C&MC site at Culloden Moor

[Fisherman]

On Sunday we arrived for three nights at Culloden Moor. Went for a shower on Tuesday to find the attached sign on the toilet door. This sign was also on the ladies toilet. Being unhappy I went the reception to find out what was going on. I was abruptly told the explanation was on the doors. I said I wanted more information the reply was “are you serious” We only use the toilets for showers. One couple turned up in a camper with no toilet paid their dues and only found out when they went to use the toilet. There were a few camper vans and the tent section had 6 tents. This was a punishment exercise, and possibly the culprits had already left. I have emailed them to complain requesting compensation.

 

[antiquesam]

I can see your point, they are charging for facilities and not providing them. I would have thought you should get a refund.

 

[peter palance]

I can see your point, they are charging for facilities and not providing them. I would have thought you should get a refund.

and showed 2 finger, and downed yours, we no longer use them, throw at-it tued, no likey no thanky, keep on running, that is use. ok pj p,s. still with the 3 C. ok

 

[Val54]

Another reason to ditch CMC next time round ........

 

[fiona68]

Was at Culloden, before they opened facilities, when opened on 15th there was only 3 allowed in block at one time. Noticed that people with their own facilities still insisted on using the block, we preferred to use our own. Found that people on Holiday forget that COVID is still a real threat. Will put on my hard hat now xx

 

[izwozral]

Was at Culloden, before they opened facilities, when opened on 15th there was only 3 allowed in block at one time. Noticed that people with their own facilities still insisted on using the block, we preferred to use our own. Found that people on Holiday forget that COVID is still a real threat. Will put on my hard hat now xx

So very true.

 

[mickymost]

Fisherman before I start this post is not aimed at you
Its a weird one but personally If I owned a £60000.00 Motorhome with a shower and toilet onboard then I would be using my own personal Shower and toilet.Especially with the Pandemic hanging over us.We only have a £20000 La Strada Campervan but will still use our own facilities.Same when you go on a site and folks with Brand new or up to date massive motorhomes (and caravans) are using the washing up sinks attached to the toilets.Are they frightened to get their sink dirty? I get one is paying for these facilities but its personal choice whether to spend £35.00 a night (would still use own own facilities) or one could pay £10 for a basic pitch on grass with only one basic toilet and maybe a shower in a Portacabin.) Would still use our own facilities.Including using our Kitchen sink to wash up after we cooked.Yes another one is these guys with these posh Motorhomes but go to restaurants and buy takeaways and wont dirty their cookers.

 

[Fisherman]

Was at Culloden, before they opened facilities, when opened on 15th there was only 3 allowed in block at one time. Noticed that people with their own facilities still insisted on using the block, we preferred to use our own. Found that people on Holiday forget that COVID is still a real threat. Will put on my hard hat now xx

Fiona if you wish to use your facilities fair play to you. But if others chose to use facilities that they are paying for then fair play to them also. We decided only to shower and use our facilities for everything else. I only intended taking two showers in the 3 day visit I only managed one. If the C&MC wish to encourage folk not to use facilities they should consider offering deals. Also I find it hard to believe that what they claim happened applied to both ladies and gents at the one time. And taking payment from someone in a camper without warning them was well out of order.

 

[mickymost]

Fiona if you wish to use your facilities fair play to you. But if others chose to use facilities that they are paying for then fair play to them also. We decided only two shower and use our facilities for everything else. I only intended taking two showers in the 3 day visit I only managed one. If the C&MC wish to encourage folk not to use facilities they should consider offering deals. Also I find it hard to believe that what they claim happened applied to both ladies and gents at the one time. And taking payment from someone in a camper without warning them was well out of order.

Fisherman Bill go down the compensation route.I definately would.You have been misled so in effect they have broke the contract.I feel a full refund should be in order here. Good Luck.

 

[antiquesam]

We were in the Moreton in Marsh site last month and the ablutions seemed very well organised. At the entrance was a tub of Milton's with wrist bands in it. If you wanted to go in you took a band, no band no entry. The site was full but I saw no one cheating.

 

[SquirrellCook]

A little off topic but the point was raised. Even though you have everything in your camper to live, isn’t it nice to do your washing up in public? So many of us are antisocial, let’s not let this virus be an excuse for be even worse. Though it does mean that late night sex parties are best forgotten about.

 

[Fisherman]

Fisherman before I start this post is not aimed at you
Its a weird one but personally If I owned a £60000.00 Motorhome with a shower and toilet onboard then I would be using my own personal Shower and toilet.Especially with the Pandemic hanging over us.We only have a £20000 La Strada Campervan but will still use our own facilities.Same when you go on a site and folks with Brand new or up to date massive motorhomes (and caravans) are using the washing up sinks attached to the toilets.Are they frightened to get their sink dirty? I get one is paying for these facilities but its personal choice whether to spend £35.00 a night (would still use own own facilities) or one could pay £10 for a basic pitch on grass with only one basic toilet and maybe a shower in a Portacabin.) Would still use our own facilities.Including using our Kitchen sink to wash up after we cooked.Yes another one is these guys with these posh Motorhomes but go to restaurants and buy takeaways and wont dirty their cookers.

We used our toilet, washed our dishes, shaved, brushed our teeth in our van. On average you use 30 litres of water having a shower, you can’t do that in a motorhome unless you want to empty your grey water every day and top up your water tank. The fact is you get a much better shower in their showers than in a motorhome. But they had no right to punnish everyone on the site who had paid for these facilities. But that has got nothing to do with paying for something then being denied it what you had paid for.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

I hear from a very reliable inside source that the CMC are having trouble recruiting wardens, and that many existing wardens are choosing to quit.

A lot of wardens have traditionally been retirees who want to keep on keeping busy and are usually caravan or campervan owners themselves.
They don't necessarily need the income so can afford to leave if not happy with the job.

C-19 has made everyone's job more difficult, but when it comes to cleaning public loos and showers with this virus about, folk are probably saying thanks, but no thanks - I'd be a bit wary myself!

Does this mean the CMC are still charging full price, even without the use of showers and toilets? I was under the impression that all their main sites were opening shower and toilet blocks, but usage was limited with a wrist band system like Sam mentioned above. I've also heard that a max of 3 people are allowed into the shower blocks/loos at any one time. Guess that also depends on the size of the facilities at individual sites.

If some aren't opening the facilities and are still charging full price then they wouldn't be getting my custom any time soon! Don't mind paying the money, but I would expect the use of all toilet facilities if that's the case, whether I choose to use them or not.

If they are short of willing staff then this could be a problem that will crop up more frequently. CMC wardens seem to have had a bit of a reputation for the odd ones acting like little Hitlers. Staff shortages could make the 'type' even worse under current circumstances.

Maybe you should write a letter of complaint, Bill, and see if it gets published in their monthly magazine? Somehow I doubt it... !

 

[Wooie1958]

We know a couple have been CC which is now CAMC ( for the pedantic ) wardens for 15 years and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it until now.

They didn`t have to do it or actually need the income but they wanted to do it after selling their business.

A great time was had by them especially on a few occasions when they were asked to go to other sites and cover for sickness etc. etc.

The abuse they`ve took since the sites re-opened has been off the scale and they have now handed their notice in.

The majority of abuse has come from caravanners but there has been plenty from motorhomers as well having been spat at and threatened with violence.

 

[jagmanx]

The threat of covid is affecting people brains
The abuse mentioned in post 14 being just one example.
The trouble is when people feel/are threatened they become more selfish/defensive/aggresive etc
NO EXCUSES

 

[antiquesam]

I believe many of the old school wardens were ex servicemen, police and fire service bringing with them the regime they were used to, but they have recently been recruiting, as Marie and Wooie say, more normal people looking to keep active after early retirement. Someone pointed out to me recently that the C&MC have done very little for its members during this whereas the other mob extended the membership for three months, and have for the last couple of years provided free WiFi as opposed to charging silly sums of money for it.

 

[Fisherman]

I never witnessed any abuse to anyone, but many were angry being treated like children. What I found astounding was we were told this happened in both the ladies and gents, I don’t believe this. I only used the toilets once for a shower in the previous afternoon and I was alone. We used the showers at this time as they were used less in the middle of the day. The toilets were clean. They left one disabled toilet open for everyone to use, surely this would have increased the chance of COVID being spread. When we were leaving next morning folk were queuing for the toilets after they were reopened with signs warning that they were being monitored. Surely this queuing would also have increased the chance of COVID being spread. There was every chance that the person responsible for this had left, and those remaining were being denied what we had paid for. I will insist that everyone staying there is compensated, not just myself. This is not about money, it’s about a simple principle that they seem to have forgotten.

 

[jagmanx]

I believe many of the old school wardens were ex servicemen, police and fire service bringing with them the regime they were used to, but they have recently been recruiting, as Marie and Wooie say, more normal people looking to keep active after early retirement. Someone pointed out to me recently that the C&MC have done very little for its members during this whereas the other mob extended the membership for three months, and have for the last couple of years provided free WiFi as opposed to charging silly sums of money for it.

When Mr Mackay retired from "Slade Open Prison" he applied to be a site warden but failed as he was "too soft" !

 

[mariesnowgoose]

My friends on the 'inside' said the site they had spent lockdown on (they were the only ones on that particular site right the way through lockdown, apart from the full time wardens who were living in the warden's chalet and completely separate) re-opened with a max 3-at-a-time for showers & loos ruling and wristbands issued.

You were supposed to hang your wrist band on the hooks outside the shower block main door. When it got to 3 wrist bands you were supposed to wait until someone came out of the shower block before going in.

Apparently site visitors were taking very little notice of this 'rule' and were just wandering into the showers and loos as per normal.

Personally I think all these rules are slightly insane and vey difficult to enforce or police with the general public, unless you want to employ full time bouncers everywhere!

 

[2cv]

I find that one of the great advantages of having a motorhome after many years tenting is being able to use its facilities. With a little practice a shower can be had using very little water. It also means very little need to meet grumpy warders at club sites. In the present situation it is certainly much safer to use on board facilities.