No overnight parking and the BIG SOCIETY

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I have just fleshed out the PM's "Big Society" concept and made my first positive contribution.

I ignored the unnecessary bureaucratic contribution to the posting of a "No overnight parking" sign in favour of a more uplifting and reinvigorating future for us all. I parked overnight and ignored it.

The following morning I took out an adjustable spanner and removed the sign from the post, it only took 30 seconds, if I had taken my tin snips I could have cut the belt tie in 3 seconds.

Shocked at my action (I am 62 by the way), I took the large aluminium sign and recycled it at a nearby car park in the aluminium recycling bin.

This way I have helped myself and others like myself as well as contributing much needed materials to the far more important need of the planet to recycle scarce resources and save earth.

I feel great :)

I suggest you try it too.
 
you young tearaway !! I am glad to see you did recycle

Well done
Rob
 
We have all felt like doing it. We have all thought about doing it so to condemn you for doing it would be hypocrisy. Therefore all I can say is well done that man;):)
 
Great thinking - no sign, no offence committed.

Excellent - more power to your spanner.:cool:
 
Oh dear, oh dear. Now I know why there are fewer and fewer places available for us to legitimately stop.
 
Good on you Michaelu just what i would do at 74 i could not care less

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I have just fleshed out the PM's "Big Society" concept and made my first positive contribution.

I ignored the unnecessary bureaucratic contribution to the posting of a "No overnight parking" sign in favour of a more uplifting and reinvigorating future for us all. I parked overnight and ignored it.

The following morning I took out an adjustable spanner and removed the sign from the post, it only took 30 seconds, if I had taken my tin snips I could have cut the belt tie in 3 seconds.

Shocked at my action (I am 62 by the way), I took the large aluminium sign and recycled it at a nearby car park in the aluminium recycling bin.

This way I have helped myself and others like myself as well as contributing much needed materials to the far more important need of the planet to recycle scarce resources and save earth.

I feel great :)

I suggest you try it too.
 
Come on John H have you never felt the need to stick two fingers up at authority.:p

Richard
 
I'm not sure what to think on this one. Normally it's the youngsters that have not been brainwashed by our fear driven judicial system. The elders normally cave in to rules and regulations. Strictly speaking it's theft but since I have commited mant crimes and proud of it then I guess now I'm 2 minutes from first reading the post I guess it must be OK.

After all it was put there by a hypocrital, double standards, theiving, over paid and money grabbing council in the first place.
 
It's true. We are a cowed and frightened society. However, look at this

MORE than 90 per cent of Medway motorists who challenged parking tickets were successful, according to a national tribunal.

I've no idea how many of the docile paid their fines without complaint but in this particular area 90% of those who did complain won their case.

I took on a council and told the tale of it here. http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/forums/general-chat/11681-long-mysterious-tale.html

I won. The council backed down, changed their signs and we now have another place we can safely park overnight. And yet... And yet... Threr were plentywho said that I would spoil it for the rest of us. Well, I didn't. I made it better.

The more of us who challenge these people the better.

Say to them as I did, reasonably, "I think you are wrong. I will require you to prove to a court that you have the right to impose this rule." When I did it the council backed down and removed the threat of a penalty from their notices.
 
you are right it is about time we started to challenge these pepole

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It's true. We are a cowed and frightened society. However, look at this

MORE than 90 per cent of Medway motorists who challenged parking tickets were successful, according to a national tribunal.

I've no idea how many of the docile paid their fines without complaint but in this particular area 90% of those who did complain won their case.

I took on a council and told the tale of it here. http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/forums/general-chat/11681-long-mysterious-tale.html

I won. The council backed down, changed their signs and we now have another place we can safely park overnight. And yet... And yet... Threr were plentywho said that I would spoil it for the rest of us. Well, I didn't. I made it better.

The more of us who challenge these people the better.

Say to them as I did, reasonably, "I think you are wrong. I will require you to prove to a court that you have the right to impose this rule." When I did it the council backed down and removed the threat of a penalty from their notices.[/QU
 
question is ...was there any legality in banning overnight there anyway ; what was the reason for trying to take away our rights?
 
After all it was put there by a hypocrital, double standards, theiving, over paid and money grabbing council in the first place.

And removed by a hypocritical, double standards, thieving lawbreaker.

Guess that makes it OK does it.
 
question is ...was there any legality in banning overnight there anyway ; what was the reason for trying to take away our rights?

The right to occupy your motorhome "for human habitation" in any location other than a campsite was removed initially in 1937 then reinforced in 1960.

Except for a few exemptions, it is against the law for a landowner, to permit the stationment of a caravan (includes a motorhome) for human habitation, unless they hold a site licence.

The only exemptions from holding a site licence are The Crown, Dutchy of Cornwall and Lancaster and Government departments. Local authorities have an exemption for land within their area.

So in effect you have no right to live, eat, or sleep in a caravan/motorhome except on a licenced camp site in the UK.

John
 
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And removed by a hypocritical, double standards, thieving lawbreaker.

Guess that makes it OK does it.

Well said. This is precisely the point. I am willing to bet that many if not all of those who have applauded this action would be first in line to complain about eveything from "illegal immigrants coming here and taking our jobs" to "rowdy youth covering bus shelters with grafitti". If you start picking and choosing which laws you obey, where does it end and how have you any right to complain when others break different laws?

It is true that some of those signs are not backed up by regulations and so they can be challenged in court (as in the example of Medway) but many others are backed up by regulations and if you want to challenge those that aren't, the courts are the place to do it.

As for whether local authorities have the right to issue parking regulations and enforce them, the annswer is Yes. Take a look at Part 6 of the 2004 Traffic Management Act or the 2007 Civil Enforcement of Parking Contravention (England) General Regulations.
 
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