Purchasing a Motorhome from New Zealand to travel Europe

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Hey guys, we are looking at bringing our two boys to Europe from NZ next year (2018) to travel for 6 months, camping. Can't wait!!!

We're looking to buy a motorhome to use during that time but are total newbies to this whole thing. Can anyone recommend a good place to buy a second motorhome and what you'd recommend for travel with a 2.5 and 4 year old for 6 months?? We figured we'd need to start in England, buy a motorhome and then travel from there? Ideally we could purchase something in advance :)

Any recommendations or tips would be greatly received x
 
Kia ora and welcome,there's loads on eBay and Gumtree and in car yards,it might help if you're more specific about your requirements eg van conversion,motorhome,a b or c class,what type of travelling you intend,free camping or staying on holiday parks?
Plenty of info on the forum as well if you do a search.
 
Hi

Purchasing a motorhome in advance seems a very unsatisfactory way to proceed but..

However
Unless you have a UK address you may find insurance either/both
Very expensive, Very difficult (especially with regard to Europe)
Registering the vehicle in your name may also be difficult

I am sorry to post this but...

A great shame
Both NZ and OZ are much more relaxed about insurance etc
We have toured both on Motorhome exchange basis.

On the last occasion my UK insurers needed £50 a week additional premium for the OZ couple even though they were expats from UK and had UK licence.

We swapped for 3 weeks
It may also be there is a time limit !
Europe was specifically prohibited !

Sorry this is all very negative for you... I hope you can overcome all the obstacles and come and enjoy.

Best wishes and GOOD LUCK
 
Buying a van in the UK is a lot harder than it used to be as you need an address that is accepted, take up the offer from Jays.

Buying a van in Germany is a lot easier (or was last time I did it) as when ownership is transferred you get Green Card insurance automatically from your choice of insurer. They seem a lot more open to having overseas visitors buy a vehicle, travel, then sell. Have a look on mobile.de – Gebrauchtwagen und Neuwagen – Deutschlands größter Fahrzeugmarkt to see whats available and the prices.

Don't get sucked into buying something that is too large - height/width as these can restrict access to a lot of places - especially in the UK where height barriers into car parks are very common. I've got friends who've travelled with kids of that age in a VW Kombi. Whatever you buy you'll need to have seat belts for the four of you - not something that is easy to find. I have a Mercedes Westfalia James Cook which has seat belts for six passengers and sleeps four, has a shower and toilet, hot water and central heating.

Buying from a dealer is more expensive but can also resolve the problems about address, registration (road tax) and insurance, some will offer a buyback which is handy and means yo can keep travelling until the last week of your holiday.

Take proof of no claims discount as many UK insurers will accept proof from NZ insurers especially if they happen to be an associated company - check with your NZ insurer if they have a UK associate or even parent company. UK insurance is expensive and still living in pre EU membership days - you still have to buy a Green Card from most insurers and they often have limits on days per year even though the UK is in the Green Card Zone.

I did a write up of a Europe trip a few years ago which might help, do a search on my posts.
 
Thanks so much for all your replies and advice. Hmmm I'm feeling very out of my depth here even just to know what type of motorhome we'd be looking at purchasing.

Even the type of travel we're intending.... cheap, loosely planned around swimming or outdoors stuff for the kids, slow... that's about as far as we've gotten with that.

Jagmanx thanks for the reality check - good to know :)

And Jays thanks for the offer - I will let you know if we need some help in that regard. We lived in London for 6 years and I guess I naively thought it would all be quite simple to rock up and purchase, insure a motorhome haha.

Roger - thanks for that advice - I hadn't thought of seat belts too and space for carseats. Great to know about the no claims thing too, will keep that in mind and check out your Europe post.

Pity we didn't have a motorhome to trade for 6 months travel in NZ! We do a have a home... but it will be winter and we live in Wellington (not quite the picturesque south island) so doesn't sound like a fair trade :)

Ok thanks guys, if you have any other tips re: what we should be looking out for in a motorhome that'd be great - until then I'll get researching in the forums xo
 
Regarding insurance: when my brother came over from Oz he brought over confirmation of no claims on his insurance. He bought a Ford Focus here and the insurance was £186 fully comprehensive. Our insurance on a same year Saab was £194. It pays to shop around!
 
Very pleased

To see posts which are more positive than mine !
I was simply alerting how difficult it MIGHT be.
 
YOU CAN DO IT - Come and see the UK

Hi,

If you want - similar to the Jays kind invitation above, get across to UK and initially stop at our house in Somerset. As you probably aware we are in the SW, and Jays are up in Scotland.
If I recall correctly the "Jays" were returning from NZ and I made contact with them about possible purchase of the MH they had for sale as an option for one of our travels. We ended up going to Canada instead.

We met a lot of Auss/NZ travelling around Europe so the problems are not insurmountable, just a finance issue really.

If you want to tour the SW, if the timing is right there is possibility you could use our MH. It is a little battle worn as it is now 18 years old but mechanically well maintained and solid also very suitable for a family of 4. We are in Ireland at the moment - off to France tonight to get to Spain for the winter.

Send me some details of yourselves and I shall enquire about what the insurers say about it then you can make some decisions. I have insurance with the sites' linked insurer AIB who have me on an Eagle Star policy. June is when the policy renews so I shall be making enquiries soon anyway.

If you are very keen to buy your own MH then you would have the issue of selling it on your departure which could be a problem financially also.
I guess you would realise most MH's in UK are based on the Fiat DUCATO, with some on VW or Mercedes, other brands are also available but not in large quantities

PM me and I shall respond when I can. I would recommend you join the forum as a proper member you will find a lot more info which could help you.
Have fun planning the trip.

Regards
 
Great have now joined the forum proper. Stagmanx, will PM you now :)
 
I'd explore the house/van swap option a bit more, plenty of people like the idea of wintering somewhere else. Plenty of websites with swaps wanted. Its certainly the best and cheapest option.

I should add something about insurance that I had forgotten - UK insurers do issue Green Cards with all vehicle insurance, they then gouge you to pay an extra premium when you want to go travelling in the rest of Europe. You don't actually need to buy that "extra" as you are covered automatically under the Green Card Zone which provides the legal minimum insurance in the country that you are visiting. This varies from only third party injury to third party injury and damage - it will not cover you for comprehensive cover unless you buy the "extra" cover from your insurer. If you can cope with the idea of maybe losing your vehicle in an accident ...........???
 
I'd explore the house/van swap option a bit more, plenty of people like the idea of wintering somewhere else. Plenty of websites with swaps wanted. Its certainly the best and cheapest option.

I should add something about insurance that I had forgotten - UK insurers do issue Green Cards with all vehicle insurance, they then gouge you to pay an extra premium when you want to go travelling in the rest of Europe. You don't actually need to buy that "extra" as you are covered automatically under the Green Card Zone which provides the legal minimum insurance in the country that you are visiting. This varies from only third party injury to third party injury and damage - it will not cover you for comprehensive cover unless you buy the "extra" cover from your insurer. If you can cope with the idea of maybe losing your vehicle in an accident ...........???

Hmm the insurance stuff is scaring me - I don't think I'd be comfortable without having comprehensive insurance. But the house/van swap sounds awesome, we'd be totally keen. Will have a look for some websites :)
 
I'd be sceptical about claims that ownership and registration and insurance of european registered vehicles by non europeans is easy. In my experience it is pretty much impossible except by using an eu citizen or company as a proxy
 
I have sent 2 inquiries on your behalf

1 To a small motorhome dealership in Kent.

2 To my insurers

I will pm you the replies
 
As Tony Lee suggests.. Insurance is a problem

1 To a small motorhome dealership in Kent.

2 To my insurers

I will pm you the replies

Reply from Comfort
Good Morning,
They would have to be a UK resident for at least 2 years in order for us to insure them
 
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Hi not sure now what was said but met a couple from NZ that where traveling Europe in a English motor home that they had purchased new in UK and where planning to ship it home after their trip. They mentioned that much easier in UK that Europe as no visa needed for UK I Think
 
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Hi not sure now what was said but met a couple from NZ that where traveling Europe in a English motor home that they had purchased new in UK and where planning to ship it home after their trip. They mentioned that much easier in UK that Europe as no visa needed for UK I Think

They used a NZ insurance agent/company
 
They used a NZ insurance agent/company

Yes maybe the case I do Remember they say easier to buy in UK than Europe we never spoke of insurance. I have met Australians traveling with UK reg motorhomes I expect there's a answer on a NZ , Aus website
 
Really appreciate all your help guys. It's turning out to be a lot more difficult than we thought. I have found a company in France that will help you buy and register a MH legally. On another note I posted a similar question on trip advisor and got lots of replies re: visa issues and the 90 day limit in Europe which is also good to know. So we're now looking at new routes with the inclusion of non-schengen states e.g. Croatia. Feeling a little deflated though... will keep researching : )
 
Ah, actually, apart from the extensive perks we Aussies have regarding getting around the schengen agreement to the extent that we could easily spend forever just in Europe and UK and Ireland without even bothering with morocco and turkey and other eastern europe non-schengen countries because of grandfathered treaties with Germany, Scandinavia, Holland and a few others going back to just after the war and that are still in effect, New Zealand has an even better deal. Nearly all Shengen countries allow Kiwis to stay in their country for three months regardless of the stupid 3-month-in-total schengen allowance. Needs a little attention to detail in retaining fuel receipts and ferry tickets and you might have to bash the odd ignorant immigration officer over the head with the bundle of rolled up treaties to get them to agree, but it is doable. Provided you are both New Zealanders, the Schengen thing is not a factor. Even if it was, you can spend 6 months in the UK, three months through ?? in Europe, cross to Morocco for three months, then another three months in Europe followed by three months in Turkey and then there are the delightful Balkan countries that aren't in the schengen area and what about Russia and even Iran which does need a Carnet for your vehicle, but unlike the poor Brits and americans, can be visited without needing a guide to tag along. And then there is Ireland - maybe 3 or 6 months and not part of schengen.

As for UK vehicles, There is at least one UK company that will insure foreigners without having a clean license for two years as seems to be the case with most UK insurers. We owned a UK vehicle in South America using a British postal address and it was an easy procedure done by mail.

We bought our Europe motorhome - one year old with 15,000 on the clock - in Germany 6 years ago and most years spend 3 to 6 months in greater Europe. The company we bought it from stores it for us in their yard and registers and insures and TUVs it ready for when we get there and cancels it all when we leave. The savings in rental fees have paid for it three times over and it is good for a few more years yet.

Don't give up as it is all quite doable and we have done similar deals in the USA and South America.

Just one little trick. Many airlines get quite thingy about complying with international rules regarding having to have return tickets. Qantas is particularly paranoid and it has taken all of my considerably BS skills to get past their checkin counters - although if you fly business or first class they don't seem to care so much - so to get around them easily you need to book a cross-channel ferry ticket for say two months after you arrive. Print it out and then cancel the purchase (or if there is a cooling off period or fee-free cancellation that is even better) That way you have a ticket out of the country and then the Oz carrier will lose interest.
 
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nz contact

Hi i was going to sent motorhome to NZ ,last year and was using a guy called Paul.

He imports and deals with uk garages.it might be useful to give him a call ,he's very helpfull.

Hope this is of help and good luck with it all. paul@castle-european.com +64 7 5481112

Cris.
 

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