Wild camping on Arran & Islay

The road surface to Fionnphort i find is truly awful,coupled with quite heavy traffic considering,especially in the summer when there are coaches racing backwards and forwards to Iona.Another gripe is the lack of places to pull off the road and take a photo or admire the view with the result that people use the passing places which in turn pees off the locals(rightly so) but these people are on holiday and would like a photo momento of a place they may never see again.They could and should be doing so much more.

The lack of cwp's is as you say pretty poor.On Shetland all the harbours are motorhome friendly with hook ups and emptying points and you can use their showers.Great set up over there.

The Lomond to Tarbet section is awful,nearly lost the back of a caravan to a logging truck ,the drivers of which take no prisoners

Hi Jeff, it’s not Motorhomes that are causing the problems on the islands it’s simply due to RET the amount of cars has increased. On average when we travel to Arran there are about two or three Motorhomes and around 80 cars. But yes the road to Fionnphort was poor last time I used it.
 
Hi Jeff, it’s not Motorhomes that are causing the problems on the islands it’s simply due to RET the amount of cars has increased. On average when we travel to Arran there are about two or three Motorhomes and around 80 cars. But yes the road to Fionnphort was poor last time I used it.

Yeah i can understand it,in the past people would have come over as a foot passenger but now use their car.Wonder if the bus company that runs all the tours has taken a massive hit.

We used to see the locals go over as foot passengers with their wheeled luggage to shop at Aldi ect,now they can use their own cars.Since the cost of deliveries has decreased,has the food costs gone down?,,,Doubt it but you never know
 
The toilets at Sannox are now locked because of Motorhomes emptying toilet cassettes and the locals are very nimby. I think the toilets are closed at Blackwater foot also. It’s a shame as it used to be a nice wee island. I thinks it’s because it’s only a wee place and doesn’t take a lot of vans to make it look busy.

In 2017 all nine public toilets on Arran were closed by the council in an attempt to save £35,000 a year maintaining them. To my knowledge the toilets at whiting bay, blackwaterfoot, Lochranza, and Brodick were taken over and reopened by the locals. The chemical waste points at whiting bay and blackwaterfoot are to this day still being maintained by the council and are available for use.

I don’t think the toilets at Sannox have been available since closure in 2017, I may be wrong there, but I pretty sure I am right.

Here’s an article on the situation


Views but no loos: Closure of public toilets is putting a strain on island life
By David Ross
Views but no loos: Closure of public toilets is putting a strain on island life
Views but no loos: Closure of public toilets is putting a strain on island life
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IT is one of Scotland’s most popular tourist destinations and welcomes around a million visitors every year.

But the island of Arran is facing a looming crisis during this year’s peak tourist season because of the closure of all the public toilets, forcing visitors to use those in local businesses.

North Ayrshire Council recently announced it would close all Arran’s nine public loos to save £35,000 a year.

Now an online petition with approaching 2,000 signatures has been set up to reverse the decision which has left many visitors no choice but to use local pubs, hotels and cafes which is causing severe disruption to customers and owners.


Barbara Crawford who runs the Kinloch Hotel in Blackwaterfoot, on the west side of Arran said the hotel’s footfall had increased dramatically, without any corresponding increase in business: She said: “The public toilets are now padlocked in the village, and the only places for the public to go here is our hotel and the golf course. But all the tour buses stop outside the hotel and they are now coming in to use our toilets. The number using them is now unbelievable: families, young people, all sorts.

“We certainly had over 100 at Easter weekend. You don’t want to refuse them, but they don’t ask anyway. We phoned the council and they said just to tell them not to use them. It’s terrible. This is supposed to be a holiday island.”

Under a Community Asset Transfer scheme, ownership of the public toilets at Kilmory, Whiting Bay, Sandbraes and Glen Sannox is set to pass to local organisations.

But no community agreement has been struck Lochranza or Lamlash and their toilets have now closed.

So have those at Brodick Green, though the public can access the nearby facilities in Brodick Hall during opening hours. The toilets at North Sannox have been been decommissioned because of their age and condition.

It comes as cheaper ferry fares have significantly boosted the number of visitors to Arran. A recent report evaluation found the introduction of the road equivalent tariff in 2014 has had a bigger impact on the island than any other to which Clyde and Hebridean Ferry Services sail.


The scheme, which bases fares on the cost of travelling the equivalent distance by road, cut the price of tickets on the Ardrossan to Brodick and Claonaig to Lochranza routes by as much as 65 per cent.

But some retail businesses have also reported a decline in customers and turnover as a result of people travelling off-island for shopping. Now business owners say the problem has been exacerbated by the public toilet closures.

Pierhead Tavern in Lamlash owner Jane Howe told the local newspaper The Arran Banner she was at her “wits end” as staff had to clean the toilets continually due to the numbers using them.

The paper has been full of letters, many from visitors. One from Wiltshire said Arran could be “one of the most beautiful destinations in the British Isles. However, the lack of public toilets relegates Arran to the second division of destinations....”

Jim Bannatyne, added: “I live near Blackwaterfoot and I can see people going up the riverside to relieve themselves. It is a disgrace. The island has been progressing well with the tourist industry benefitting from the cheap ferry fares introduced by the Scottish Government’s road equivalent tariff. So this is a bit of an embarrassment. The local toilet is closed, even to disabled people.”


A North Ayrshire Council spokesman said: “We have had to find £73 million of savings since 2010 which means that difficult decisions have to be made.”

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Yeah i can understand it,in the past people would have come over as a foot passenger but now use their car.Wonder if the bus company that runs all the tours has taken a massive hit.

We used to see the locals go over as foot passengers with their wheeled luggage to shop at Aldi ect,now they can use their own cars.Since the cost of deliveries has decreased,has the food costs gone down?,,,Doubt it but you never know

We bought a 200g jar of Nescafé gold in Brodick last year for £4.50. It was selling for £6.95 in our local Asda.
 
I like Mull for the wildlife and don’t mind paying to stay at Fidden Farm campsite and exploring from there.
 
The toilets at Sannox are now locked because of Motorhomes emptying toilet cassettes and the locals are very nimby. I think the toilets are closed at Blackwater foot also. It’s a shame as it used to be a nice wee island. I thinks it’s because it’s only a wee place and doesn’t take a lot of vans to make it look busy.

I can confirm that the toilets at Sannox were not closed due to misuse by Motorhomes.
They were actually decommissioned in 2016 due to their state of disrepair.
The council would have had to spend around £50,000 to bring them up to standard.
However there are plans to replace them with Porta cabin toilets when funds are available.
The other 8 toilets were closed by the council, to save money.

Also the toilets at blackwaterfoot are now opened and available for use.
They reopened last year after being taken over by the local community.

Most important for us, is the two chemical waste points have never been affected by any of this, and have continued to be financed and maintained by Aran council.

There have been problems with the toilets at Brodick next to the beech with Motorhomes emptying their cassettes there, and general vandalism by others. These toilets are still open and available to the public. But to be honest I was inside them last year and they were filthy with no toilet paper or handwash.

But I have heard that calmac are considering fitting a chemical waste point at the ferry terminal, as they have done on other islands. Nothing definite though.

I just got this information by email
 
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Love Fidden,we tend to stay to the eastern side though for the WTE's.

They are awesome birds and one of the reasons I like Fidden. The sunsets are amazing and it very atmospheric when everyone gathers on the beach to watch it. Great for canoeing and just chillaxing.
 
They are awesome birds and one of the reasons I like Fidden. The sunsets are amazing and it very atmospheric when everyone gathers on the beach to watch it. Great for canoeing and just chillaxing.

That sounds great will have to try it out.
Love Iona and Staffa also
 
Jeff have you been to Staffa, it’s stunning.

I had seen it many times on photographs, but it’s far more stunning than any photo.

Yes mate,went on the Treshnish/Staffa boat tour.It was a glorious weather as well.Worth every penny.Nearly stood on a Puffin as it came out of its nest.Really not fazed by people
 
Yes mate,went on the Treshnish/Staffa boat tour.It was a glorious weather as well.Worth every penny.Nearly stood on a Puffin as it came out of its nest.Really not fazed by people

Good, it’s a wonderful sight when you look at it from the boat.
how about the isle of may in the Firth of Forth.
You go from anstruther, you have to book online in advance.
You get 4 hours on the island
It’s a great day out, and there’s a great wild camping spot in cellardyke about a mile away.
You will see puffins, gilliemotts, gannets, and more than I can mention.
Also Scotland’s oldest light house, and Scotland’s loudest compressed air foghorns, unfortunately they have not worked since the 80s.

Finnin farm is on my to do list now
 
We can choose our time

June or July (or August)

I guess midges will be about..
So when to avoid the main season please ?
 
June or July (or August)

I guess midges will be about..
So when to avoid the main season please ?

They normally kick of middle of May till late September.
But the horsefles ( cleggs) can be worse on certain parts of Arran.
Last year was the best year I have ever seen for the lack of midges.
They are worse at sunrise and sunset.
 
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June or July (or August)

I guess midges will be about..
So when to avoid the main season please ?

Was at Fort William yesterday and there was midges about already 😱. Must be the mild weather we’ve been having.
 
Yes midges everwhere BUT...

What I intended to ask was.."When is the best time to go to Arran to miss the main tourist season"

Late may is the earliest we can go..or we could delay to mid July onwards
With other Scottish delights planned we will probably tour for 1 month

I note Calmac do a Hopscotch
Arran and Kintyre | Hopscotch | CalMac Ferries

Still "Mulling it over" !
 
Good, it’s a wonderful sight when you look at it from the boat.
how about the isle of may in the Firth of Forth.
You go from anstruther, you have to book online in advance.
You get 4 hours on the island
It’s a great day out, and there’s a great wild camping spot in cellardyke about a mile away.
You will see puffins, gilliemotts, gannets, and more than I can mention.
Also Scotland’s oldest light house, and Scotland’s loudest compressed air foghorns, unfortunately they have not worked since the 80s.

Finnin farm is on my to do list now

Saw my first Dolphins on our Isle of May visit whilst enjoying a trip to Edinburgh then up into Fife and beyond.Best part of three dry weeks.
 
Saw my first Dolphins on our Isle of May visit whilst enjoying a trip to Edinburgh then up into Fife and beyond.Best part of three dry weeks.

I thought the foghorn set up covering both sides of the island was amazing.
I was surprised at the amount of buildings there.
The birds were amazing, I got some great photos.
The eider ducks just lying on the grass just looked up at you.

Fantastic trip really enjoyed it Jeff.

My sister wants to visit st kilda.
We planned a trip from Skye last year.
We got all of the way to uig only to find that the weather beat us.
Maybe this year.
 
What I intended to ask was.."When is the best time to go to Arran to miss the main tourist season"

Late may is the earliest we can go..or we could delay to mid July onwards
With other Scottish delights planned we will probably tour for 1 month

I note Calmac do a Hopscotch
Arran and Kintyre | Hopscotch | CalMac Ferries

Still "Mulling it over" !

I am going over in May, July, and then September.
I have never had a problem with any tourist season.
I don’t agree with some of the comments on here regarding to many Motorhomes.
In the summer there may be 20-30 on the island and some of them head for the two main campsite at Lochranza and kildonnan. Not every Motorhomer wild camps on the island.
Lochranza, whiting bay, Lamlash and blackwaterfoot can get a bit busy but not as busy as a mainland seaside resort. They are all worth a visit. At night many leave the island heading home on the ferry only staying for the day.

The west side of the island is really nice, you get amazing sunsets over kintyre, and it’s quieter.

Don’t worry to much about when you visit, but do book your ferry tickets well in advance


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