Spare wheel fiasco in the Highlands, again!

wildebus

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I carry a long torque bar for nuts, flat lever to lift the wheel up a inch or so to line up with the studs, next thing I'm buying is a couple of tyre inflating gunk.
I do believe when you cannot change a wheel its time to give up and hand the licence in, do remember its an offense to drive on an underinflated or damaged wheel.
I will have to disagree with the comment about ability to change a wheel :( there are plenty of perfectly safe and able drivers who for one reason or another are not able to physically change a wheel.
You and I and many others are fortunate that we are still able to do so, but I wouldn't make doing that a prequesite to driving. There are plenty of people on the road who can change a wheel but shouldn't have a licence to drive!

PS. the flat lever .... something some do is get a headless bolt and drop it into the hole to help support the wheel when you are lining it up with the bolt holes.
 
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Regarding changing a wheel there are many situations where it is dangerous to change it.

I would never put myself at risk on a busy road and even in a layby changing an offside wheel puts you at risk. And as for motorways it's a suicide mission.

Breakdown services are by far the best option whether or not you are capable physically. You pay a premium for their professional assistance after all.
 

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I will have to disagree with the comment about ability to change a wheel :( there are plenty of perfectly safe and able drivers who for one reason or another are not able to physically change a wheel.
You and I and many others are fortunate that we are still able to do so, but I wouldn't make doing that a prequesite to driving. There are plenty of people on the road who can change a wheel but shouldn't have a licence to drive!
Well said.
By Trev's reckoning I should never have been given a driving licence as I couldn't lift a car wheel with a tyre fitted to it when I was 17, either. Many drivers are not hulking great strong men like Trev.
That's why we have breakdown insurance.
As Canalsman says, it's not always safe for a driver to change a wheel at the side of a road and the Highway Code advises against doing so.
 

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I know this has been a topic of discussion before....

I took my car for an MOT earlier in the week, the garage is also a recovery agent here in the far north. Anyway, the guy there told me about what happened last Saturday morning.
A van in Durness had a puncture, on arriving it was evident the tyre was not repairable. The nearest new tyre was just north of Inverness, the tyre shop was now closed until Monday morning. The van was recovered to the tyre shop over the weekend, the van owners found a B&B at Durness and then took a taxi on Monday to collect their van. They had to buy a pair of tyres as the remaining tyre on the axle was quite worn.
The very mild mannered recovery agent finished telling me the story by adding ‘whoever thought that a vehicle need not carry a spare wheel was a good idea should be shot!’.

Personally, I would use a vehicle without a spare wheel. I’ve mentioned this before, don’t travel to the far north without a spare, you can be a hundred miles from a new tyre here.
You would use a vehicle without a spare, why?
 

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You would use a vehicle without a spare, why?
I think he meant "I would'NT use a vehicle without a spare wheel"?

But why not use a vehicle without a spare? The great majority of vehicles sold nowadays have no spare provided. Are they all unusable?
 

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Most of you have toy size tyres ;) These present more of a storage problem.
Have two wheels on each side of the back it is possible to run with just one, so in a way I have two spares fitted.


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I will have to disagree with the comment about ability to change a wheel :( there are plenty of perfectly safe and able drivers who for one reason or another are not able to physically change a wheel.
You and I and many others are fortunate that we are still able to do so, but I wouldn't make doing that a prequesite to driving. There are plenty of people on the road who can change a wheel but shouldn't have a licence to drive!

PS. the flat lever .... something some do is get a headless bolt and drop it into the hole to help support the wheel when you are lining it up with the bolt holes.
Yes my last soda had no studs and did as you say, as for wheel changing
The flat lever is to lift a heavy van wheel up an inch to get on the studs, old truck driver showed me this trick, lay flat and roll wheel over and lift.
As for older folk, yes I agree many for some reason cannot do a wheel change, but I have seen many who should not be driving but will not give up.
 
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My brother and sister wanted my mum to give up driving when her Escort became a bit of a struggle to drive. But I disagreed and found her a little Nissan Micra with Power Steering and Auto gearbox. Kept her on the road for a few more years. Those driver aids let her focus on the road and keep some independance :)

There is a tendancy to jack up a wheel nice and high and that means a big lift up. I tend to jack up just enough for the wheel to clear the ground (used to jack up, remove and refit around 16 wheels a week so got into a bit of a time and motion study of techniques)
 

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My brother and sister wanted my mum to give up driving when her Escort became a bit of a struggle to drive. But I disagreed and found her a little Nissan Micra with Power Steering and Auto gearbox. Kept her on the road for a few more years. Those driver aids let her focus on the road and keep some independance :)

There is a tendancy to jack up a wheel nice and high and that means a big lift up. I tend to jack up just enough for the wheel to clear the ground (used to jack up, remove and refit around 16 wheels a week so got into a bit of a time and motion study of techniques)
Yes thats the way i change wheels to, we had to take the car off fatherinlaw a few years back, his driving was plain dangerous, he never was a good driver at best, then covid took him away from us
 

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After our blow out on the M6 the other week, I got the tyre replaced, and swapped the spare off the MH and put the original back on with the new tyre. They are heavy beasties I can tell you...and I am no stick insect either! I already carried a torque wrench in the MH but I just bought a telescopic wheel nut wrench to keep in there too as I wouldn't have fancied getting the nuts off with the brace that is supplied. I have one for the home but now have one on board as well (not expensive from Ebay).

Just as an aide memoir: make sure that you know where your towing hook is and also your locking wheel nut keys too!
 

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