The C&MC and use of electricity.

Many years ago we arrived at CCC Salisbury and were offered EHU or Non-EHU (adjoining fields). We chose "non" but were asked to be honest, as some campers pay for "non" then run a lead under the hedge to a bollard after the office closes at 6pm.

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Well if I was a warden there I would take a short walk to check things.
Any members caught should be sent packing on the spot, banned from the club if members, and banned from all of their sites. I would even report anyone I saw doing this. For me there is no difference between this and shoplifting. :mad:
 
CAMC site fees are now on the heavy side anyway so any plea to be sparing with the electric will go on death ears for most of its site visiting membership. Mainly caravaners anyway I would suspect and they normally do require electric.

As a motorhome user I don’t need electric. It’s a nice to have but not a need to have. In saying this we have booked 4 weeks on a CCC site and did weigh up whether to have a non electric grass pitch or one with electric. As it was a 4 week stay I decided to opt for the use of electric at an additional cost of £180 or £35 a week. For a stay of 3 to 5 nights would have gone electric free. But the motorhome will be virtually static for 4 weeks and will do a lot of e-biking and we have a scooter anyway so it seemed sensible to take up the option.

Now why can’t the CAMC offer this option on every site?
CAMC site fees are now on the heavy side anyway so any plea to be sparing with the electric will go on death ears for most of its site visiting membership. Mainly caravaners anyway I would suspect and they normally do require electric.

As a motorhome user I don’t need electric. It’s a nice to have but not a need to have. In saying this we have booked 4 weeks on a CCC site and did weigh up whether to have a non electric grass pitch or one with electric. As it was a 4 week stay I decided to opt for the use of electric at an additional cost of £180 or £35 a week. For a stay of 3 to 5 nights would have gone electric free. But the motorhome will be virtually static for 4 weeks and will do a lot of e-biking and we have a scooter anyway so it seemed sensible to take up the option.

Now why can’t the CAMC offer this option on every site?
Personally I think metering is inevitable but also the fairest. I changed my Moho last year and my new one has Alde, Microwave, TV etc etc and I sometimes charge my e-bikes. Despite having plenty of solar on the roof I most likely use more electricity than the majority of campervans and mohos.
 
Personally I think metering is inevitable but also the fairest. I changed my Moho last year and my new one has Alde, Microwave, TV etc etc and I sometimes charge my e-bikes. Despite having plenty of solar on the roof I most likely use more electricity than the majority of campervans and mohos.
I agree so long as campsites lower their initial fees. This way all pitches are potentially non EHU, saving money for those who don’t want it.
 
We can accept non members ok, it’s on their signage. We’re near Filey North Yorkshire.
I think you can be a bit more pacific than that :D :D

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Are charges based on the facilities, area or what they think they can get away with?
The area and what they can get away with.

Checking the East Sussex area shocked to discover that CAMC Brighton now want £40 to £50 a night with the lower rate for off peak. Shocking! Checked pitchup to see what other non club sites were available and the charges start from £30 for a field without electric! Even CLs in the area are around the £30 mark with electric extra.

So will be wilding most of the time if visiting that area.

Checked Paignton and there is a decent non club site off peak charging £24 a night including electric. CAMC Ramsdale want £30 a night.

All figures for 2 people.

Feel slightly conned by CAMC as they always claim “prices from” which look competitive and then you find out this is for 1 person.
 
Emailed a mcc cl to ask if they would do a discounted rate if not using electricity. They said no as they couldn't isolate the hook ups...
 
Last time we went to Brighton it was £28 a night which for the location and convenience seemed fair. £40 or more and forget it!

Paignton it is then. Brighton is a bit of an overpriced wokey rough sleeper type of place now anyway. You can still get cornets for £1 in Paignton.
 
The area and what they can get away with.

Checking the East Sussex area shocked to discover that CAMC Brighton now want £40 to £50 a night with the lower rate for off peak. Shocking! Checked pitchup to see what other non club sites were available and the charges start from £30 for a field without electric! Even CLs in the area are around the £30 mark with electric extra.

So will be wilding most of the time if visiting that area.

Checked Paignton and there is a decent non club site off peak charging £24 a night including electric. CAMC Ramsdale want £30 a night.

All figures for 2 people.

Feel slightly conned by CAMC as they always claim “prices from” which look competitive and then you find out this is for 1 person.
It also depends on the time of year.
We like the Lake District, but avoid it in summer, it’s far to busy then.
The CCC have lots of sites there, one we like is Braithwaite Village.
A really good site 2 miles outside Keswick.
We were there in December £22.60 a night, hard standing, and EHU.
We were there last weekend for £25 a night.
The CCC are more reasonable, and they give ACR over 60 members an additional 10% discount.
 
Emailed a mcc cl to ask if they would do a discounted rate if not using electricity. They said no as they couldn't isolate the hook ups...
Wasting your time Debroos, they will continue to complain about high energy costs, increase their site fees accordingly, then when fuel prices drop maintain higher prices, whilst claiming to be environmentally friendly. They are a complete joke, their only concern is how much they can screw you for. Just look at the figures quoted on here, and those figures are for people who are members, add 20% for non members. I know it won’t happen, but the only message this lot will take heed of is mass withdrawal of members with motorhomes, and that won’t happen.
 
Just caught this thread and read the first page only, jaysus, it's depressing reading. I know I keep harping on about NZ but the UK could really learn a thing or too from NZ.
We are currently on a Council run and owned campsite in a stunning location. The cost is $15pp or $13pp if a NZMCA member which is a sister member of C&CM. All facilities are provided, toilets, showers, dump station, recycling, water, kitchen, laundry and choice of pitch.
The site is run and maintained by Council employees, therefore providing jobs in the community.
There are seasonal pitches and storage pitches. This is all a good source of revenue for local Councils.
The site we are currently on is none EHU but other sites we have stayed on have EHU priced at $5pn.

Why is it so damn difficult back in Blighty to give good service at a reasonable cost?
 
The area and what they can get away with.

Checking the East Sussex area shocked to discover that CAMC Brighton now want £40 to £50 a night with the lower rate for off peak. Shocking! Checked pitchup to see what other non club sites were available and the charges start from £30 for a field without electric! Even CLs in the area are around the £30 mark with electric extra.

So will be wilding most of the time if visiting that area.

Checked Paignton and there is a decent non club site off peak charging £24 a night including electric. CAMC Ramsdale want £30 a night.

All figures for 2 people.

Feel slightly conned by CAMC as they always claim “prices from” which look competitive and then you find out this is for 1 person.
And I assume you are a fully paid up member, if not you can add 20-30% on to their prices. They never miss a trick to screw us over.
 
Emailed a mcc cl to ask if they would do a discounted rate if not using electricity. They said no as they couldn't isolate the hook ups...
What they really mean is they don’t trust you to be sneaky at night. Earlier somebody moaned about Spanish sites having locked cabinets that had to be unlocked for this that and the other. I happily put up with this inconvenience if it means I have a cheaper rate without electric or only get charged for electric I use.
 
Why is it so damn difficult back in Blighty to give good service at a reasonable cost?
Because we are being treated like idiots by an organisation who look down their noses at those who wild camp, whilst being screwed by them, even though we are members. They constantly look for ways to increase their prices, and sadly we keep encouraging them by paying them. But I suppose when you have 65 million people on a small island it’s bound to be a bit more expensive than a place like NZ with only 5 million Ral.
 
Just caught this thread and read the first page only, jaysus, it's depressing reading. I know I keep harping on about NZ but the UK could really learn a thing or too from NZ.
We are currently on a Council run and owned campsite in a stunning location. The cost is $15pp or $13pp if a NZMCA member which is a sister member of C&CM. All facilities are provided, toilets, showers, dump station, recycling, water, kitchen, laundry and choice of pitch.
The site is run and maintained by Council employees, therefore providing jobs in the community.
There are seasonal pitches and storage pitches. This is all a good source of revenue for local Councils.
The site we are currently on is none EHU but other sites we have stayed on have EHU priced at $5pn.

Why is it so damn difficult back in Blighty to give good service at a reasonable cost?
Basically because Brits won't work for nothing, it's also why we make very little in this country anymore we always price ourselves out of the market.

At the same time we have foreign firms with huge businesses and they only give zero hours contracts and pay minimum wage.
 
Wasting your time Debroos, they will continue to complain about high energy costs, increase their site fees accordingly, then when fuel prices drop maintain higher prices, whilst claiming to be environmentally friendly. They are a complete joke, their only concern is how much they can screw you for. Just look at the figures quoted on here, and those figures are for people who are members, add 20% for non members. I know it won’t happen, but the only message this lot will take heed of is mass withdrawal of members with motorhomes, and that won’t happen.
Thought I'd try as someone said on this thread that some cl's do offer reductions. Worth trying I reckon especially as wildcamping is so difficult down this way.
I take your point re leaving but we are a minority and I don't think it will make much difference to their finances and, as I said, we can't really do without them.
 
Thought I'd try as someone said on this thread that some cl's do offer reductions. Worth trying I reckon especially as wildcamping is so difficult down this way.
I take your point re leaving but we are a minority and I don't think it will make much difference to their finances and, as I said, we can't really do without them.
Debroos, we are a very large minority. Probably 30-40%. For the past three years more motorhomes and camper vans have been sold in the U.K. than caravans. And it’s reckoned that by 2030 we will outnumber them. I always take a walk round a site taking note of motorhomes v caravans. In summer there are more caravans, but in winter we vastly outnumber them. Even in summer I have stayed on sites were were outnumber caravans.
 
Debroos, we are a very large minority. Probably 30-40%. For the past three years more motorhomes and camper vans have been sold in the U.K. than caravans. And it’s reckoned that by 2030 we will outnumber them. I always take a walk round a site taking note of motorhomes v caravans. In summer there are more caravans, but in winter we vastly outnumber them. Even in summer I have stayed on sites were were outnumber caravans.
True but how do you know that 30/40% of motorhomes are both members of CMC and also wildcampers?
I really hope you're right btw! Maybe I'm just a pessimist
 

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