Thankful for safefill bottles
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Millie Master
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Ken, I went through exactly the same brain numbing exercise when I first filled my SafeFill tank!!!!
Even with my modification which allows me to fill the cylinder from a filling point fitted to the outer skin of my van, each and every season when I fill it up for the first time I have to admit that the grey cells have forgotten some of the filling process and as such I have to take my brain box (never forgets anything) most beloved along to remind me what I am doing wrong.
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I had a chat with the boss at Gasit tanks (https://www.gasit.co.uk/) and together we came up with a safe way of achieving my objective.
If my memory serves me correctly, I purchased from them an external filling point, two right angle connectors, a 1 mtr. length of heavy duty black gas hose, an inline lever on/off valve plus a couple of other small items, in total the cost came to close on £100..... ouch!
I only fitted this modification because I regularly travel to France where filling stations can be more than a bit iffy about filling loose cylinders and of course I can now fill up anywhere selling LPG in the UK.
It is a bit of a faff to do so, but when I know I am going to be filling up with gas, all I have to do is disconnect the orange outlet pipe and then connect the black pipe from the filling point. I then open the cylinders gas outlet as well as opening the in-line valve, job done ready to fill. Then when I have filled the tank and I am well away from the filling station, I simply close the in-line valve and the cylinders valve and swap the pipes over.
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I have taken the plunge bought a safe fill off kenmore caravans this morning 10 kg capacity .i have be station that will fill 800 yds away so hopefully sorted
I shall keep a record out of interest to see how quick I recover the initial investment and if folk are interested post my findings
I shall keep a record out of interest to see how quick I recover the initial investment and if folk are interested post my findings
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After almost 5 years of touring I am now several hundred £'s in pocket, or should that be the dreaded €'s !!
However as I have decided not to tour Europe any more I will be continuing to save countless £'s and might even consider installing LPG heating at my next home!!
Phil
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If you are going to pipe them up to external fill why go for SafeFill bottles? Am I right in thinking they are only certified for 5 years rather than 10 on steel? Then again SafeFill May have a set up to pressure test unlike steel bottle manufacturers lol
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Oil is more ifc at 1.5%,plus you can fix it yourself,gas you can not put one finger on it.
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10 years on these too.
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Thanks for clearing that one up
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I see safefill are still out of stock an alternative here https://www.lpgshop.co.uk/10kg-24-5l-refillable-composite-gas-bottle-uk/
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I have just read through the blurb about those cylinders and pick up on one utterly bonkers claim it being "Explosion proof in fire", what a total complete and utter load of sphericals!
What does it become, a ruddy great baloon?
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I'd have thought that like any of those plastic cylinders it would melt in a fire before exploding
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Having spoken to the top bloke at Safefill, he told me that they rupture and the gas burns off. Unlike the steel ones that build up pressure and go boom..
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Topped up our Safefill bottle on saturday, after 12 days wild camping in Cornwall, using the oven or grill at least once every day, making porrage every morning and boiling water umpteen times a day. It cost the grand total of £2.21p ( at 52.7p per litre ). Well pleased with that result.
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ISTM that the problem with a Safefill is that filling and emptying happens through the same valve.
Whereas on every other system AFAIK there is one valve to fill, and another to empty.
The whole point for me is not to have to muck about disconnecting the pigtail, taking out, filling, putting back in, reconnecting, testing for leaks (I do that every time the pigtail is disturbed).
I just open my gas locker, connect the nozzle to the direct fill adaptor on my R67 Gaslow, no extra pipes or plumbing or holes cut in the van.
If I chose to I could also lift it out and fill it up on the forecourt, just the same as a Safefill. And the direct fill thing is threaded to take all the other continental adapters, unscrew the UK bayonet, screw on a dish, or an Acme, or a Euronozzle,, not sure how that works for the Safefill, can it be done ?
10% more capacity, 15 year lifetime, accurate contents gauge easily readable, not trying to peer through a murky piece of fibreglass using a torch whilst sloshing it about to see it (I used to have a BP gaslight, same construction), and it's made of steel in which I have more confidence, has a sophisticated multivalve incorporating excess flow device so I can use it in motion as well as an integral contaminant filter.
Also a thorough system available, want an external fill point, want to run two or more, want a remote level monitor, everything you can think of is available.
Some stats:
Gaslow £167, 540mm tall, 304mm wide, weight 11.5 kg, capacity 11 kilos, recertify after 15 years
Safefill £180, 583mm tall, 310mm wide, weight 5 kg, capacity 10 kilos, recertify after 10 years.
Not sure what "recertification" costs or involves, I don't think either have been on the market long enough for that to be required yet.
I'm prepared to carry another 6.5 kg for the other advantages, as I see them. Sorry if that sounds like a downer on Safefill, It's not meant to be, each have their pros and cons.
Not sure how far you might get taking out a Safefill and trying to refill it on the forecourt in France or other countries, they might not like that, some UK ones won't allow it either.
Technically in France my R67 cylinder is not correct, it should be bolted into the gas locker and connected to an external fill point, but that's never been an issue in practice.
Whereas on every other system AFAIK there is one valve to fill, and another to empty.
The whole point for me is not to have to muck about disconnecting the pigtail, taking out, filling, putting back in, reconnecting, testing for leaks (I do that every time the pigtail is disturbed).
I just open my gas locker, connect the nozzle to the direct fill adaptor on my R67 Gaslow, no extra pipes or plumbing or holes cut in the van.
If I chose to I could also lift it out and fill it up on the forecourt, just the same as a Safefill. And the direct fill thing is threaded to take all the other continental adapters, unscrew the UK bayonet, screw on a dish, or an Acme, or a Euronozzle,, not sure how that works for the Safefill, can it be done ?
10% more capacity, 15 year lifetime, accurate contents gauge easily readable, not trying to peer through a murky piece of fibreglass using a torch whilst sloshing it about to see it (I used to have a BP gaslight, same construction), and it's made of steel in which I have more confidence, has a sophisticated multivalve incorporating excess flow device so I can use it in motion as well as an integral contaminant filter.
Also a thorough system available, want an external fill point, want to run two or more, want a remote level monitor, everything you can think of is available.
Some stats:
Gaslow £167, 540mm tall, 304mm wide, weight 11.5 kg, capacity 11 kilos, recertify after 15 years
Safefill £180, 583mm tall, 310mm wide, weight 5 kg, capacity 10 kilos, recertify after 10 years.
Not sure what "recertification" costs or involves, I don't think either have been on the market long enough for that to be required yet.
I'm prepared to carry another 6.5 kg for the other advantages, as I see them. Sorry if that sounds like a downer on Safefill, It's not meant to be, each have their pros and cons.
Not sure how far you might get taking out a Safefill and trying to refill it on the forecourt in France or other countries, they might not like that, some UK ones won't allow it either.
Technically in France my R67 cylinder is not correct, it should be bolted into the gas locker and connected to an external fill point, but that's never been an issue in practice.
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The early Gaslow bottles were 15 years but that was changed to 10 years a while back. Recertification of Gaslow bottles is exchanging for a new bottle but I couldn’t say the cost.
I also believe that the certification isn’t important if it’s private use but happy to be corrected on that one.
I also believe that the certification isn’t important if it’s private use but happy to be corrected on that one.
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My safefill gave the game away on Monday terry a perfect ice ring around the bottle. I didn’t even have to help with a glass of water
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I was referring to the fact my bottle had ice around it at the gas liquid level when I checked on Monday.
In my case with the wobble box in tow I am glad it can be easily removed, I wouldn’t fancy towing a van through the forecourt of my local filling station
In my case with the wobble box in tow I am glad it can be easily removed, I wouldn’t fancy towing a van through the forecourt of my local filling station