Schengen Travel & Spanish Residency

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So we have Spanish residencia but are of course still British citizens with British passport . How does it work if we wish to visit other Schengen countries like Portugal ?

Eg , say we do 6 months in Spain then want to go to Portugal for a month will that be technically allowed , I know that in practice without a border control no one will probably know unless we have a problem ?

Would be interested to know or receive any views .

Many Thanks
 
As you entitled to live in Spain with zero restriction or time limit
In theory you should get 3 months in Schengen but outside of Spain..BUT who know.
One of the many glitches that will get sorted eventually !
 
Thanks jagmanx thats what I assumed and hoped for . Being devils advocate I was wondering if Portugal could say "Ah you are a citizen from a non schengen country and you have been in the schengen area for more than 90 days so you cant come in" ! I know probably more theoretical than practical but interested just the same . Maybe there are some members on here who are schengen country residents but come from a non schengen non EU country ?
 
It could also be argued that with Spanish residencia you are already in Schengen and therefore unlimited !
Depends on whether passport overules residence or vice-versa..

More money for lawyers ?????
 
I would think that your nationality will take precedence over residency. If anything bad were to happen to you the British embassy/consulate would be first point of contact
 
Yes , I have thought that too so as far as the Portugese are concerned I am British so must abide by Schengen rules and not come until I have returned to the UK for 3 months ?
 
The same would apply to France !
Thus you cannot drive your camper back to UK via France ! ( having been in Spain for x months)

PS I guess for now and early 2021 you will be OK as I think the 1st 3 month will only begin on Jan1st 2021 (or the day before)
So the powers that be have several months to sort it
Do NOT hold your breath !
 
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I think after Covid they will possibly change the rules as they will lose a lot of tourism as it is with the restrictions on flights (social distancing), and people not wanting to fly, which the economy relies on.
 
Following with interest as we are in same position in Portugal! Keep checking but nobody seems to know/ care about this situation. Only those permanently in an EU Schengen country.
 
Don't know the answer, but the rules on this will already exist, ask the nearest Russian nabour, they should know.
 
yorkieowl said:
I think after Covid they will possibly change the rules as they will lose a lot of tourism as it is with the restrictions on flights (social distancing), and people not wanting to fly, which the economy relies on.
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Can't see the rules changing at all. The 90 day rule does not affect your average tourist.The few Brits who long term in Europe in vans are inconsequential in the scheme of things and not on their radar.
 
jacquigem said:
So we have Spanish residencia but are of course still British citizens with British passport . How does it work if we wish to visit other Schengen countries like Portugal ?

Eg , say we do 6 months in Spain then want to go to Portugal for a month will that be technically allowed , I know that in practice without a border control no one will probably know unless we have a problem ?

Would be interested to know or receive any views .

Many Thanks
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Where is your primary residence. UK or Spain.
 
We live in France having moved from the UK a couple of years ago and are French residents. As we are not yet French Nationals, as far as I can make out we are subject to the Schengen rules as they apply to UK citizens.
If we take up French Citizenship, we will not be subject to the 90 day limit.
 
Fazerloz said:
Where is your primary residence. UK or Spain.
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Well now we have taken Spanish resisancy I think it has to be Spain ........... but I could be pursuaded to be flexible . Just wanted to guarantee more than 3 months in Europe at a time . I like to try and be legal if I can.
 
colinmd said:
Don't know the answer, but the rules on this will already exist, ask the nearest Russian nabour, they should know.
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Sorry dont know any Russian neighbours and actually dont think I have met any on my travels , but I know what you mean. I think there are still a lot of illegals in Spain who dont go home andtry and keep their noses clean .
 
jagmanx said:
The same would apply to France !
Thus you cannot drive your camper back to UK via France ! ( having been in Spain for x months)

PS I guess for now and early 2021 you will be OK as I think the 1st 3 month will only begin on Jan1st 2021 (or the day before)
So the powers that be have several months to sort it
Do NOT hold your breath !
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That is a really good point , guess I might just have to drive fast. Anyway at least I am trying to be legal . I guess when coming back I will only get caught at British customs at Dover ? Remains to be seen if Boris's mob will want to fine me or lock me up !
 
kenspain said:
I got residents in Spain and Portugal but it took me some time to get it I live in Portugal 5 months of the year the rest in Spain.
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I am thinking that unless they introduce border controls between Spain and Portugal it should be quite easy to flit between the two . Are you still on British Passport ?
 
REC said:
Following with interest as we are in same position in Portugal! Keep checking but nobody seems to know/ care about this situation. Only those permanently in an EU Schengen country.
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jacquigem said:
I am thinking that unless they introduce border controls between Spain and Portugal it should be quite easy to flit between the two . Are you still on British Passport ?
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I never take my passport with me all I show if asked is my resident card never had any problems with that been stopped once when I went into Portugal and they excepted it
 
Will Schengen still exist? What controls will exist to monitor coming and going? What level of enforcement will there be? Like so much it is all up in the air.
 
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