
Sorry Paul cant continue this blinkered debate. Just going out to Trading Standards to report that I have just been mis-sold two leisure batteries that I have just bought!!! This guy on forum says its a big con.

all i can say is if you ask for advice to save money and you ignore it then why ask and you must have more money than sense. if you go to any caravan centre the prices are so hicked up cause of gullable people who won't listen to advice
 
all i can say is if you ask for advice to save money and you ignore it then why ask and you must have more money than sense. if you go to any caravan centre the prices are so hicked up cause of gullable people who won't listen to advice

Good chance I wont bump into you at Yorkshire Caravans then !!!:)

Channa
 
Totally agree with you Gordon there are a lot of gullible people that believe all they read.

Two 110A/h leisure batteries brand new for £130. Yes I have more money than sense.

Im glad I answered the OP in the beginning as he will be wondering what all this is to do about if it was OK to fit under seat
 
I'll take Varta's word before Sterlings thank you.

Well I've checked the Sterling website and they do not deal in batteries as far as I can see! So who is more likely to give independent advice? Sterling or Varta, who not only make batteries but charge a premium for their leisure products.

Anyhow here are some quotes from the Sterling site

"Watch the term leisure / deep cycle as it simply does not exist. The standard, so called, leisure batteries, are simply starter batteries with extra support for the active lead material. This may increase the life by 5 – 10 %, but does not turn a starter battery into a deep cycle battery."

"if you plan to live on board (boats} or travel the world then do look at 6 V or 2 V traction and build your battery bank up from those batteries, but expect to pay about 3 – 6 times the price of so called standard leisure batteries"

"Battery sales companies quote battery cycles such as 6000 cycles for the battery. This looks good on the surface, however it will be 6000 cycles at say 10% discharge. This is a meaningless figure." Remember figures can be made to mean anything, with a little bit of spin!

"So, for deep cycle and long life, the traction batteries are by far and away the best. But their price tends to kill them. However, if you are doing a long journey around the world, or going away from the UK for 2 years plus, then investing in 2 volt or 6 volt traction batteries is a must, regardless of the cost."

"For general leisure use: use low cost Lead Acid which can be topped up with water. So called leisure batteries"

And from various other sources

“I've had various makes of leisure battery, and not been that impressed with any of them to be honest. Some have been dead inside 6 months, and I only use them occasionally”

“All can say is I get the most staying power (and quickest charge obviously!) out the 90 amp hr starter battery..and repeated draining and charging does not seem to bother it at all.”

“All the leisure batteries i have bought have been a real disappointment, some not lasting very long at all.”

“I have a couple of old Delphi lorry batteries which i have abused over 6 or 7 years”

And surprise, surprise a Varta battery

Specifications
"12V 85Ah
Deep-cycle & Starting
advanced semi-traction technology for extreme deep cycling"

Just what is a semi_traction battery? It's like been semi-pregeant! And "Deep-cycle & Starting" is not possible, because it has to be low current at slow discharge or provide cranking current (800 amps (?)) in short bursts.
 
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A bit like semi literate.:rolleyes:


I know about Sterling, I read their stuff years ago.
 
I never thought it would happen but great Channa. Just purchased a Kipor IG2000, any idea how good?
 

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