No Motorhome Parking

[Deleted member 967]

I have contacted every local authority regarding Motorhome Parking. The only lawful sign is sign R which is authorised by the secretary for state for use by all English local authorities.



The only way to determine if a Traffic Regulation Order is in place is to contact the local authority.

Some authorities have admitted erecting signs that are not backed by a TRO and which do not comply with the Traffic Sign Design Guidance Regulations TSDGR.

There is a principal in UK law that says The individual can do anything that is not forbidden by law and Government (including Local Authorities) can only do that which is permitted by law.

 

[Allen]

Having been told how nice a place Porthcawl is to visit, I had intended spending a few days there this week.
A check on google street view .... And there are signs "No caravans or motorcaravans 11pm - 7am" along the full length of the sea front.

Needless to say.......I'll spend mi money elsewhere.

 

[fofeg101]

The general public don't like motorhomes over nighting and trying to ban them gives the local busy body councillors a chance to score brownie points, and earn the expenses they claim.

 

[Tbear]

The general public don't like motorhomes over nighting and trying to ban them gives the local busy body councillors a chance to score brownie points, and earn the expenses they claim.

With more and more Motorhomes being sold I am guessing that the public are going to get more and more fed-up with the way some idiot owners behave. It can only be so long before central government gets involved. With the press we are getting, I doubt they will react in our favour. Unless you live near a ferry port I would not spend all my money on a new one at present.

Richard

 

[vwalan]

Having been told how nice a place Porthcawl is to visit, I had intended spending a few days there this week.
A check on google street view .... And there are signs "No caravans or motorcaravans 11pm - 7am" along the full length of the sea front.

Needless to say.......I'll spend mi money elsewhere.

i must say parking along sea fronts and places like that are exactly what gets up folks nose,s. just move a few streets back and you can be left alone . many end up putting tables and chairs out along the esplanades and that again mess,s it up for the rest.
every town village in uk as places we can use ,we just have to blend in not stand out.
always have a look around there is always somewhere discreet to stay.

 

[alcam]

i must say parking along sea fronts and places like that are exactly what gets up folks nose,s. just move a few streets back and you can be left alone . many end up putting tables and chairs out along the esplanades and that again mess,s it up for the rest.
every town village in uk as places we can use ,we just have to blend in not stand out.
always have a look around there is always somewhere discreet to stay.

I think this is the problem . There are quite a few places in France that are no-go areas because they have been spoiled by packs of [mostly] French motorhomers taking over town and village centres . Not knocking the various 'meets' organised on here but , if they are held in what may be regarded as 'sensitive' areas , it will cause problems for the rest of us .
I constantly read of various towns and counties that we cannot overnight in , when you park sensibly I find , usually , there is no problem

 

[maureenandtom]

These last few posts reflecd a thread I started a few years ago and I've been prompted to go back and look for some of the references I quoted then. One in particular stuck in my mind and ... I can get at it but I can't seem to get the links - though they're there. If you google something like "Motorhome and their value to Tasmanian Tourism" and "Sustainability of the motrohome and self-contained vehicle market" then you might get to the same doucuments.

The Tasmanian Document makes this quotation and it is this I remembered.

While some West Coast residents have been critical of motorhome travellers, it may
be equally valid to suggest that when towns choose not to provide appropriate
facilities, they cannot reasonably expect these visitors to comply with perceived
expectations!

The growth in motorhome registrations we've seen and commented on recently, I think, makes a case for more provision by councils - not the greater repressions we're seeing more and more often.

Though the peak seasons might be difficult to cope with no matter what provision is made.

 

[Deleted user 48797]

I'm annoyed at being treated like a leper because I have spent many thousand of pounds on a van and have to scuttle around the country like a door mouse trying not to upset the establishment. If you chose a caravan then fine you're well catered for but I don't want to be herded into a stalag 3 site miles from anywhere with limited transport or a long walk just to spend some money in the local community or visit a place of interest. Other european countries have provision where both leisure systems are well catered for whether you have a caravan or motorhome. I suspect that the big clubs are lobbying against free movement with motorhomes to save their vested interests and I sincerely wish for their demise in the near future as they raise their prices and introduce even more draconian measures during 'lock up' time. Meanwhile I urge you all to spend £50 on a ferry ticket and go abroad where grown up governments react to and welcome campers of all types to come and visit and spend their money. Since I bought a van I frequently feel unwelcome in my own country so I choose to take as much money as I can abroad and get out of Rip Off Britain as often as possible.
... and breath.... rant over.
Bd..

 

[Tompa]

I understand how motorhomers feel about the lack of facilities provided by councils and the interference from jobsworths and twisty gits. However the government wont even provide enough money for the disabled to be looked after properly so motorhomers needs are going well down the priority list of councils.
Tompa

 

[Canalsman]

The meets organised by this site all take place on private land with the owner's permission.

In the case of a very large meet, such as Orkney next month, a camp site is used.

 

[maureenandtom]

I understand how motorhomers feel about the lack of facilities provided by councils and the interference from jobsworths and twisty gits. However the government wont even provide enough money for the disabled to be looked after properly so motorhomers needs are going well down the priority list of councils.
Tompa

But many of them feel well able to spend thousands on sometimes unlawful restrictions. Most of us don't want extra facilities if they would only leave off introducing unnecessary and expensive no overnighting signs especially those with no lawful backing.

 

[paul and jennie]

I'm annoyed at being treated like a leper because I have spent many thousand of pounds on a van and have to scuttle around the country like a door mouse trying not to upset the establishment. If you chose a caravan then fine you're well catered for but I don't want to be herded into a stalag 3 site miles from anywhere with limited transport or a long walk just to spend some money in the local community or visit a place of interest. Other european countries have provision where both leisure systems are well catered for whether you have a caravan or motorhome. I suspect that the big clubs are lobbying against free movement with motorhomes to save their vested interests and I sincerely wish for their demise in the near future as they raise their prices and introduce even more draconian measures during 'lock up' time. Meanwhile I urge you all to spend £50 on a ferry ticket and go abroad where grown up governments react to and welcome campers of all types to come and visit and spend their money. Since I bought a van I frequently feel unwelcome in my own country so I choose to take as much money as I can abroad and get out of Rip Off Britain as often as possible.
... and breath.... rant over.
Bd..

CANT SAY IT ANY BETTER:scooter::scooter:
Just want to park in my van the same as i can with my car its not hurting anyone apart from ones with nothing better to do

 

[Goggles]

i must say parking along sea fronts and places like that are exactly what gets up folks nose,s. just move a few streets back and you can be left alone . many end up putting tables and chairs out along the esplanades and that again mess,s it up for the rest.
every town village in uk as places we can use ,we just have to blend in not stand out.
always have a look around there is always somewhere discreet to stay.

If I go to the coast I go because I like to park on the front if I possibly can not have to find a back street to park in. However, if there are houses along the front I try to park in a space where I`m not obstructing anyone's view. That`s not always possible though. The coastline and view isn`t exclusive to the local residents......it belongs to us all. :ninja:

 

[vwalan]

yes your right . but it does seem they can take it away from you.
years ago or even today the odd van parking wasnt any trouble . these days its got that 10-15 are there and people dont like it .
there still are places that fit the good place for parking but busy places i say take a step back and we can go again .

 

[alcam]

i must say parking along sea fronts and places like that are exactly what gets up folks nose,s. just move a few streets back and you can be left alone . many end up putting tables and chairs out along the esplanades and that again mess,s it up for the rest.
every town village in uk as places we can use ,we just have to blend in not stand out.
always have a look around there is always somewhere discreet to stay.

If I go to the coast I go because I like to park on the front if I possibly can not have to find a back street to park in. However, if there are houses along the front I try to park in a space where I`m not obstructing anyone's view. That`s not always possible though. The coastline and view isn`t exclusive to the local residents......it belongs to us all. :ninja:

Sorry I think your attitude is the problem . Personally I think it's rude to park in front of somebody's house . Even assuming you were right your way of doing things is just screwing it up for the rest of us

 

[Ginge3685]

over nighting

Hi everyone im new to posting on here
I was just wondering if anyone has challenged any authorities about the signs that seem to be going up more and more places
Im only asking as i pay road tax on my van the same as all road users and it is legal for me to sleep in my van so how can they put up the signs saying no overnight if i have a van but can sleep in a car truck or bus i cant work it out how this can be done im just a bit miffed off as ive drove around most of the weekend and seen in total of 7 different wild camping places now with the signs
SORRY FOR THE RANT:mad1::mad1::mad1::mad1:

I can't understand it either...we go to a beach in cornwall small carpark right on the beach you can buy a 24 hour ticket but there are signs that state no camping overnight. If you can't stay overnight why sell 24 hour tickets? Plus point we have never in 2 years been moved on and a parking attendant did tell us we couldn't stay over night....... as if he was going to check up at midnight.....lol

 

[vwalan]

I can't understand it either...we go to a beach in cornwall small carpark right on the beach you can buy a 24 hour ticket but there are signs that state no camping overnight. If you can't stay overnight why sell 24 hour tickets? Plus point we have never in 2 years been moved on and a parking attendant did tell us we couldn't stay over night....... as if he was going to check up at midnight.....lol

so park . have nothing outside . dont use leveling ramps etc . no awnings etc .thats parking . sleeping inside is not camping . neither is cooking or eating .

 

[Deleted member 53880]

in falmouth [born and bred]there was a anti motorhome seafront parking thread in the local online rag last year and in the comments it turned out that most locals didnt mind it and some did it themselves,generally i reckon it's the councils just pandering to a vocal minority of busybodies,all the best.jan

 

[vwalan]

in falmouth [born and bred]there was a anti motorhome seafront parking thread in the local online rag last year and in the comments it turned out that most locals didnt mind it and some did it themselves,generally i reckon it's the councils just pandering to a vocal minority of busybodies,all the best.jan

falmouth as been a hit or miss place for years . along the front at gyllynvase was ok then not . pendennis sometimes ok others not .along the cliffs by falmouth hotel possibly. the carpark by trago was at one time . swanpool on /off .
my gran lived at swanpool its always been a funny area . even way back in the 70,s . nice place though .

 

[Allen]

If I go to the coast I go because I like to park on the front if I possibly can not have to find a back street to park in. However, if there are houses along the front I try to park in a space where I`m not obstructing anyone's view. That`s not always possible though. The coastline and view isn`t exclusive to the local residents......it belongs to us all. :ninja:

Exactly!
These houses on the sea front are mostly guest houses....and there lies the problem.
Their mentality tells them they are loosing business by allowing motor homes to park on their (not) road.
Back to Porthcawl .... I can park outside said guest house all day, but come 11pm I have to leave.
It won't happen.
My money will be spent elsewhere.

The guest house owners feel gratified.
The local council has secured re election.
The small businesses are the looses..
The chippy won't get my fiver. The pub won't get a sale of a couple of pints and evening meal...etc.

These places do really need to look again....