Why Do You Like Wild Camping?

[Tigatigatiger]

For me it is the artificiality of the people on sites.

The peering and twitching of curtains really focs me off.

I am a member of the CC and I read a readers letter a while back where some sad barsteward was correlating the towing car with the weight of the outfit being pulled then sharing all about the 85 percent rules etc ...foccin sad!!!

It mattered so much to the individual that it was worthy of a letter to the club mag...( and they printed it )

I wont in recreation time at least be told what I will and won't do so club sites are a means to an end in my book.

Moreover I am comfortable with my own company and the hounds, so we set the agenda of a walk etc...It is possible I am not a people lover and possibly anti social ( but in a nice way).

Channa

My sister and I do wonder where these people come from-we have both seen complete jobs worths wardens on CC sites! Plus my hubby did have a run in with one warden on one site about washing up dog bowls in the washing up area? Some bloody stupid sign-we'll not be going back there!

After one night of drinking and merryment we thought we would be asked to leave-we'd had to to much fun! Next morning people walking by pointed and made comments-our sin?

Drinking, having a BBQ then playing on our Wii in the awning, they had only been out a few weeks, and we played on a tiny telly, it was great fun! I'm sure know one walking by had a clue what was going on! LOL

Also some fellow caravan club members-sad old buggers! Until we bought our MH we had a 33 year old classic Hymer Eriba pan caravan, all of 12 foot of it, towed it behind our 1.4 TDi fabia, it was and still is fully hipped (very floral inside and out-fairy lights etc.) Loved that caravan made people smile or point and laugh. One bloke couldn't believe we coudl be happy with it-he had a brand new tip top white box, but this to daughters asked "next time can we get a caravan like this one?" His face was a picture!

 

[n8rbos]

My sister and I do wonder where these people come from-we have both seen complete jobs worths wardens on CC sites! Plus my hubby did have a run in with one warden on one site about washing up dog bowls in the washing up area? Some bloody stupid sign-we'll not be going back there!

After one night of drinking and merryment we thought we would be asked to leave-we'd had to to much fun! Next morning people walking by pointed and made comments-our sin?

Drinking, having a BBQ then playing on our Wii in the awning, they had only been out a few weeks, and we played on a tiny telly, it was great fun! I'm sure know one walking by had a clue what was going on! LOL

Also some fellow caravan club members-sad old buggers! Until we bought our MH we had a 33 year old classic Hymer Eriba pan caravan, all of 12 foot of it, towed it behind our 1.4 TDi fabia, it was and still is fully hipped (very floral inside and out-fairy lights etc.) Loved that caravan made people smile or point and laugh. One bloke couldn't believe we coudl be happy with it-he had a brand new tip top white box, but this to daughters asked "next time can we get a caravan like this one?" His face was a picture!

goes to prove you don't need to break the bank to have fun!!!

 

[moy]

why do i like wilding

we agree with most of if not all of the comments in favour of wilding, i hate going on commercial sites and being asked if you've got a dog, paying through the nose for the privalidge and then being told that there is nowhere on site that they are permitted even to be exercised, snotty caravanners next door who seem to think as you only have a motorhome half of your pitch is theirs, and get the needle when you start to take up a bit more room, the anti kids brigade, (actually the anti eveything that they have'nt got brigade) give me the dozy bunch of wilders that we seem to come across wherever we go

 

[locket]

Great fun i love it

 

[rach-chavette]

freedom and the excitement of where we will end up exploring places you never would when on a campsite

 

[jann]

Wilding is being in a secluded place with views that you could not pay for.

If we do go on a site we pick Caravan Club sites because they don't allow late night noise unlike some commercial sites.

CLs are a good compromise if you want peace and quiet and there is nowhere suitable to wild or you need to empty/fill tanks

 

[kimbowbill]

Hi, Apart from the complete & utter freedom to roam aspect of it. I have always been puzzled by individuals who spend many £housands on a motorhome, kit it out with large capacity leisure batteries, backed up by solar panels, internal water tanks, central heating,cookers, fridge freezers & a double bed.Then spend their leisure time on a campsite. Simples , I don't think so.

Dezi

ere ere dezi,

 

[kimbowbill]

Dunno where to start really. Lets start this year for example,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJxrN-WJVO8

and again,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zD7q4d21Jc

Couple from last year,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7JOSQnv3nM

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es3bejROzLA

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzUOSuv0Ps

This is why i like it

jed

Excuse me, Jed The Spread, am i missing something here? can you enlighten me on, the fun of driving through natural rivers, driving on walkways, ect ect ect, WTF is that all about, i dont usually get mad, but you are a total utter disgrace to humanity, how dare you disrespect our countryside you selfish piece of S**t, you make me sick, its people like you that spoil it for everyone else, who do you think you are, this is a public domain, i hope someone clocks your reg plate and fines you for this, in fact, i'm gunna do it, and you have the audasity to post it on you tube, great example you are setting for that irritable child of yours, i'm not going to say get a life, you dont deserve one

 

[vantoguk]

Excuse me, Jed The Spread, am i missing something here?

you might be!

If Jed is greenlaning its perfectly legal, as far as I know and carefully monitored.

If someone is caught driving off road and not on one of the lanes designated legal to drive over they can have their vehicle compounded and then fined. Whats worse - driving over a green lane and keeping them open for such use or taking advantage of the great motorways such as the A1, M25, M1 etc that have destroyed our countryside for ever

 

[kimbowbill]

you might be!

If Jed is greenlaning its perfectly legal, as far as I know and carefully monitored.

If someone is caught driving off road and not on one of the lanes designated legal to drive over they can have their vehicle compounded and then fined. Whats worse - driving over a green lane and keeping them open for such use or taking advantage of the great motorways such as the A1, M25, M1 etc that have destroyed our countryside for ever

To be honest i thought after i had put my rant it could be greenlaning but some of it isnt, going over rocks and craggs? i dont thinks so. i'm sure i will be told off for my rant and if i am wrong i will apologise, the motorway networkworking could be another interesting thread, maybe you should start one, lets see the views,

thanks

J

 

[kimbowbill]

you might be!

If Jed is greenlaning its perfectly legal, as far as I know and carefully monitored.

If someone is caught driving off road and not on one of the lanes designated legal to drive over they can have their vehicle compounded and then fined. Whats worse - driving over a green lane and keeping them open for such use or taking advantage of the great motorways such as the A1, M25, M1 etc that have destroyed our countryside for ever

oh sorry, forgot to mention, do the forestry commission do green laning then? and on a public walkway? also, there is a pic of a man taking a dump is that legal in green laning rules, i'm just curious thats all, dont know much about it, i may need educating,

 

[biggirafe]

Excuse me, Jed The Spread, am i missing something here? can you enlighten me on, the fun of driving through natural rivers, driving on walkways, ect ect ect, WTF is that all about, i dont usually get mad, but you are a total utter disgrace to humanity, how dare you disrespect our countryside you selfish piece of S**t, you make me sick, its people like you that spoil it for everyone else, who do you think you are, this is a public domain, i hope someone clocks your reg plate and fines you for this, in fact, i'm gunna do it, and you have the audasity to post it on you tube, great example you are setting for that irritable child of yours, i'm not going to say get a life, you dont deserve one

Sorry but you are wrong here, many 'footpaths' are in fact unpaved roads and its perfectly legal to drive on them.

I used to have a 4x4, the last I heard there are about 100,000 miles of footpaths in the uk and only 5000 miles of 'green lanes'. Sadly the poor attitude of misinformed people means that number is diminishing each year. Jed is not driving on footpaths he is driving on 'Green Lanes' unpaved roads. Legal and good fun, a great way to get to out of the way campsites that you could not reach without a vehicle and if carried out responsibly having very little impact on the environment, I would think certainly less than me driving my beast up the motorway to a campsite.

So what if they are closing greenlanes you might say, well many of the green lanes are historical roads joining ancient villages and markets and once gone they do not return. A farmer can ask for a green lane to be declasified if he can prove its not in use, and do not think it automatically becomes a footpath it does not, very often they are just closed so that no-one can use them apart from the farmer.

In my mind the rights of wildcampers and the rights of people to walk and drive in the countryside are very much the same. Its about 'rights' and just because you don't like it does not mean that other should not have the right if its legal.

 

[Channa]

oh sorry, forgot to mention, do the forestry commission do green laning then? and on a public walkway? also, there is a pic of a man taking a dump is that legal in green laning rules, i'm just curious thats all, dont know much about it, i may need educating,

The subject of greenlaning does stir a lot of emotion with various user groups, Check out a ramblers association thread !!!

Has Bg states it is perfectly legal if the lane is designated as a road.

Of course one could argue the roads originally were used by horses and not 4x4's with aggressive tyres. And the enviromental impact is significantly different.

A lot of lanes have been reclassified and vehicle use banned on this argument.
Has a rule byways and rupp's are ok to drive footpaths and bridleways arent.

In your neck Kimbo Houndkirk Moor, And Stanedge edge up towards the pole and down to Redmires are green lanes with vehicular access allowed.

In the case of Stanedge there are lots of rocks, that bad a 4x4 needs to be modified and a spotter required to stop underneath the vehicle getting a bang on a rock.

Forestry commission lease a site in dalby forest to a 4x4 centre at langdale end. However you would pay, and the FC manage the damage by altering the course.

btw, I only know this from riding a mountain bike, However some believe that too should be banned. a foot path should be just that etc etc....it all gets very emotive for sure.

Channa

 

[kimbowbill]

The subject of greenlaning does stir a lot of emotion with various user groups, Check out a ramblers association thread !!!

Has Bg states it is perfectly legal if the lane is designated as a road.

Of course one could argue the roads originally were used by horses and not 4x4's with aggressive tyres. And the enviromental impact is significantly different.

A lot of lanes have been reclassified and vehicle use banned on this argument.
Has a rule byways and rupp's are ok to drive footpaths and bridleways arent.

In your neck Kimbo Houndkirk Moor, And Stanedge edge up towards the pole and down to Redmires are green lanes with vehicular access allowed.

In the case of Stanedge there are lots of rocks, that bad a 4x4 needs to be modified and a spotter required to stop underneath the vehicle getting a bang on a rock.

Forestry commission lease a site in dalby forest to a 4x4 centre at langdale end. However you would pay, and the FC manage the damage by altering the course.

btw, I only know this from riding a mountain bike, However some believe that too should be banned. a foot path should be just that etc etc....it all gets very emotive for sure.

Channa

Hi Channa

i knew i could count on you for a sensible answer, i just saw the clips expecting some good wilding spots and it made me mad seeing the vans going over craggs and rocks place where i walk with the dogs and my grandaughter, i agree with BG the countryside is for all to enjoy, when i had my horse i used to get loads of abuse even when on bridleways, an issue that will never resolve, i am waitng in anticipation for AJ's comments.

cheers

J

 

[Channa]

Interestingly Derbyshire Council and perhaps for obvious reasons are one of the few councils in my opinion to try and manage the countryside for all off road users, Whether 4x4 mountain bike horse etc.

I was out riding near Roych gulch ( near Mam Tor ) a couple of years back and the council were laying cobbles to manage erosion from 4 x4 's

I got chatting to a couple of the fellas, and they were of the opinion that placing a ban wouldnt actually stop the problem, so it was decided to let access continue after they had prepared some of the ground to minimise impact.

Meanwhile North yorks who enjoy similar countryside have attempted to re classify every road they can,to prevent vehicular access however one doesnt have to walk cycle too far to see it hasnt worked.

Channa

 

[biggirafe]

Some good comments from all, pleased to see you have clamed down a bit J. I too do not like to see 4x4 vehicles on footpaths and would report someone on a foot path, but within the law I believe there is room for all.

With regards to the ruts left by 4x4's please remember that farmers very often use the same roads to feed animals everyday and they make the mess, horses too can make a mess of a bridleway, who hasn't walked on a bridleway that is a mess because of horses. Also many of these roads would have been used by horse+card ox+cart and would always have been rutted and muddy. Now the walkers believe that they 'own' these routes and as such they should be perfect and mud + rut free. Me I stay off of roads, byways and rupps when walking and try to stick to footpaths in that way I don't feel the need to complain. Thats not too say that like wildcampers there are not irresponsible 4x4 drivers roads such as the ridgeway have been ruined because of irresponsible 4x4 users who insist on racing on it and driving on it during winter.

Another point that the ramblers my not be aware of (I'm a member) is that very often the farmers and landowners are the people trying to get a 'by way' declasified by complaining about the ocasional 4x4, they may have an alterior motive. The land belongs to the council and as a byway must meet certain criteria with regards width etc. If they can get it declasified then as a footpath they can land grab both sides and grub up the hedgerows and they gain land from the people. If the footpath is then not used for 5 years it will be closed and guess who gets the land free of charge from us, with the price of land this can be considerable sums of money

 

[barryd]

Excuse me, Jed The Spread, am i missing something here? can you enlighten me on, the fun of driving through natural rivers, driving on walkways, ect ect ect, WTF is that all about, i dont usually get mad, but you are a total utter disgrace to humanity, how dare you disrespect our countryside you selfish piece of S**t, you make me sick, its people like you that spoil it for everyone else, who do you think you are, this is a public domain, i hope someone clocks your reg plate and fines you for this, in fact, i'm gunna do it, and you have the audasity to post it on you tube, great example you are setting for that irritable child of yours, i'm not going to say get a life, you dont deserve one

I think you should appologise for this post. IT is a disgrace, not the green lane videos.

 

[kimbowbill]

I think you should appologise for this post. IT is a disgrace, not the green lane videos.

not really interested what you think, maybe you should look at your own posts, re Hayfield meet and the use of innapropriate language, kettle and frying pan springs to mind.

 

[coventrycraig]

When I started this topic, I never realised people would be upset on how others use the land. I suppose I can see both sides really to the argument.
Many people will not want to see 4x4's tearing through the countryside but if there not doing anything wrong leagally - we have to be tollerant of each other!

Anyway, Im glad you all enjoy wild camping!

I sold my kontiki in the week but with regret. I may have to become a tugger for a bit but I will be back to it one day - if the goverment dont completly price us off the road!

Wilding gives us freedom to do as we please - long may it live!!!

Craig

 

[Channa]

When I started this topic, I never realised people would be upset on how others use the land. I suppose I can see both sides really to the argument.
Many people will not want to see 4x4's tearing through the countryside but if there not doing anything wrong leagally - we have to be tollerant of each other!

Anyway, Im glad you all enjoy wild camping!

I sold my kontiki in the week but with regret. I may have to become a tugger for a bit but I will be back to it one day - if the goverment dont completly price us off the road!

Wilding gives us freedom to do as we please - long may it live!!!

Craig

Indeed and the fact your personal circumstances have meant that you have sold your van doesnt preclude you from participating in the banter and more serious forums.

Please continue to give input.

regards

Channa