No Motorhome Parking

[Tbear]

Exactly!
These houses on the sea front are mostly guest houses....and there lies the problem.
Their mentality tells them they are loosing business by allowing motor homes to park on their (not) road.
Back to Porthcawl .... I can park outside said guest house all day, but come 11pm I have to leave.
It won't happen.
My money will be spent elsewhere.

The guest house owners feel gratified.
The local council has secured re election.
The small businesses are the looses..
The chippy won't get my fiver. The pub won't get a sale of a couple of pints and evening meal...etc.

These places do really need to look again....

I am beginning to sympathise more and more with some of the locals complaints but it does seem daft to let you block the view and parking space all day until nobody wants it and then insist that you move on???

Richard

 

[maureenandtom]

I am beginning to sympathise more and more with some of the locals complaints but it does seem daft to let you block the view and parking space all day until nobody wants it and then insist that you move on???

Richard

Spot on, Richard. It's because it's easy for the council - they think. Time and again it has been shown their easiest route has now become not so easy. Mainly due to the Freedom of Information Act - not so easy for their lies to go undetected now. And for people now to gain access to other information through the internet. Example: It's not so easy for the council to lie - nor to quote law which anybody nowadays can look up for themselves.

The normal procedure is for a Councillor with a financial interest (Andrew Backhouse in N Yorks, Louise Parkinson in Burnham on Sea, Colin Davey (anecdotal evidence only about Colin) in Lincolnshire), and so it goes on) to begin complaining that motorhomers are a social nuisance; usually by trying to create outrage by calling us freeloaders who leave all our waste (including toilet waste) on the street. There never is a problem and the hundreds of complaints the council tell us of turn out not to exist. The council then says the evidence is anecdotal but it's still there - just not documented or recorded but they remember there have been lots of them.

Then the council says it needs an overnight ban because of some other reason - something easy, something which will be popular; like maybe to protect the amenities around the area where we might park overnight. The amenity protection then amounts to protection of a a sea view. It doesn't occur to them to wonder who wants to see the sea view at night or even to wonder what view is visible in the darkness.

This article in a local on-line newspaper

North Yorks Enquirer SBC: Firing Blanks? North Yorks Enquirer

Here's the link for the outandaboutlive article.

Motorhome parking wars continue - Motorhome News - New & Used Motorhome & Campervan Reviews - Out and About Live

 

[Tbear]

Too many people with too many agendas and as they say "first casualty in a war is the truth". The sooner central government gets involved the better. Wind a few necks in then. I am sure that we will not come out smelling of roses but at least we will have something to work with rather than a council official who is very sorry because all your emails seem to have been removed by his spam filter :mad2:

Richard

 

[Goggles]

Sorry I think your attitude is the problem . Personally I think it's rude to park in front of somebody's house . Even assuming you were right your way of doing things is just screwing it up for the rest of us

How can my attitude be a problem? Is the public highway now exclusive to local residents as well as the view? Is it any less rude to park in a side street possibly in front of someones house than along the front? I meet with enough height barriers stopping me from parking in the car parks so I`ll park where I can. I`m not going to drive around all day trying to find an unobtrusive parking space that could be miles from where I want to be. You can if you like but I`m not. Why should I have my enjoyment spoiled?
About 2 years ago I parked along the front at Hunstanton. A bloke came out of a house opposite and asked me if I`d got my gas on as it could be construed that I was `camping` if I had. I replied that my gas was always on as I have an underslung tank. Anyway to keep the peace I decided to move. No sooner had I pulled out than a much taller and longer m/h pulled into the now vacant space and he wasn`t as courteous as me because he was still there 4 hours later.

 

[Asterix]

I'm annoyed at being treated like a leper because I have spent many thousand of pounds on a van and have to scuttle around the country like a door mouse trying not to upset the establishment. If you chose a caravan then fine you're well catered for but I don't want to be herded into a stalag 3 site miles from anywhere with limited transport or a long walk just to spend some money in the local community or visit a place of interest. Other european countries have provision where both leisure systems are well catered for whether you have a caravan or motorhome. I suspect that the big clubs are lobbying against free movement with motorhomes to save their vested interests and I sincerely wish for their demise in the near future as they raise their prices and introduce even more draconian measures during 'lock up' time. Meanwhile I urge you all to spend £50 on a ferry ticket and go abroad where grown up governments react to and welcome campers of all types to come and visit and spend their money. Since I bought a van I frequently feel unwelcome in my own country so I choose to take as much money as I can abroad and get out of Rip Off Britain as often as possible.
... and breath.... rant over.
Bd..

Completely agree with all of that,im currently parked at Cherbourg waiting to cross tomorrow,and now I've had my first season in Europe,i can only say I'm not looking forward to returning to the UK. I know I'll be spending the next few months skulking around feeling like a criminal,and when I do find a spot,the local idiots will be honking their horns or banging on the side of the van. As soon as I can I'll be returning to the natural home of the motorhome.....

 

[Tbear]

It wasn't posh when this impoverished pensioner took his grandkids last year. Best just drive straight through to Old Hunstanton. By the front I take it we are talking about the clifftop near the old lighthouse. Good spot for a picnic but can be a bit windy. Stuff the old goat. I would have stayed as many do but not overnight.

Richard

 

[antiquesam]

If you don't mind someone parking up outside your house for however many days you intend to park outside the home of someone else then fine, but I wouldn't want someone setting up home on the road outside my house so I won't do it to others. I am, however, in a car park in the middle of no where along the river Teign which has a sign saying " no fires, no camping, no overnight parking" which I am ignoring because I can't believe I'm upsetting anyone.

 

[Tbear]

A little common sense is required. On the clifftops at Hunstanton, it's a wide road and the parking is on the opposite side of the road to the houses. Several very large motorhomes would be need to block their view. It is a spot ideal for single larger vehicles to park with a large grassed area, perfect for picnics. That way you can put out table and chairs but away from your van. Many of the cars will have people having picnics so no one can complain. Google Maps

Its a bit different if you get a group of vans totally blocking the parking in the middle of town. We need to loose the mentality where if you see a van, then you need to park bag next to it.

Richard

 

[barryd]

A little common sense is required. On the clifftops at Hunstanton, it's a wide road and the parking is on the opposite side of the road to the houses. Several very large motorhomes would be need to block their view. It is a spot ideal for single larger vehicles to park with a large grassed area, perfect for picnics. That way you can put out table and chairs but away from your van. Many of the cars will have people having picnics so no one can complain. Google Maps

Its a bit different if you get a group of vans totally blocking the parking in the middle of town. We need to loose the mentality where if you see a van, then you need to park bag next to it.

Richard

I totally agree. Why do people do that? What bugs me is you find a wilding spot in a huge great area with loads of space and someone will come and park three feet away from you. :mad1::mad1:

The British need to lose their territorial leanings as well though. Ive seen aires in France in the middle of houses where nobody bats an eyelid. I even got directed onto a boules court once in a picturesque village in France by a local when we were looking for somewhere to stop.

 

[Tbear]

On my own and when I came back from a walk

 

[klaatu]

On my own and when I came back from a walk

To be fair, though, assuming that's a car park, they're just parking 'tidily' and optimising the space available for others. If I was parking, in a car park, I would probably do the same.

 

[alcam]

On my own and when I came back from a walk

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People are strange . I stayed at the carpark just outside Roussillon in Provence a while back . If anybody knows the place , it's about the size of a football stadium . 3 of us parked overnight well spread out . Following morning another motorhome arrived and parked 3 feet away from me .

 

[Sky]

Aaarrrgghhh! Nothing annoys me more. :mad1:

Why do it? Despite it possibly being 'tidy', it often means you can't get the bloody door open properly.

I have disabled stickers asking people to allow enough room for wheelchair access, but they still do it. :mad2:

I often put a no parking cone in the space next to me - that seems to work most of the time. There is always the arsehole that moves it though. I always leave a nice note thanking them for their consideration.

 

[barryd]

On my own and when I came back from a walk

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Yep thats the one! The car park is huge. You could park tidily at the other end!

Ive actually got in the van and moved myself in the past in those situations.

 

[vwalan]

perhaps your parking in a place they like to park. by parking close you move .
they get the place they wanted .
perhaps they hope you will drive off annoyed .

 

[Tbear]

perhaps your parking in a place they like to park. by parking close you move .
they get the place they wanted .
perhaps they hope you will drive off annoyed .

So I should apologise for parking in the wrong space. If I wanted a conversation like this I would talk to the wife. I am always in the wrong there as well. :rolleyes2:

Richard

 

[Tbear]

To be fair, though, assuming that's a car park, they're just parking 'tidily' and optimising the space available for others. If I was parking, in a car park, I would probably do the same.

Well I would not be wild camping because that would be naughty!

Richard

 

[alcam]

How can my attitude be a problem? Is the public highway now exclusive to local residents as well as the view? Is it any less rude to park in a side street possibly in front of someones house than along the front? I meet with enough height barriers stopping me from parking in the car parks so I`ll park where I can. I`m not going to drive around all day trying to find an unobtrusive parking space that could be miles from where I want to be. You can if you like but I`m not. Why should I have my enjoyment spoiled?
About 2 years ago I parked along the front at Hunstanton. A bloke came out of a house opposite and asked me if I`d got my gas on as it could be construed that I was `camping` if I had. I replied that my gas was always on as I have an underslung tank. Anyway to keep the peace I decided to move. No sooner had I pulled out than a much taller and longer m/h pulled into the now vacant space and he wasn`t as courteous as me because he was still there 4 hours later.

I think you're attitude is incredibly rude and selfish . You don't help the situation for others . But , as you say , why should your enjoyment be spoiled ?!

 

[jammy vestor]

Hi Guys, I have a HGV licence and I have run out of driving hours many times, which requires me to stop for a rest period enforced by law. I have never been knocked awake in a lorry, and rightly so. Somehow people think it is acceptable to knock on a motorhome. I always park with consideration for others, views and access to driveways etc. I have been knocked awake several times in the motorhome. I never answer the door, This is not for my safety reasons, it is for theirs. I am old enough to know my weaknesses and cannot trust myself to be polite and charming when disturbed from my sleep. It is better that they leave a snotty little note, than with a broken nose. The magnificent aspect of motorhoming is the freedom to travel where the wish and whim takes you for the day, nobody then would drive around in the dark looking for some campsite that rips you off for the right to breath their air for a few hours. We all share our public spaces, laybys and roads. There are rights of way and other such things, over private land, and if you have paid for the right to park, then park you can. If you are parked on the side of the highway, you are obliged to pay road tax, have insurance and have the vehicle inspected as roadworthy, and obey the highway code. Unfortunately the highway code gets updated, and many people have not read it since passing the test decades ago! The main points being priority and increased space must be given to larger vehicles when turning etc, and no vehicle should be driven when tired or unfit to do so. These surely apply to motorhomes. In summation Motorhomes are driven by Husbands and Wives, are enjoyed by families and people on holiday from the stresses and strains of life and work, People who frankly need the rest. I have read in this post that some would like councils to provide additional facilities for motorhomers, that in theory sounds great, water and waste self service points would be my first thought, but my next thought was that parasites like Meter persons, police and VOSA inspectors would lurk behind every bush. Just to make the holiday extra special.

 

[paul and jennie]

Hi Guys, I have a HGV licence and I have run out of driving hours many times, which requires me to stop for a rest period enforced by law. I have never been knocked awake in a lorry, and rightly so. Somehow people think it is acceptable to knock on a motorhome. I always park with consideration for others, views and access to driveways etc. I have been knocked awake several times in the motorhome. I never answer the door, This is not for my safety reasons, it is for theirs. I am old enough to know my weaknesses and cannot trust myself to be polite and charming when disturbed from my sleep. It is better that they leave a snotty little note, than with a broken nose. The magnificent aspect of motorhoming is the freedom to travel where the wish and whim takes you for the day, nobody then would drive around in the dark looking for some campsite that rips you off for the right to breath their air for a few hours. We all share our public spaces, laybys and roads. There are rights of way and other such things, over private land, and if you have paid for the right to park, then park you can. If you are parked on the side of the highway, you are obliged to pay road tax, have insurance and have the vehicle inspected as roadworthy, and obey the highway code. Unfortunately the highway code gets updated, and many people have not read it since passing the test decades ago! The main points being priority and increased space must be given to larger vehicles when turning etc, and no vehicle should be driven when tired or unfit to do so. These surely apply to motorhomes. In summation Motorhomes are driven by Husbands and Wives, are enjoyed by families and people on holiday from the stresses and strains of life and work, People who frankly need the rest. I have read in this post that some would like councils to provide additional facilities for motorhomers, that in theory sounds great, water and waste self service points would be my first thought, but my next thought was that parasites like Meter persons, police and VOSA inspectors would lurk behind every bush. Just to make the holiday extra special.

Cant agree more
I drive a psv and when i need to stop by law i stop to rest all i want to do is the same in my motorhome