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I think the Unimog is the dream truck for many. Of those lucky enough to get one, many end up disappointed, even the latest ones are no where near as nice to drive as modern trucks.
If you spend 99% of the time in mud, looking for tarmac, they are perfect. If you spend 99% of the time on tarmac and tracks looking for mud, they are far from ideal.
Up to 7 tonnes the Iveco Daily is pretty much the perfect truck, will go pretty much anywhere a Unimog will go, much cheaper, lighter and nicer on the road and has all you need off the shelf. You'll have to send a Crafter or Sprinter away for modification to get them anywhere close to the Iveco.
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I will second that.
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mark61 said:
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I think the Unimog is the dream truck for many. Of those lucky enough to get one, many end up disappointed, even the latest ones are no where near as nice to drive as modern trucks.
If you spend 99% of the time in mud, looking for tarmac, they are perfect. If you spend 99% of the time on tarmac and tracks looking for mud, they are far from ideal.
Up to 7 tonnes the Iveco Daily is pretty much the perfect truck, will go pretty much anywhere a Unimog will go, much cheaper, lighter and nicer on the road and has all you need off the shelf. You'll have to send a Crafter or Sprinter away for modification to get them anywhere close to the Iveco.
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The build quality of Iveco vehicles is shocking. Not to mention after sales. A friend had recently taken them to court and won over the quality of their vehicles. Much rather have the quality of a Merc or VW over off road capability that in the real world is rarely used.
 
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caledonia said:
The build quality of Iveco vehicles is shocking. Not to mention after sales. A friend had recently taken them to court and won over the quality of their vehicles. Much rather have the quality of a Merc or VW over off road capability that in the real world is rarely used.
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I can certainly vouch for Merc. Been driving them for 25 years. Apart from a gas mass sensor which I replaced myself, and is a consumable item never a problem. My current car has adblue issue, but then so has every other make. It drives fine, and the garage tells the computer the parts been replaced which fools it for about 6 months before the yellow engine light comes on. I sold a merc with 135,000 on the clock with original window wipers.
My next van will be a Ducato PVC. would have loved a sprinter but to heavy with low payload, and the one I fancied was only two berth. Wildax Elara.

 
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I can certainly vouch for Merc. Been driving them for 25 years. Apart from a gas mass sensor which I replaced myself, and is a consumable item never a problem. My current car has adblue issue, but then so has every other make. It drives fine, and the garage tells the computer the parts been replaced which fools it for about 6 months before the yellow engine light comes on. I sold a merc with 135,000 on the clock with original window wipers.
My next van will be a Ducato PVC. would have loved a sprinter but to heavy with low payload, and the one I fancied was only two berth. Wildax Elara.

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Was about 25 years ago when Mercs went downhill, :p :ROFLMAO: ;)
 
When I was a courier I had two XLWB Sprinters, both bought with well over 500k on them, and sold with 750k plus, still running fine, the only issues I had with either was going into 2nd gear on both vans and both would always fail MOT on ball joints, but they fired up on the worst of mornings and ran fine all day, plenty of power, brakes were never that good fully loaded though, nice to drive. Hell of a van but you have to keep up to the paint, I always had a white nail varnish bottle in the van for any stone chips I noticed.
 
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When I was a courier I had two XLWB Sprinters, both bought with well over 500k on them, and sold with 750k plus, still running fine, the only issues I had with either was going into 2nd gear on both vans and both would always fail MOT on ball joints, but they fired up on the worst of mornings and ran fine all day, plenty of power, brakes were never that good fully loaded though, nice to drive. Hell of a van but you have to keep up to the paint, I always had a white nail varnish bottle in the van for any stone chips I noticed.
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I would have loved to be able to buy a PVC based on a sprinter. But what’s most important is the layout and spec. Unfortunately sprinters are heavy resulting in poor payload. The wildax Elara had only 220kg with a manual box and 180kg with an auto. But the cab layout was by far the best I have seen.
 
caledonia said:
The build quality of Iveco vehicles is shocking. Not to mention after sales. A friend had recently taken them to court and won over the quality of their vehicles. Much rather have the quality of a Merc or VW over off road capability that in the real world is rarely used.
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I think thats fair enough. Engine, drive train, axles and chassis are all as solid as you'll find on the Iveco, but you can certainly see where ££'s have been saved on all other stuff. Still, if you're in the market for a new Daily 4x4, you're also in the market for a VW or Merc with all the bells & whistles too, theres just more homework to do.
 
mark61 said:
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I think the Unimog is the dream truck for many. Of those lucky enough to get one, many end up disappointed, even the latest ones are no where near as nice to drive as modern trucks.
If you spend 99% of the time in mud, looking for tarmac, they are perfect. If you spend 99% of the time on tarmac and tracks looking for mud, they are far from ideal.
Up to 7 tonnes the Iveco Daily is pretty much the perfect truck, will go pretty much anywhere a Unimog will go, much cheaper, lighter and nicer on the road and has all you need off the shelf. You'll have to send a Crafter or Sprinter away for modification to get them anywhere close to the Iveco.
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Not forgetting that if one wishes, one may load whatever luxury caravan/survival pod onto the back of the Iveco flatbed & when the proper off-roading has shaken it to pieces, discard it & secure a newer/used caravan onto the bed...it's an extension, modernisation, upgrade to the motorised home... . 2, 5, 7 birth, double, triple, single beds, bunks, hammocks, panoramic stargazing roofs, wildlife hides, oh what versatility...so pleased with my Iveco Daily 5.5 tonne & these options are always present.... .
...now if I had an Iveco Dakar truck (Kamaz out of favour in this present climate).
 
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