Thetford toilet, a cautionary tale

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I realised recently that the solenoid valve on my Thetford toilet was not closing fully. This resulted in a slow dribble into the bowl and occasional cycling of the water pump. In addition water was dripping down and pooling on the top of the cassette.

Having established the part number online, and being minded to get a repairer to replace it rather than fiddle around with it myself, I found a Thetford service agent who could fix it the week following.

I had described by email very precisely what was happening. Not unreasonably I thought it would be an easy fix.

So I went back to collect the 'van, paid the rather larger than expected bill, and tested it.

Water still leaking onto the top of the cassette!

The guy who had replaced the solenoid valve said he'd tested it and it was fine. This seemed unlikely to have been true given the considerable amount of water that was present. He suggested that the vacuum breaker, which seems to be some kind of non return valve and is fitted adjacent to the valve, might be leaking. And so it proved when he disassembled it for the second time whilst I waited.

I learned four things.

1. As usual it is to be expected that a simple task such as this will not be fixed first time.

2. It is likely that a repair won't be tested fully.

3. Thetford parts are very expensive when purchased from their agents.

4. Always replace both the solenoid valve and vacuum breaker at the same time.

Oh, and another thing, motorhome dealers are not a good option when needing something fixing. I have established this previously and vowed never to use one again. But I decided to try once again having told this dealer by email of earlier bad experiences, and having been assured by them that they were different. Not so sadly ...
 
It's the same in all walks of life. Very few have pride in what they do. It's only because people tolerate being given substandard work lazy corrupt sods get away with it.
BTW the way I used a word in the correct context, not the one associated with psychologically damaged idiots!
 
The vacuum breaker leaked on our toilet, after some head scratching I realised it was a secondary problem due to the main water pump starting to pack up, there wasn't enough pressure to close the valve properly.
 
Interesting, I thought, pressing the flush button just started the pump, I have a C200.
There are a few designs, one uses the pressurised drinking water. So just a solenoid used. Another has it's own water tank and a submerged pump. Then the version I went for, for the the Betty Build. It's own water tank and a hand pump.
 
The solenoid valve is easy to replace. Getting the bowl out to do it is the swine of a job. Well, getting it back in is, at least.
Yes, Thetford parts cost silly money, but I bought an inline 12v solenoid valve on eBay for less than £2. It fitted perfectly and works as it should. I ordered a second one, assuming that something so cheap wouldn't last. Years later, it's still in the spares drawer.
The vacuum breaker didn't look like something that will wear out. Mine is approaching its 24th birthday this year. They don't work if you fit them in the wrong place or the wrong way up. They clip in and it's easy to not quite get the clip to catch.
The tricky bit is fitting the bowl fixing brackets in when putting the bowl back in, but you also have to get the hoses in place so they are happy when the bowl swivels. Of course, that's when the vacuum breaker clip comes undone if it's not fitted right!
 
There are a few designs, one uses the pressurised drinking water. So just a solenoid used. Another has it's own water tank and a submerged pump. Then the version I went for, for the the Betty Build. It's own water tank and a hand pump.
Ah, that makes sense. I have a seperate tank, annoying to have to fill it as well but saves the solenoid and risk of backfilling toilet water 💩 to driniking supply 🤒.
 
Ah, that makes sense. I have a seperate tank, annoying to have to fill it as well but saves the solenoid and risk of backfilling toilet water 💩 to driniking supply 🤒.
It is something that has worried me. With domestic plumbing you are not allowed a direct water connection, hence the air gap between the valve and the tank water. No good in a Motorhome, you wouldn’t keep the water in the tank.
 
The solenoid valve is easy to replace. Getting the bowl out to do it is the swine of a job. Well, getting it back in is, at least.
Yes, Thetford parts cost silly money, but I bought an inline 12v solenoid valve on eBay for less than £2. It fitted perfectly and works as it should. I ordered a second one, assuming that something so cheap wouldn't last. Years later, it's still in the spares drawer.
The vacuum breaker didn't look like something that will wear out. Mine is approaching its 24th birthday this year. They don't work if you fit them in the wrong place or the wrong way up. They clip in and it's easy to not quite get the clip to catch.
The tricky bit is fitting the bowl fixing brackets in when putting the bowl back in, but you also have to get the hoses in place so they are happy when the bowl swivels. Of course, that's when the vacuum breaker clip comes undone if it's not fitted right!
The solenoid valve online is £40 or less. The dealer charged me £63 plus VAT! £75.60!!

I agree that the vacuum breaker can't wear out. However in my case the seam in the plastic moulding had split.
 
It is something that has worried me. With domestic plumbing you are not allowed a direct water connection, hence the air gap between the valve and the tank water. No good in a Motorhome, you wouldn’t keep the water in the tank.
In domestic plumbing, the worry is that if the mains pressure drops, water could be drawn backwards into the taps from places it was stored, such as cisterns or boilers. Not a problem in a motorhome.
 

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