Wetherby Old Stastion Car Park BEWARE NASTY RESIDENT so watch out

[mickymost]

We were in Wetherby Yesterday in the Old Station Car Park in Linton Road which is free minding our own business and we had stopped here succesfully last year.We had been around the town and had a great day and had come back to the Motorhome for a chill intending to stopover.The car park is well lit and has CCTV.We were just parked longways to the left of the entrance as you enter out of the general way of main people parking inside a small wooden railing by the wall well out of anyones way so as not to be annoying.At 7.30pm a Red Vauxhall Astra reg no AP57WGK pulled in and unbelivably sueezed in to a space in front of us which I never believed a car would fit intn the first attempt he nearly hit the wooden low railings and took them out so he pulled out and squuezed in again in effect blocking out forwards exit which I had left just enough room being a wild camper to exit in case of any trouble on the stopover (as you do).As he got out of the car he walked past us laughing and staring so my wife opened the window to find out what his problem was and asking him to move.He immediately replied that the car park is residents only and we shouldnt be there.He then left and after a few minutes returned with a phone and started to take pictures of us.I exited the van at this stage as my blood was staring to boil and decided two can play at this game and proceded to take his pictures too.My wife followed me and took pictures of his car just incase he thought he could claim we had damaged it.I asked him to show me the residents only signs which he couldnt so clear bull poo and then he himself became more agitated and told us would we like him to park outside our house.?This is a COUNCIL OWNED AND RUN CAR PARK which I put him in his place with.Then he claimed he was a blue badge holder and took it out of his car and shoved it in my face and told me to **** OFF (sorry his words not mine)I dont swear in these situations as once one does one starts to loose the argument.He then told me that if it had been three months ago he would have punched and bounced me around the car park mmmmmm?So Clearly by his movements etc he wasnt disabled as he quite easily ran up the steps to his house to get his phone then quite easily walked up and down the car park to hassle us.What also was annoying was in the middle of this one of our travelling Cats a house cat who never goes outside at home escaped from our motorhome as in the situation and panic my Wife didnt shut the camper door properly so we also had to chase her around the car park with moving vehicles and thankfully got her back.So I just want to say its sooo annoying that people like this clearly an abuser of the BLUE BADGE SCHEME gets benefits and the use of that badge when there are more deserving people in the country that needs the road spaces he is using when driving about and what gives him the right to verbally abuse Council car park users.Yes I know I own a motorhome but do respect where I attempt to park for a stopover and if it had been a residents only car park I clearly wouldnt have attemted to stopover.
I have reported him to the council to investigate a misuse of benefits and the blue badge scheme

Upset we left cut our holiday short and came home




So Forum members Beware if you park in here in the future

Michael

 

[The laird]

Is there no numbers etc on the blue badge that you can report this abuse you received from this agile card holder who threatened you?
This would maybe restrict him from doing this again ?

 

[mistericeman]

Leaving aside the obviously rather unpleasant behaviour of the chap with the blue badge....

The assumption that you need to have a visually obvious disability to hold a blue badge is a 'interesting' concept that some people have.

 

[mickymost]

The laird Gordon thank you for your kind reply,
well he shoved it in my face and it clearly had his face on it but obviously it was too quick for me to gain details from it i/e the badge number .In hindsight I should have taken a picture of it on his car dash once he eventually left us but in the moment and my wife being distraught and quicky packing up the motorhome to leave I didnt do this .As I said we were going to cheekily stay just for one night as we did last year.I have his registration number on my phone on a picture and have many pictures of him.So I have submitted an email to the council with his registration number and his car details and his approximate house address so they should trace him from this and told the council to check their CCTV for evidence and hopefully all this should be on that CCTV images which follows one around that car park as I have seen then cameras follow me and other cars as they enter and leave.Believe me The Laird we are quiet reserved people and DONT go out of our way to intentially upset others as my wife hates conflict BUT once riled Im sorry but will attempt to defend us as you have to..I get he lives there but as I asked him ***so do you own this car park then**He never made any attempt to start on other parking people getting ther bikes out to use the old train track cycleway but thought it was OK to pick on us!


again thank you


Michael

 

[mickymost]

Leaving aside the obviously rather unpleasant behaviour of the chap with the blue badge....

The assumption that you need to have a visually obvious disability to hold a blue badge is a 'interesting' concept that some people have.

I was going on the criteria to obtain a Blue Badge on the Council website BEFORE I sent my report in an email to them,so do you care to enlighten me what other unvisuall illness one can have to get one.This Guy was fit and able and obviously is abusing the system.

 

[mickymost]

*If you are disabled you can apply for a Blue Badge to help you park close to your destination.* Quoted from the council website.He didnt park close to his house but purpously parked in front of us with a clear long walk to get home.I told him why has he done this if he is disabled (which he wasnt)As there was parking spaces a long way from us near the steps to his house,which he chose not to use and chose to block us in and annoy us.

 

[mickymost]

1.have a severe disability affecting both arms, drive regularly and find it difficult to use all or some types of parking meters
2.have a permanent and substantial disability that causes inability to walk or very considerable difficulty in walking

criteria quoted from the council website to gain a blue badge the only other one which maybe he had was a terminal illness and if this is the case he shouldnt be hassling people and should be getting on with the little life he has left.He was about 50 fit as a fiddle in appearance easily mobile witnessed by us SO AS I STATED BEFORE a clear abuser of the scheme.

 

[roamingman]

Just because you can not see a disability, does not mean he does not have one, my Wife's cousin looked fit but when asked he would pull up his shirt and show the scar he had, from neck to belly.

 

[mickymost]

I can see various forum members will and dont agree with me on the disability point and each to their own opininion BUT would a normal supposedly disabled person with some thing wrong with them find the energy and time to hassle someone else who is minding their own business quitely parked out of the way trying not to upset anyone?I reported him to the council as he ruined the last part of our mini holiday which as my wife works hard at the NHS she needed.If they investigate which hopefully they will and find out he is genuinly disabled then fair enough BUT there are too many scammers in the country geting away with murder etc and hard working honest tax paying people are paying for these scammers actions.

michael

 

[Deleted member 56601]

A persons disability can be affected by many different factors such as medication, temperature etc. The pain severity can also vary greatly and affect the persons ability to walk.
Perhaps the NHS would be able to reduce their costs if they had people who could perform an instant diagnosis based on a meeting in a car park?

 

[mistericeman]

A persons disability can be affected by many different factors such as medication, temperature etc. The pain severity can also vary greatly and affect the persons ability to walk.
Perhaps the NHS would be able to reduce their costs if they had people who could perform an instant diagnosis based on a meeting in a car park?

Sadly its a very blinkered AND black and white world for some folks.
Disability assessment is an extremely complex world and one that sadly the experts don't always get right.

As you say maybe instant assessments in car parks are the future.
As for the comments regarding someone with a terminal illness...

 

[barryd]

Im with the OP. Report this thuggish moron and I am a blue badge holder. You will need to contact North yorks Blue badge dept Blue badge parking permits for disabled people | North Yorkshire County Council

He may be genuinely disabled in some way but who cares? He might not be and the guy deserves a bit of hassle at the least seeing as how he treated you and ruined the end of your holiday.

Its one thing that makes my blood boil in this country the NIMBY attitude and often threatening territorial behaviour. Its not his car park so why doesn't he Just Fcuk right off instead? Its another reason why when wilding in the UK I park miles from anywhere if possible or just head over the channel.

 

[maureenandtom]

So far as I know ...

ALL conditions justifying the issue of a blue badge (except one) require you to have some difficulty with mobility. There are, I understand, proposals to extend the eligibility to include, for example, mental health problems but these have not yet been approved.

The one exception to a physical mobility problem is that the blind are also eligible. I guess that their mobility problem is equal to a physical mobility problem in that they need guidance and are effectivley immobile without that assistance.

Misuse of blue badges is, reportedly, a great problem. Mickey is right to report what seems to be abuse of the system.

 

[Deleted member 71750]

I dont see what difference holding a blue badge or not makes. Unless having a blue badge entitles one to be abusive and threatening to another person who was minding their own business ! Pointless arguing with the likes of him, I would have called the police saying he was making threats of physical violence as well as stopping you leaving the scene by blocking you in.
Yes, I would have been sorely tempted to sort him out but unfortunately the law would then be on his side.

 

[mickymost]

Im with the OP. Report this thuggish moron and I am a blue badge holder. You will need to contact North yorks Blue badge dept Blue badge parking permits for disabled people | North Yorkshire County Council

He may be genuinely disabled in some way but who cares? He might not be and the guy deserves a bit of hassle at the least seeing as how he treated you and ruined the end of your holiday.

Its one thing that makes my blood boil in this country the NIMBY attitude and often threatening territorial behaviour. Its not his car park so why doesn't he Just Fcuk right off instead? Its another reason why when wilding in the UK I park miles from anywhere if possible or just head over the channel.

Thank you barryd at least you and only a few others i/e thank you the Laird Gordon seem to see where I am coming from on this thread.I am not having a dig at the genuine Blue Badge holder who needs support and be able to park nearer to facilities to help them in their lives.On this day yesterday as I have said we were minding our own business and RED ASTRA CAR MAN chose to give us grief.There was a massive area near to the residents steps who live on that road backing onto that car park where he could have easily placed his car.But no as I said he tightly squeezed it in front of us nearly taking out the fence on the first attempt showing how angry he was to see us parked there.And it was a fair distance from his house/flat (i dont know house flat obviously).The car park only has signs on it to advise not to drop litter and while there we witnessed the boy racer youth driving in playing loud music then leaving and a pile of rubbish came out their side door as they departed.We put all our rubbish in the bin AND picked up the beer pop can etc that they left.This was a long way before RED ASTRA MAN pulled in.

The mention of a terminal illness mistericeman was only quoted from the council criteria website and wasnt said by me to be below the belt and to offend anyone in that position it was just the only option I could see on the council website that this OIK could be under that heading to get that BLUE BADGE all other points on qualifying for a Blue Badge on there relate to limited movement in a person which this person obviously didnt suffer from.

Once we had left he would clearly be overjoyed thinking that he had forced us out but living there he should clearly know all his movements were being recorded on CCTV so maybe he has done himself out of that Badge mmm up to the council to look into.

But as I have said he doesnt own all the territory around where he lives and needs to learn to leave other people alone as he clearly had a hate for motorhomes and I posted this thread Just to warn the other fellow forum members to be careful if thay go there to park


Michael

 

[Deleted member 74361]

]I dont see what difference holding a blue badge or not makes. Unless having a blue badge entitles one to be abusive and threatening to another person who was minding their own business [/B]! Pointless arguing with the likes of him, I would have called the police saying he was making threats of physical violence as well as stopping you leaving the scene by blocking you in.
Yes, I would have been sorely tempted to sort him out but unfortunately the law would then be on his side.

I agree.

It might have been better if the OP had not mentioned the Blue Badge element, as it has distracted from the initial bad behaviour.

Geoff

 

[mickymost]

I agree.

It might have been better if the OP had not mentioned the Blue Badge element, as it has distracted from the initial bad behaviour.

Geoff

Geoff sorry have you read the post properly as you are missing the point clearly

Once he realised that blocking us in and not getting anywhere HE CHOSE to bring up the point of the blue badge.He didnt have to even bring the subject up but in my opinion was trying to use this as justification to putting his car there in front of us.As I have already said there was more than enough space to park near where he lived ( again on the council car park not his land).I mentioned about the badge and reporting him because he shoved it in my face and then told me to **** Off is that reasonable behaviour againt someone minding their own business.

 

[mickymost]

Sadly its a very blinkered AND black and white world for some folks.
Disability assessment is an extremely complex world and one that sadly the experts don't always get right.

As you say maybe instant assessments in car parks are the future.
As for the comments regarding someone with a terminal illness...

Yes on that point mistericeman I agree there are many who clearly need help BUT dont get it when its deserved,BUT this fellow after trying to intimidate us by parking tight on my van resorted to using the Blue Badge option for justifying his actions to park where he had parked.EVEN THOUGH he had not put his car anywhere near where he lived.You obviously think I am having a dig at the unfortunate people in the world which I am not!

 

[Deleted member 5816]

Could it be it is his wife or some other family member who has the disability. Try using the othe car park near the river bridge we use that one regularly but there is no overnight stay there.

Alf

1.have a severe disability affecting both arms, drive regularly and find it difficult to use all or some types of parking meters
2.have a permanent and substantial disability that causes inability to walk or very considerable difficulty in walking

criteria quoted from the council website to gain a blue badge the only other one which maybe he had was a terminal illness and if this is the case he shouldnt be hassling people and should be getting on with the little life he has left.He was about 50 fit as a fiddle in appearance easily mobile witnessed by us SO AS I STATED BEFORE a clear abuser of the scheme.

 

[mickymost]

Could it be it is his wife or some other family member who has the disability. Try using the othe car park near the river bridge we use that one regularly but there is no overnight stay there.

Alf

Could be ALF but he never mentioned anything about a wife or other family member and HIS PHOTO was on the badge so it must be for him.Surely if it was for a wife or another family member then their picture would have been on the badge would it not?The car park by the bridge was rammed full yes we did look when arriving in Wetherby and rechecked when we walked into town


Michael