Like everyone else,
I received Phil's message yesterday, and would like to thank him for bothering. Only ever had one PM, or whatever it's called before, so it was a bit of a novelty.
I can see his problem, but cannot see any neat solution, I regret to say.
There's always conflict in life, but, generally, folk of like mind find their suitable niche, and just like in the bar, little groups develop and do their own thing without, hopefully, impinging on others who enjoy doing theirs in the same locale.
Well, I'm back from the pub now, and hadn't realised that there was going to be a debate about the poll, as well as the poll.:rolleyes2:

If it helps to clear the air, then I think it will have done some good. However, as one wag on another forum pointed out: birds of a feather flock together and then proceed to crap on your car!
My horse came second AGAIN today ( that's the third time now) so I'm quite aware that things don't always go the way we want.:sad:
Anyway, I'm not voting at all myself, for three main reasons:
a) I've never banned anybody in my life and I've no urge to start now.
b) I think it's up to the Leader of the Pack - Phil, in this case - to have whoever he wants in this group. As I've said right from day one, it's entirely up to himself, imo, and that's that.
c) how can we - any of us - vote to ban persons unknown? :raofl:
I'm not party to all these here complaints that have been lodged, and am completely in the dark as to whom we are all chatting about. Until we know who's in the dock, it seems a bit silly to be discussing sentencing, imo.
Obviously, as a gambler, I can hazzard a pretty good guess as to the identity of the main players , and, if it helps to clarify matters, I can tell all that I, myself, have NOT received any warning ( yet) either public or in private about matters on this forum.
I have noted, however, Phil having to step into forum threads at least twice to ask folk to "be careful". Anyone who's bothered enough can probably find it all in the archives, I suppose.
:egg:
OK, that's enough for now from me, and just in case 'tis myself that gets the chop, I'll take this opportunity to say toodlepip and thanks for an interesting forum.:goodluck:
( It's called hedging your bets).
"
On a warm summer's eve
On a train bound for nowhere
I met up with the gambler
We were both too tired to sleep
So we took turns a-starin'
Out the window at the darkness
The boredom overtook us, and he began to speak
He said, "Son, I've made my life
Out of readin' people's faces
Knowin' what the cards were
By the way they held their eyes
So if you don't mind my sayin'
I can see you're out of aces
For a taste of your whiskey
I'll give you some advice"
So I handed him my bottle
And he drank down my last swallow
Then he bummed a cigarette
And asked me for a light
And the night got deathly quiet
And his faced lost all expression
He said, "If you're gonna play the game, boy
You gotta learn to play it right
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done
Now every gambler knows the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away
And knowin' what to keep
'Cause every hand's a winner
And every hand's a loser
And the best that you can hope for
Is to die in your sleep"
So when he finished speakin'
He turned back for the window
Crushed out his cigarette
And faded off to sleep then somewhere in the darkness
The gambler he broke even,
but in his final words
I found an ace that I could keep
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done
You've got to know when to hold 'em
(When to hold 'em)
Know when to fold 'em
(When to fold 'em)
Know when to walk away
know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done. "
sean rua.
" Ignorance is treatable; Arrogance is terminal."