Motorhome driver has a lucky escape.

mark61 said:
I'm gonna guess the two MH's were having a wee race.

Regardless, the A class is well out of order.
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Are you thinking The A class on the Hard Shoulder was racing the coachbuilt coming down the sliproad? Could he actually see the other one through the bridge support?
 
st3v3 said:
The camper was within the law undertaking slow moving traffic.

The black VW crossed the chevron and pushed the MH over to the right.
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Steve as I did look again he was not within the Law and is in fact driving like a moron.
 
Well, before that I did say "I think you lot better watch the vid again. "

No, don't think they could see each other before the A class undertook HGV, could have been on phone though. Was only a guess, I wouldn't have hanged anyone on it :)
At first viewing seemed the other coach built wasn't hanging around either, but watching again probably an ok speed.
The A class is a prize wally though.
 
Ok. Just scrutinized it again. Is this a "Smart" motorway issue? The motorhome looks to be on the hard shoulder (or live lane when it goes Smart) and is shifting a bit. Should the video poster have also been in that lane unless he was overtaking? It looks like a case of the motorhome didnt want to have the car to his left, merge into the traffic.
See a lot of this on the M6 around J10. When the hard shoulder is supposed to be part of the live lanes, very few use it so it becomes almost a private lane. re, lots of under taking.
 
myvanwy said:
Ok. Just scrutinized it again. Is this a "Smart" motorway issue? The motorhome looks to be on the hard shoulder (or live lane when it goes Smart) and is shifting a bit. Should the video poster have also been in that lane unless he was overtaking? It looks like a case of the motorhome didnt want to have the car to his left, merge into the traffic.
See a lot of this on the M6 around J10. When the hard shoulder is supposed to be part of the live lanes, very few use it so it becomes almost a private lane. re, lots of under taking.
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At that point between Junction 29 Bamber Bridge and Junction 30 where the M61 joins the M6 Northbound it is a hard shoulder only.
 
mickymost said:
Wooie you said there is four lanes and you helped to widen that section? I can only see 3 lanes and a Hard Shoulder on your picture.Are you saying the hard shoulder he was on is now a permanent live lane as going by the road surface colour I dont think anyone should be driving on that.?
If the Hard Shoulder is not a live lane then yes looking again he is tanking it down the Hard Shoulder I thought originally he was coming down that slip Road.Shows how one can be wrong.Well that definately deserves an instant ban.Wonder if the Police have issued any update on what action they took against the driver of that A Class.
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It becomes 4 lanes immediately after the bridge where the other road ( M61) joins the M6, up until that point it is 3 lanes.

The screenshot is looking back at the junction and you can see the bridge in question in the distance.

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From Junction 21A, M6/M62E Manchester the M6 is 3 lanes all the way up to Junction 30 M61 when it then becomes 4 lanes past Preston.

This is where the incident happened.

I really don`t know how i can make it any clearer.

The motorhome was being driven by a cnut up the hard shoulder clearly wanting to get past the HGV in very heavy traffic which it regularly is there.
 
Larnie said:
It looks like the Pilote Motorhome is coming up to the junction on the hard shoulder and then onto the chevrons on 5e entry slip. The black polo has just enter the motorway even if he had just pulled out the Motorhome was in the wrong.
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You do not pull out from left if path is not clear to do so,its a give way.
 
IMHO 2 wrongs and all that; black car pulling across the hatching no1 error and no2 the A class going to fast to merge with the traffic to his right, Then pulling left instead of slowing down.
 
Harryw said:
IMHO 2 wrongs and all that; black car pulling across the hatching no1 error and no2 the A class going to fast to merge with the traffic to his right, Then pulling left instead of slowing down.
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Should have said pulling right, haven’t worked out how to edited my own posts yet!
 
trevskoda said:
You do not pull out from left if path is not clear to do so,its a give way.
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He probably didn’t expect the Motorhome to be bombing down the hard shoulder / chevrons. That’s why I hate motorways, people do just pull out as they think they have a right to.
 
After watching that video several times, I think it's clear that the car was in the wrong, pulling across the chevrons, forcing the motorhome to take evasive action.
The motorhome was not driving specially carefully, but it was driving legally. The car was driving illegally.
 
Black car crossed a solid line hatched area - illegal. Making this unexpected illegal manouverve caught the MH driver out
Joining traffic has to give way, ( I know, no one does nowadays)
MH was going way too fast for such a busy junction.

I also note the still image shows a MH about to drive in to the side of a car !!

Interesting even with the video vigilante footage (how many cams did Barrie have in his car!) we have 10 different verdicts (11 now) of what happened 😆
I like the MHs racing each other the best
 
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Having watched the video a few times I think the MH driver was in the wrong, looked like he was speeding and coming along the hard shoulder, then the black car cuts across the chevrons.
 
Can you give us the time on the vid, the black car cuts the chevrons.
 
I give up !

The motorhome was clearly driving up the hard shoulder to get past the HGV.

All the following are North up which is the way the vehicles were traveling

1, Shows the M6 ( newer darker tarmc ) is 3 lanes with a hard shoulder ( lighter in colour ) and the bridge crossing it, the 2 lanes on the left are from the M61 which joins it at that point and the black car was traveling on that slip road.

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The following screenshots are a progression of the M6 going Northwards and shows that the 2 lanes on the left ( from the M61 ) and the fact that the right hand lane of them becomes the 4th lane of the M6 so you have right of way if in that lane and you just stay in lane

There are now arrows on road telling you this although the majority of people do not have a clue what the fcuk they mean.

The left hand lane of the 2 lanes of the left is a slip road and filters in to what is then the extra 4th lane on the M6.

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