Schengen Travel & Spanish Residency

Perhaps we should join the oligarchs and buy ourselves Maltese passport. I think you just need to stay a few months and give the government a few hundred thousand euros.
 
Snapster said:
Schengen will exist whatever happens and there will be no change to the Schengen regulations, the only difference will be that UK passport holders will be treated differently ( Third Country Nationals) unless the UK government manages to work out some separate agreement, which I doubt.
You may care to read all about the Schengen Regulations in the link below to answer your questions. Make yourself a cuppa and choose a comfy chair!

I have posted a link below which will let you read the whole of the latest Schengen Regulations
Article 6 is the closest answer I can find to your question, but it’s not as clear as I would like. I’d be interested to see what you make of it?

EUR-Lex - 32016R0399 - EN - EUR-Lex

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Hi have read this but at this late hour my head is in danger of exploding! However, my take is that I qualify under section 1 ( article 6) to all the conditions and don't need an extended Schengen visa as we have resident permit. Then section 2 states clearly
"Periods of stay authorised under a residence permit or a long-stay visa shall not be taken into account in the calculation of the duration of stay on the territory of the Member States." Which I take to mean that we would be limited to 90 days in Schengen zone but can stay as long as allowed with our residency in Portugal. How one would prove how long stayed in Portugal and how long in rest of area will be debatable, would assume till receipts from arrival and before leaving Portugal.
And if one doesn't fulfill all of section 1, it is still permitted to transit through Schengen zone to get to place where residency held.
 
REC said:
Hi have read this but at this late hour my head is in danger of exploding! However, my take is that I qualify under section 1 ( article 6) to all the conditions and don't need an extended Schengen visa as we have resident permit. Then section 2 states clearly
"Periods of stay authorised under a residence permit or a long-stay visa shall not be taken into account in the calculation of the duration of stay on the territory of the Member States." Which I take to mean that we would be limited to 90 days in Schengen zone but can stay as long as allowed with our residency in Portugal. How one would prove how long stayed in Portugal and how long in rest of area will be debatable, would assume till receipts from arrival and before leaving Portugal.
And if one doesn't fulfill all of section 1, it is still permitted to transit through Schengen zone to get to place where residency held.
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Yes Ruth..
It would seem You (Portugal)
& @jacquigem (Spain) will be fine
and able to travel freely including to & from UK
Just make sure you have your residence docs and insist they are looked at !
The World (well Schengen) is your Oyster. (or Lobster if you remember George Cole as Arthur Daly - Minder)
 
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You could buy a cheep home in donegal and get a irish pp letting you roam europe.
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Yes ! When we toured I noticed many lovely properties..Not just Donegal but also further south ! No jobs BUT Hey-Ho I am retired !
Not necessarily a guarantee as ROI is non-Schengen.
As I have posted before ..So MANY layers...Not sure I have enough umbrellas (no good wind) or raincoats
 
REC said:
Hi have read this but at this late hour my head is in danger of exploding! However, my take is that I qualify under section 1 ( article 6) to all the conditions and don't need an extended Schengen visa as we have resident permit. Then section 2 states clearly
"Periods of stay authorised under a residence permit or a long-stay visa shall not be taken into account in the calculation of the duration of stay on the territory of the Member States." Which I take to mean that we would be limited to 90 days in Schengen zone but can stay as long as allowed with our residency in Portugal. How one would prove how long stayed in Portugal and how long in rest of area will be debatable, would assume till receipts from arrival and before leaving Portugal.
And if one doesn't fulfill all of section 1, it is still permitted to transit through Schengen zone to get to place where residency held.
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Your right, it isn’t really clear and obviously open to interpretation, which it shouldn’t be.
My interpretation is that if you are a U.K. passport holder, and a residence permit holder issued by a Schengen country, you are still subject to the 90 day rule if you travel outside your country of residence.
Visitors that need a visa to visit the Schengen area are allowed to stay for the 90 days and the rules state that if you have a residence permit and are from a Third Country, the permit acts the same as a visa when you travel outside your home country.
Probably!
I’m really no further forward with this than you are and I have yet to find anything that makes this clear.
 
That seems to imply you can go from say Spain to France for 90 days!
Or Spain via France towards UK 1 month.Then exit Schengen
Then still 2 months left to re-enter France to drive to Spain

Maybe read Portugal for Spain as well !
Time in country of residence is not counted !
 
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