M 40 crash

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dave and mary said:
View attachment 18717Anyone who has breakdown cover with the RAC may wont to think again after a horrific incident on the M40 this morning where women travelling to a dog show in their camper van with 12 dogs broke down and were left in the dark waiting for 3 hours after the RAC refused to pick them up because of the dogs on board! Subsequently the camper van was hit by a lorry and the women are lucky to be alive! Sadly 3 of the dogs were killed and one is currently still missing.
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When I put this post on I never in my wildest dreams thought it would cause so much discontent among members. Many of you I have met at meets had a drink in a pub with you, even eaten you lovely chilly. The support you all have given to Mary and myself over the last year has been so helpful to us with our daughters illness. Please please think again about leaving the site, and remember all the good times we have had, the people that are upsetting you are not worth bothering about, just don't read there posts.

To the people involved in the accident I apologise for the comments you have hade to read on here, And I wish that I had never put the post on, so can we now draw a line under this post before other people take offence.

Thanks Dave
 
Not your fault Dave these quite innocent posts can easily turn nasty when certain members put they're 5 penneth in.
 
It's human nature to make assumptions - and sadly this whole thread has been sidetracked and gone totally down the drain! Don't feel sad Dave and Mary - you posted in good faith.

It is a shame that so many good people might have left the forum as a result of some of the remarks made, but that again is human nature. Sometimes we react without thinking - same with replying to threads. Something get someone's back up and the poop hits the fan.

I agree it is time to put this thread to bed, as any further comments will only inflame further, the uncomfortable and unfortunate situation.
 
Do not post in this thread unless it is directly related to the crash on the M40.

Two members have been warned about their insensitive posts.
 
Thanks for posting that, it puts things into perspective - for most folks anyway!
John
 
glad to hear that the lost dog has been found safe and well .its terrible having some killed ,but its equally as distressing loosing/not knowing the fate of a lost pet. hope the injured people are doing well
 
trevskoda said:
yes got your point ,but are cages fixed to floor is van registered as goods as you are using for hire or reward if you colect prize money or other,what about ins have you told them,you might not be covered,just a thought.
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LOL - winning money? - I ain't that good! LOL - its a hobby...... and lots of shows don't even provide you with a Rosette these days!

My cages aren't fixed to the floor - but are wedged in so they cant move. We are also in the process of getting our garage space custom caged, and I do have seatbelt harnesses .....though of course they don't crash test them for dogs :(
 
gholt417 said:
I must admit its so sad when animals die in accidents. But would we see this reaction if 3 of 12 sheep died in a road traffic accident?
No of course not.
It would be more personally sad if a pet had been hurt but I just can't see how this many 'show dogs' are really pets.

What I think is striking is that most of the contentious views are in relation to hurt and killed animals when three people could have lost their lives for not protecting themselves by following well known good practices of removing themselves from a high risk situation (Russia has motorways far scarier than ours so the young girl sould have known).

I also find it uncomfortable when reading a thread discussing 'dogs and children' not secured within a car. They should be secured but unsecuring a child is very very different than an animal.

Graham
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Feels like I am getting off topic here but I cant let this go unaddressed. These three women in had dogs with them - they weren't 12 dogs owned by one person - and so what if they were? I am a hobby exhibitor of show dogs, and we have 7 all who live in the house and all much loved family pets. The reason for this number is that some are dogs we have rescued from puppy farms and from "death row", and here are my current show dogs and their ageing forerunners. It is because they are so loved that people don't ditch a show dog just because its show days are over.

I read remarks about children and dogs being secured in vehicles as being done so for their own safety and that of the rest of the passengers - and to prevent driver distraction - not that one was more important than the other - though it has to be said that for many people unable to have children, pets ARE their family!

I am sure that most people would agree that whatever someone's life choices - whether they have children or dogs - one or several - we are concerned for safety all round; and look for best practice when driving or in the case of a breakdown. Positive suggestions and safety promotion would surely be a better way forward than making assumptions and value judgements.
 
ellieloy said:
LOL - winning money? - I ain't that good! LOL - its a hobby...... and lots of shows don't even provide you with a Rosette these days!

My cages aren't fixed to the floor - but are wedged in so they cant move. We are also in the process of getting our garage space custom caged, and I do have seatbelt harnesses .....though of course they don't crash test them for dogs :(
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Wedged in so they can't move ? Have you heard of impact ? One hits something coming the other way at 70mph that's an impact of 140mph it's a sure thing those crates/cages will move
 
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