NYCC are readvertising their ban on overnight Motorhome Parking

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Debs said:
If Joe Bloggs or his missus can park their Range Rover, or Reliant Robin, or whatever vehicle, anywhere public, as long as they are not causing an obstruction, then for them that have the power to say that I can't park because I might sleep in it, is to me, Blatent discrimination and misuse of their powers! I pay my road tax, my vehicle has an MOT certificate, and I am insured. So with me it's business as usual, well it will be when the weather gets a tad warmer so that I can get on with my conversion.:camper:
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Remember this ban only applies 23:00 to 06:00. If the vehicle is not occupied there are grounds for thinking this is discriminatory. The ban on cooking and sleeping applies at any time in any vehicle.
 
Debs said:
If Joe Bloggs or his missus can park their Range Rover, or Reliant Robin, or whatever vehicle, anywhere public, as long as they are not causing an obstruction, then for them that have the power to say that I can't park because I might sleep in it, is to me, Blatent discrimination and misuse of their powers! I pay my road tax, my vehicle has an MOT certificate, and I am insured. So with me it's business as usual, well it will be when the weather gets a tad warmer so that I can get on with my conversion.:camper:
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Give me a shout if you want someone to hold the nail whilst you hit it.... :hammer:

It's can be hard work doing a conversion single handed and an extra pair of hands can make all the difference, I'd be happy to help. I'm in Penrith at some point most weeks and it's just another 25 mins up the road from there for me :drive:
 
whitevanwoman said:
So my next question is: why bother banning class M1 motorcaravans, if they are banning the activities? - surely by not allowing these certain activities regardless of class of vehicle, there is no need to specifically ban motorcaravans.
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Precisely there is no need to ban motor caravans. However. It is easier to pick out a Motor Caravan than to patrol looking for people sleeping in other vehicles. Also how do they prove you were sleeping, you were awake when you answered them (if you did). If you didn't answer how do they prove you were in there?
 
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whitevanwoman said:
Give me a shout if you want someone to hold the nail whilst you hit it.... :hammer:

It's can be hard work doing a conversion single handed and an extra pair of hands can make all the difference, I'd be happy to help. I'm in Penrith at some point most weeks and it's just another 25 mins up the road from there for me :drive:
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Waiting for a bit warmer weather, I'm not very good at doing cold! :baby:
 
There is a form on the council web site. I have just filled it in. There is space to make comments
 
eddyt said:
i was wilding at alnmouth in northumberland in the car park on the beach
in the morning the attendant came for the 3 pound charge and said you should not stay overnight
i said the camper vans bring trade to the village why chase it away.She said they are not bothered about the
extra trade as they are busy enough without it so i have not been back just take my money elsewhere
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I would have asked her when she had been appointed as the official spokes person for all the traders of Alnmouth ?
i wonder what the local traders think about the parking attendant telling people that they don't need extra trade
 
Respond

We have responded to NYCC by completing the questionnaire and commenting on the proposed prohibition, and urge everyone else to do same and remind them that we will spend our money elsewhere if this is passed.
 
helen262 said:
I would have asked her when she had been appointed as the official spokes person for all the traders of Alnmouth ?
i wonder what the local traders think about the parking attendant telling people that they don't need extra trade
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i might go back and ask the pub landlords if they have to mutch business
 
nycc and anyone else

Did my bit yesterday bout 6pm. We're getting really fed up womderin and lookin over our shoulders, would a petition to Dave ( p.m ) or maybe 38 degrees would sort this in the UK
We did the tour de France last year, eventually stayed in Leyburn...it was like being in a communist country, no parking on the mountains or you'll be towed away!.....it was just a chance to make a fast buck...topical of this country....won't be doing it here again!!

Maybe we could get the manufacturing side o f the industry on our side to act as a mouthpieces, or lobby that lot in Westminster? Why shouldn't the government support the industry and us as is the norm in France?
We have deffinatly got a. case here, all we need is a figerhead/ spokesman!!!!!

Maybe someone from 3ms or even motorhome clubs getting together??
Rant over. Regards to everyone Pam& col Marchhare
 
I did over a week wild-camping around that area last November (lovely and peaceful ). I completed their questionnaire. I politely stated that it is a great shame I'm not welcome so I'll just spend my money elsewhere.

TBH though, if they do pass these silly laws they have to enforce them, arrive late leave early still works for me. As for cooking or sleeping during the day well, catch me if you can lol :)
 
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marchhare said:
Did my bit yesterday bout 6pm. We're getting really fed up womderin and lookin over our shoulders, would a petition to Dave ( p.m ) or maybe 38 degrees would sort this in the UK
We did the tour de France last year, eventually stayed in Leyburn...it was like being in a communist country, no parking on the mountains or you'll be towed away!.....it was just a chance to make a fast buck...topical of this country....won't be doing it here again!!

Maybe we could get the manufacturing side o f the industry on our side to act as a mouthpieces, or lobby that lot in Westminster? Why shouldn't the government support the industry and us as is the norm in France?
We have deffinatly got a. case here, all we need is a figerhead/ spokesman!!!!!

Maybe someone from 3ms or even motorhome clubs getting together??
Rant over. Regards to everyone Pam& col Marchhare
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There have been many petitions to government on these issues. Every one receives the same reply. It is nothing to do with central government you need to take this up with the local authority (or words to that effect).

In France it was a joint body of clubs (Comité de liaison du camping-car) and the manufactures/dealers (Syndicat des constructeurs) that got the Aires system established.
It was for this reason we set up The Motorhome Tourism Organisation to be a body to represent Motorhome users. We have also requested the trade to back us and Travelworld Motorhomes (The importer for Hymer Group) and Danbury Motor Caravans have backed us. UK Motorhomes.net has also backed us and was active from the start. We would welcome backing from all of the other forums and other dealers/manufacturers. We do not charge but do have a donation system for anyone who wishes to back us financially.

The MCC has been approached in the past and the Group in NI actually supported the Motorhome Association over there to successfully obtain Aires. However this co-operation has now broken down and Motorhoming Ireland has taken over the reigns. The Motorhome Association website was allowed to drop and Motorhome Tourism has acguired it. The mainland MCC seems only interested in Rallies, THC and a small CL network. The bigger clubs are financial driven and do not want competition by way of Aires. The National Caravan Council (NCC) represents the trade, but when approached simply replied that we could join at a very high fee every year but otherwise offered no support.

MMM have been approached as has Practical Motorhome with no response.

The Motorhome Tourism Organisation has contacted every local authority under Freedom of Information legislation and obtained replies to a questionnaire about provision for motorhome parking. From this we have established contacts and are in discussions with some authorities. We have also responded to consultations regarding TROs and Bylaws.

We have been making some progress, however the stronger the body of support and the more hands to assist in the work would be welcome.
 
There is a major error in the documentation for Cayton, Filey, Sandsend and Whitby. You have to read it carefully to spot it.
 
would be interested to know how many members do send an objection in ( i have even though the areas are not really places i visit) .
 
rebbyvid said:
would be interested to know how many members do send an objection in ( i have even though the areas are not really places i visit) .
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Did send an objection this morning but sad to say imho it's already done and dusted and will happen.
I will just head up to Scotland as usual, less hassle better scenery etc, etc.
 
Objection submitted

I've been on and made my objections and offered up some constructed feedback on how to improve facilities or matter with in the current setup. I suggested enforcing a limit on the number of nights people can stop - I can see this being the main issue as some folk do "set up camp" in some of the places and I also offered the idea of Aires to them.

Here is the link if you haven't submitted your comments yet Motor caravan consultation - North Yorkshire County Council

:goodluck:
 
Thanks to the OP for the hard work on these issues. I've sent my views via the link. Probably have no effect on these people, but you can only try.
 
I completed it too, but I must admit to thinking it a total waste of time. :(
 
Filed my objection

Here's my email, sent today:

Dear Sirs,

I wish to voice my objection to your proposed parking discrimination against a particular vehicle class.
In addition to offering self-contained facilities, motor caravans are transport vehicles and are taxed to use the UK road network accordingly. I believe that they should therefore be afforded the same rights and privileges as all other taxed transport vehicles, subject to relevant weight and width restriction criteria where necessary.
I find it very disappointing that your organisation seeks to banish motor caravans from places of interest, rather than embracing this valuable source of tourism income for the local businesses. I would urge you to take a look at the established Aire de Camping Car model in France as an example of how this income stream can be channelled to your businesses, rather than forced out into more welcoming areas elsewhere.

Yours faithfully,
Mr J Cooper
 
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