M 40 crash

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Here we go again, if you really get upset by what someone has said why not PM them, no good shouting on here and getting others upset, we all have a right to our opium, however bizarre it may seem to others, lets try not to get too personal it will upset Phil.
 
portiapug said:
You utter Clown.

They were on their way to a Championship Dog Show. The dogs were all crated in Airline standard crates.

Is it their fault that they were abandoned by the RAC in the dark, on a Motorway in a strange part of the country.

Try engaging your brain before operating your big mouth.

The passenger who was very badly injured was a young Russian girl who had only been in the country a matter of hours. If you want to shout your mouth off please do it at the irresponsible, accident prone driver of the truck.
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Where does it say that the lorry driver was at fault in any of the reports?

All I can see is that the lorry jack-knifed and hit the motorhome, no account is made that the driver was at fault, in fact no mention of the driver at all. Best wait for the facts I think.
 
love him or hate him Wint is allowed his own opinions if you know you dont like what he writes dont read his posts nobody makes you.:cheers:
 
portiapug said:
You utter Clown.

They were on their way to a Championship Dog Show. The dogs were all crated in Airline standard crates.

Is it their fault that they were abandoned by the RAC in the dark, on a Motorway in a strange part of the country.

Try engaging your brain before operating your big mouth.

The passenger who was very badly injured was a young Russian girl who had only been in the country a matter of hours. If you want to shout your mouth off please do it at the irresponsible, accident prone driver of the truck.
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I think there is a difference between waiting for a specialist truck and being abandoned.
Im not quite sure what the girl's country of origin has to do with things. The driver should have been responsible for her.
I've not read yet that the lorry driver was at fault; where has this info come from?

I think you are over reacting to an opinion that you don't agree with here.
 
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mark61 said:
What a mess, although the cab still looks ok, but lucky escape for the passengers.
One report says the RAC were on route to the breakdown with a specialist recovery lorry, it doesn't mention them being left stranded by the RAC. So more facts are needed before any judgement of the RAC. If it turns out they were indeed visited by a recovery vehicle, who then left them, the RAC need taking to task.

The occupants should have been well up the bank, dogs left in the back of van. That where us with MH are lucky, we would almost certainly have warm clothes blankets etc, with us.
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so right we dont know the facts.
 
From Facebook:

RAC on Saturday · Bristol


Following the terrible accident on the M40 we wanted to respond to members’ concerns to make it clear that we always attend broken-down vehicles carrying animals. As today’s incident involved a large motorhome we had to ensure the correct recovery vehicle attended. Sadly for all concerned, the recovery vehicle was on its way when the accident happened. Our thoughts are with the injured passenger and the owners of the dogs that died.
 
Please bear in mind that we are not all faceless names, and the people involved in that horrific accident are real people and they may be known to some of us on this forum.

Such is the nature of a percentage of this nation that they have to jump in and apportion blame, and (very sadly) be disrespectful to people and situations that they know extremely little about.

I have seen more sympathy for people that have had their vans stolen.

For those that are interested, the lost dog was found, and I believe it is ok.

My best wishes go to those that are injured and I hope that they have a speedy recovery. My sympathy also goes to those that have lost their beloved pets. Many of us know how devastating that can be.

:dog::dog::dog:
 
portiapug said:
You utter Clown.

They were on their way to a Championship Dog Show. The dogs were all crated in Airline standard crates.

Is it their fault that they were abandoned by the RAC in the dark, on a Motorway in a strange part of the country.

Try engaging your brain before operating your big mouth.

The passenger who was very badly injured was a young Russian girl who had only been in the country a matter of hours. If you want to shout your mouth off please do it at the irresponsible, accident prone driver of the truck.
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i think you the clot wintstated that the driver of van should have removed all passengers from van over safety rail,which they failed to do.
it may or may not be truck driver who ran up there bum,but if all aboard were had been evacuated all would have been well.
please dont go mad its what i read it as.
 
I must admit its so sad when animals die in accidents. But would we see this reaction if 3 of 12 sheep died in a road traffic accident?
No of course not.
It would be more personally sad if a pet had been hurt but I just can't see how this many 'show dogs' are really pets.

What I think is striking is that most of the contentious views are in relation to hurt and killed animals when three people could have lost their lives for not protecting themselves by following well known good practices of removing themselves from a high risk situation (Russia has motorways far scarier than ours so the young girl sould have known).

I also find it uncomfortable when reading a thread discussing 'dogs and children' not secured within a car. They should be secured but unsecuring a child is very very different than an animal.

Graham
 
A friend of mine occidentally ran over a dog killing it out right. He phoned the police to report it.

The conversation went something like.

Friend
Hello officer I have ran over a dog and it is dead.

Police officer.
Only one?

That's my kind of policeman!

The sad thing about this thread is that is if the women had been killed and all the dogs were unhurt it would not have got a mention on here.
 
Cliffy said:
The sad thing about this thread is that is if the women had been killed and all the dogs were unhurt it would not have got a mention on here.
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You think That's the sad thing??


I think there is plenty sad about it already.
 
strong emotions as usual whenever dogs are involved.i agree with trevskoda ,hextal and wint,nobody should have been in the van on the hard shoulder,that was a tragic error of judgement ,apportioning blame to the rac or the lorry driver won't change that
 
portiapug said:
It seems that everyone is missing the point.

The so-called '4th emergency service' attended and then just left them. That is, 3 women he left in the dark and in a potentially dangerous situation. Would you like that on your conscience? Why did he not contact someone on their behalf or inform them to do so as he is the professional driver not them? Would your wife know exactly what to do at 5 am on a motorway? You lot are not keyboard warriors, you are just sad, old, mischief making old gits who have a big opinion of yourselves and no trace of compassion for three women who went through a nightmare. What goes around comes around.

Let's hope that any of you lot are next. Of course you will get out of your vehicle and wait around for 3 hours in the cold and dark and not come on here ranting and raving about the lousy service you received. No, of course not ..... because you are all perfect. At least you think you are.
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Lets have facts and not hearsay please.

"You lot are not keyboard warriors, you are just sad, old, mischief making old gits" Speak for yourself.

Yes the whole episode is sad, but it was avoidable, at least for the women.
 
yes i see the services should have sorted it,people let down again by those how should be looking after us and geting paid to do so.
 
I've been in similar situations quite a few times and knowing enough to get yourself out of danger isn't dependent on being told or being male or female .and calling me names doesn't help
 
Portiapug, I agree with the first three lines of your main paragraph to a certain point. This should be the issue and talking point not the unfortunate animals.
My wife has broken down late at night on motorway and did the correct thing but regardless of making the safest choice, the thread should be about the three people and the RACs actions in relation to them.

Graham
 
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