Skid Wheels

[jagmanx]

To be honest and, going by the one on our arto, you would be lucky if there is half an hours worth of welding in it. The 60x30 mm rear rectangle box section material cost would be very little, too. Even cheaper if an off-cut was available. The two sections (cut from plate I think) requires a bit of thought, then profiled to suit and to clear rear bottom valance.

Fitting: if based on tow bar fit, when I had a tow bar installed to my Mitsubishi, booked for a half day fit, cost me cash, £250 for complete fit. Have a look at T/bar for your spec of MH, see what they cost.

Ps, not been able to get underneath, monsoon here.

Scottish weather eh !

Not to worry....
You have given me good ideas and with the costs you suggest a solution similar to yours looks good

How might I source the metal rollers ? please

 

[wildebus]

If anyone is interested, I could bring some of the ones I have "in stock" with me to Moffat this coming weekend as I am having a clear out.

Length is 450mm, diameter is 50mm - or 18" x 2" in old money (sizes a bit approximate - just went out to measure in the dark!).

£10 each or £15 a pair?

 

[jagmanx]

Thanks Terry

Evening Phil,

I was actually down at Musselburgh today with dog, I needed some salt air in my lungs!! Quieter place now with height barriers in place.

Back on topic, a quick look around ebay took me to a few sellers, I like this one eBay - Page Not Found lots of options, go for longest (lenght) and at least 75mm (3" in old money) diameter.

Cheers.

Ps, aye lots of rain, lots of squalls down at Muss.

Found this one Only 0.75 metres long but 3 in Diameter looks suitably Heavy duty.
Could I fit 2 with say a 30cm (1 foot gap) in the middle..Or indeed 3
OR can you get longer ? (I doubt it)
Happy with the price
This one in particular looks very strong (industrial)

PS1 now understand why you you do not like the castors/wheels

PS2 Shame about the POI but it was getting abused.
I think it was the lazy day trippers that caused the litter problem.
Together with the gulls who would retrieve F&C wrappers from the bins.
Could have been resolved by allocating a few spaces right by the hotel and getting the staff who maintain the toilet to collect money !

 

[jagmanx]

Box section Qu for Terry

Stainless Steel SQUARE BOX Section grade 304 - 8 Sizes & 10 Lengths Available | eBay

Is This OK



Also what do I need at the ends of the Roller (Mountable bearings ?)

 

[cliveandann]

The two options covered in this thread so far are either protect the back end of the moho or lift the chassis. Another simple option is to raise the whole vehicle by using sand ladders. These can be used to make a bridge. Fibreglass grating is now commonly used in offroading. You can buy a pair of ladders on ebay for less than 40 pounds. They weigh around 8kgs and are 4 feet long. Also useful if you get stuck in a field.
38mm Off Road 4x4 Mud Snow Recovery Waffle Boards Bridging Sand Ladders 1230x310 | eBay

 

[Papillon]

Interesting to hear from someone like yourself who utilises caster setup. When you say "used on every trip" do you mean install, or you bottom out every trip?

They are needed to get in and out of my drive, tried fixed type but they couldnt cope if cornering.:wave:

 

[jagmanx]

Great thanks to Terry (Runnach)

I now have a firm plan for dealing with the bottoming out problem..

It will also provide some help against a rear end shunt.

I prefer it to the air-suspension solution as we like our van level
ALSO a full fit with compressor comes in at almost £1000..!

The roller solution maybe £250 to £300 tops and It is what I want !

I appreciate all the various suggestions which have their own merits.
So thank to all.

 

[big tom]

All part of the scooter carrier,I did consider using steel wheels,but decided against it.

 

[Dowel]

Good to see you have come to a conclusion.
Just in case the roller is a bit more than you expect, this looks ok and well priced. Available for older Régie Renaults too.

AIR SUSPENSION KIT with 12V Compressor - Renault Master (after 2010) - £279

eBay item number: 183555869259

“Very easy to fit! (max 2h), No chassis drilling required”



AIR SUSPENSION KIT with 12V Compressor - Renault Master (after 2010) | eBay

 

[Nabsim]

This is the sort of thing you would need if you don’t have a proper strong chassis, I know you aren’t going to be doing any wheelies but these are designed to take a hell of a lot of twist and power, more than a motorhome grounding out.

I would go skid plate and air assist though if it were me I think

Wheelie Bar 101: Installation and Top Tuning Tips - Dragzine

 

[Nabsim]

It really pisses me off when I view some of these idiots arc welding with arms exposed to IR and UV light!!

That’s where I used t9 get my sun tan from Terry

 

[jagmanx]

That clinches it 4 Me

One other point of use, it you bogged down in soft ground and, the only easy tow out access is from year, rear bar is a good fix point, I know this from practical experience.

Towing eye at the front..but as you say nothing at the rear unless.......
Thanks again

 

[jenks]

yes but shopping trolley wheels are only a quid for 4

Choose the right trolley you get a free kids seat a BBQ and possibly a sun lounger..... simple how to pics on google!

 

[jagmanx]

Thanks Terry

Managed some pics this afternoon, hope this gives you an idea of how mine was done.

Image 0237, this is a plan view showing thickness of flat plate, which is 5mm. This has been profiled to bolt onto original extended chassis.

The two bolts you see on 0238, flat bar ceases after 2nd bold in from the left.

Image 0239: looks like slots cut into channel section for outriggers to pass through, then sweep up to the 60x30mm box section.

Hope this helps.

ALL VG

Went hardware shopping today for hinges screes etc for the house
and noticed this "lump of substantial metal"
About 10in by 4 or 5 in

Maybe worth bring a couple back to UK

 

[jagmanx]

Thanks Terry

I wouldn't bother, Phil. They have been formed with too tight a bottom folding Vee, hence the stress raising cracks at each end of fold, of course a wee dab with TIG weld would cure.

Can you post a pic of internal and external fold areas?

Have to wait until I get back to UK...mid-April
No big tour planned or likely but can spend up to a month (or more) getting this done..

Will post some underneath photos then

Find a suitable welder etc etc

I have read you replies to HD

 

[jagmanx]

Yes Thanks

Ah OK, angle are in UK. Don't right them off, they maybe useful.

Once you get your head underneath will you true idea of how chassis fixing requires manufacturing. If you take my setup, you can clearly see the horizontal fix, then sweeps up to the vertical to clear bottom rear valance.

May be your storage folks can give you a point to a decent fabricator?

Angle here in Thailand but best plan is to wait until we are back in UK

Storage company make or repair Trailers and seem to have "metalwork skills"
So will see what they say
Also a small Motorhome dealer nearby and a small industrial estate with an auto repairshop...Both may know
and indeed there maybe another company on the industrial estate
and a big Moho dealer But I suspect they are mainly interested in selling
But again they may/should have info

This is of interest
https://budets.co.uk/epages/c08aedc...65-9ddd-abc6e60a45f3/Products/TR7A-Ren-Master

I suspect it is not robust enough but it may serve a a model/pattern or simply be suitably strengthened