Occupational hazards of Wild Camping

Specialist Knowledge / Information

Hi Channa,
Your advice and knowledge is very welcome and I do strongly urge you to keep posting your specialist subject as I am sure that most of us will pay attention and would like to know what is and is not lawful:)
You state that I and others may be interpreting the rules in our own way. Rules are rules and there are no interpretations and I am not!
It is very useful knowing the rules as I and others then know when we are taking a risk, hopefully a calculated risk:) and not fool hardy:eek:
But please remember, you can lead a horse to the water but you can't make it drink:D
Thank you and please keep posting your knowledge:)

Hi, I too think that you should continue to post what you know so that those of us who are interested can have the facts and rules as they stand in law.

I took from your post that you were giving us a defence if in fact we found that we were in a sticky position re: DIC and that the police were the ones who potentially would most likely mess up if we had the knowledge you provided us with to back us up

A big THANK YOU from me for providing me with a defence should I ever need it, as I'm with ***** and like a bottle of wine with dinner :D hiccup :D and hubby likes a couple of beers or three :D

Chrissy
 
Thank you for your support Chrissy, It seems you have taken my post in the spirit intended.

And thank you to *****, he too seems to understand my intentions were honourable too.

I dont have a problem when people disagree with the law, we are all entitled to an opinion.

channa
 
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I have given an opinion in order to assist and inform.

If you or anyone else decides to interpret your own rules, I really dont have a problem ..thats not new In fact in the past helped me pay my mortgage!!

Channa

You are contradicting Yourself now!
 
:D Ain't been a boy for a long time but pucker up auld yin!:eek::D
 
Not been on here for a while.

Wow, what a strange thread.

What's with the zillion posts with smileys - to post ONE sentence?

And then the guy says "I anint been a boy (child) for a long time".

Jeezo!
 
Well I found the original post very helpfull (the bits I understood) anymore will be wecomed by me.
 
Well I found the original post very helpfull (the bits I understood) anymore will be wecomed by me.


So did I. In fact I thought it might be useful to compose a list of questions.

Well, I won't do that but I do have one question. It's a straightforward question about off-street parking orders but, unfortunately, it needs a bit of background information first.

So first:Council powerless to ban camper vans (From Bournemouth Echo)

Two years ago, I had to visit Ilfracombe Family Stuff. I had to be there. And I got a ticket, issued at midnight – and I disputed it.

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Offence 11 is a ban on cooking, camping, sleeping. I threw all sorts of things at the council, officials creeping about at midnight, they would have to prove I was in the van were two of the things but mainly I relied on tellng them that they would have to prove in court they truly did have the power to issue an Excess Charge Notice in these circumstances. I used that newspaper article as proof that coucils were capable of telling lies to the public to get their own way – and they would jolly well have to prove they weren't fibbing.

I had a genuine rant. Even now, I find it a little hard to believe that councils will deliberately lie to tax-payers and I can't understand why lcoal residents, both for and against campervans, werem't up in arms about their dishonest council.

The council cancelled the charge. Stupidly, I didn't ask why they had cancelled it. Don't forget this wasn't the only thing I threw at them. So why did they cancel it? Will they tell me? Will they tell me all this time later? I know, I should demanded to know at the time. But are they compelled to tell me?

More important. Is this a blanket thing? Were powers transferred to councils on an individual basis? OR, now clutching at straws, were powers transferred by Central Government and councils truly don't have the power to ban, eg, sleeping in vehicles. Common sense seems to dictate that so long as your vehicle is legal in all respects, it is nobody's business what goes on in that vehicle.

I'm not interested in other reasons why you might sleep. Road safety, fatigue management, anything else.

Just this one. Do councils have the powers they say they have? Was control of parking handed to councils individually and this particular council simply made a mistake in what they wanted to enforce or was control handed as a blanket thing with the same powers to all councils? In which, my preferred case, none of them have power to enforce cooking, camping, sleeping.

I was, of course, not guilty on this occasion.

So there you are Channa. A genuine, possibly extremely useful, query for you.

Tom
 

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