Travellers set up camp near Blackpool.

[Mobilvetta]

Well I'm sad to report that a group of travelers have set up camp at one of the places Fylde council allows motorhomes to park up overnight for a small fee in St Annes, over the bank holiday.

The council officers visited the carpark and told them they have to vacate within 24 hours, which they failed to do, the police were then called and they escorted them off the carpark, only for them to set up at another carpark on the promenade less than a mile away.

I hope Fylde council don't take action because of this and introduce height barrier's, it's a lovely place been right by the beach, it would be a shame to loose it because of a selfish few, who don't think the law applys to them, please note DominicCummings was not amongst them, but I believe he is to make a statement on there behalf later today.

 

[Mobilvetta]

Travellers pitch camp at beach front car parks in St Annes

Travellers have set up camp at a number of beach front car parks in St Annes over the bank holiday weekend.

www.lythamstannesexpress.co.uk

 

[runnach]

I thought under lockdown terms, councils were not supposed to move travellers on ? The competence of Fylde council

 

[jagmanx]

Where have they come from and why ?
As Andrew post no 3. Not a good idea to move them on and as he posts wrong !
I am not a supporter of travellrs but they have to camp somewhere..I understood councils should / must make provision
Toilets etc and in normal circunstances schooling !

 

[Asterix]

I thought under lockdown terms, councils were not supposed to move travellers on ? The competence of Fylde council

That's correct,so they should have remained wherever they were at the beginning of lockdown. This is a clear breach of the rules and they should have the book thrown at them,there's any number of fulltimers that have stayed in place.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Always a thorny problem.

We don't know the full story behind this particular encampment so shouldn't jump to any conclusions.

It's quite likely that their needs haven't been catered for - they weren't even before lockdown, and lockdown hasn't made things easy for anybody, let alone travelling folk.

On the other hand they could just be sticking two fingers up.

Let's hope they manage to settle it quickly and without too much damage either way.

 

[antiquesam]

They've just set up camp on Southsea Common. They will take days to move on. When President Trump came, to mess up the D Day celebrations, they managed to move them within the hour, but that was with the help of the US Secret Service.

 

[Mobilvetta]

Always a thorny problem.

We don't know the full story behind this particular encampment so shouldn't jump to any conclusions.

It's quite likely that their needs haven't been catered for - they weren't even before lockdown, and lockdown hasn't made things easy for anybody, let alone travelling folk.

On the other hand they could just be sticking two fingers up.

Let's hope they manage to settle it quickly and without too much damage either way.

I would agree if it wasn't for the fact it was a bank holiday when quite a number of travellers traditionally tend to visit the Blackpool area, no point us and others following the rules for a certain group to spoil them, they should have remained were they were before lockdown when councils were told not to move them on and to cater for there needs, obviously deciding to come and stay by the coast for the weekend was not the right decision, this reflects on us all as unfortunately, we all get tarred with the same brush.

There will be more moans when council introduce more barriers to try and stop travellers camping on there carparks knowing that some have no respect and leave them in a right mess, with rubbish an human and dog excrement left everywhere, as was seen last year when a few travellers camped at Gynn Square carpark in Blackpool, which is another carpark were motorhomes can stay overnight for a small fee.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

It's a problem as old as the hills.

The culture clash is a right conundrum. There is no doubt that local councils could do a lot more to provide proper stopping points and safe places to stay for travellers.

But there's no denying it will make no difference whatsoever to a proportion of those travellers.
They will defy any laws, regardless of where they are or why they are needed.

Hmm. Wonder if Cummings has any romany in his bloodline?

 

[Asterix]

The Bournemouth paper in the last week has had two stories on Motorhomes overnighting in council carparks,they were moved on immediately and fined £70. Also last week,travellers moved on to council land and as far as I'm aware are still there,it really shits me that rules aren't enforced equally,I can almost guarantee they won't receive fines,but if I did it they'd be on me like a Rottweiler with a bone.

 

[Deleted member 64209]

As someone who was systematically robbed and pillaged by 'travellers' in more than one location to such an extent I left the UK something like this might be the answer... if you've not had a proper full on taste of it you've no idea what it's like...

 

[RichardHelen262]

The Bournemouth paper in the last week has had two stories on Motorhomes overnighting in council carparks,they were moved on immediately and fined £70. Also last week,travellers moved on to council land and as far as I'm aware are still there,it really shits me that rules aren't enforced equally,I can almost guarantee they won't receive fines,but if I did it they'd be on me like a Rottweiler with a bone.

law abiding people are always the first to be punished

 

[GreggBear]

As has been pointed out, they were obviously somewhere else all through lockdown, how can they now be protected by "don't move them on" rules?
Sticking up for their rights in this instance is not productive, they should be fined the same as you & I. We all want to go to the coast etc, but we don't, why then argue for the rights of people who disregard the rules....

 

[runnach]

That's correct,so they should have remained wherever they were at the beginning of lockdown. This is a clear breach of the rules and they should have the book thrown at them,there's any number of fulltimers that have stayed in place.

My point is it is councils that are misplacing them not the travellers ignoring the rules

 

[maingate]

Somebody should write an angry letter to the Council.

 

[Asterix]

My point is it is councils that are misplacing them not the travellers ignoring the rules

The lockdown rules came into effect around eight weeks ago,for travellers that meant,stay where you are and services will be provided,those rules haven't changed. How can these people not be ignoring the rules if they've just turned up?

 

[jagmanx]

Travellers are a bit like MPs...
They do what they like.
AND manage to avoid censure...remember the expenses scandal !
I say remember but it continues..!

 

[runnach]

I would agree if it wasn't for the fact it was a bank holiday when quite a number of travellers traditionally tend to visit the Blackpool area, no point us and others following the rules for a certain group to spoil them, they should have remained were they were before lockdown when councils were told not to move them on and to cater for there needs, obviously deciding to come and stay by the coast for the weekend was not the right decision, this reflects on us all as unfortunately, we all get tarred with the same brush.

There will be more moans when council introduce more barriers to try and stop travellers camping on there carparks knowing that some have no respect and leave them in a right mess, with rubbish an human and dog excrement left everywhere, as was seen last year when a few travellers camped at Gynn Square carpark in Blackpool, which is another carpark were motorhomes can stay overnight for a small fee.

In your first post you state the council with police help shifted them on where they have settled in another car park owned by the same council it sounds like (Fylde)

I will say it again the council should not have moved them on in the first place had they followed government guidance

Councils for years prior to covid haven’t fulfilled their obligations to provide pitches temporary or otherwise to travellers

Covid has purely brought a problem home to roost

 

[Deleted member 64209]

My point is it is councils that are misplacing them not the travellers ignoring the rules

The 'Travellers' have only their own 'rules' one of them being 'what's yours is ours' another rhymes with 'duck the lot of you', plenty of rules broken here... and guess who pays to sort it out every single [ever-increasing] time?

 

[Asterix]

In your first post you state the council with police help shifted them on where they have settled in another car park owned by the same council it sounds like (Fylde)

I will say it again the council should not have moved them on in the first place had they followed government guidance

Councils for years prior to covid haven’t fulfilled their obligations to provide pitches temporary or otherwise to travellers

Covid has purely brought a problem home to roost

The story states that they turned up over the weekend,were moved on and settled themselves in another car park,the council were right to move them on as the rules state they should be wherever they were at the start of lockdown. They should be facing charges for breaking lockdown rules,they should have been directed back to wherever they came from originally.