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Yeah, I’ve used Thease at various Marinas all over the place a few years back, If you plugged in to one with credit on it (Probably only pence) Then it was your good fortune, at the time you could either buy a card from the office or from night security.
Seemed to work ok.
 
Well, I won't be paying £4, far too expensive for me as we use very little electricity.
Don't forget this charge is summer time when most go camping

As a comparison, we were in Portugal and paid for the electricity we used and it worked out at €30 (EURO not £) for 32 days.
A BIG difference!

As the post is about piss takers on Cl sites leaving heaters running 24hrs a day in Mhs and awnings I don't see the relevance of the cost in Portugal. It is quite possible for them to use £18 of elec per day with a 16amp supply I certainly wouldn't want to supply elec at £4 per day in this country and neither would you I suspect.
 
The second paragraph of my post was just pointing out that some of us use very little electricity and that £4 would be excessive.
It is better to pay per KW of usage then the piss takers would have to stop!

That I quite agree with.
 
Pre motohome days, we rented a cabin type lodge on the north west coast. When we booked in, lady took a meter reading, when we booked out, lady took a meter reading, we were aware of unit cost during the booking process and, we paid for units we used.

Perhaps these CL sites should do similar.

We stopped on a small site in Angelsey early this year and they did the same think for EHU. My bill for 2 days was 18 pence :)
 
Original poster says people are leaving heaters on in awnings.Surely this would be easy to check on.Also the charging of electric cars another easy so obvious thing to spot.So if caught chuck em off the site as surely its abuse and taking the P in a giant way.Sites are a business so the owners need to police their business and if people are not checked on then good luck to them if getting away with it!


Michael
on some points I agree, however it does not sit well with me, as much as I love something for nothing.
I'm always willing to pay for leccy , providing it's not too expensive ( whatever your conscience is) remembering that most of us are greatful
after a few days tramping to get some warmth, light and all the other bits that are linked to leccy.
On the bigger picture it's no different from dumping black and grey and filling up.
Abuse it at your peril, we will lose it all.
 
Is there credit, to people who use generators, as thay pay for what thay use, just a thought!!!!:lol-053::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053::wave:
 
Pre motohome days, we rented a cabin type lodge on the north west coast. When we booked in, lady took a meter reading, when we booked out, lady took a meter reading, we were aware of unit cost during the booking process and, we paid for units we used.

Perhaps these CL sites should do similar.


It's a common practice on German sites, also I understand some UK site do this.
 
I understand a problem for the site operator is not allowed to charge/resell at more per unit than the actual cost of the electricity,

however in doing that does not take into account the cost of installing the cables around the field and increasing the electric supply to the premises.

Taking this into consideration I would not be able to offer electric hookups.
 
I understand a problem for the site operator is not allowed to charge/resell at more per unit than the actual cost of the electricity,

however in doing that does not take into account the cost of installing the cables around the field and increasing the electric supply to the premises.

Taking this into consideration I would not be able to offer electric hookups.

I think that they can charge a ‘Service’ charge as part of the bill but not alter the Electric Unit cost kinda thing, Ish,,Maybe !
 
Can't put all the fault on campers using what is available. Sad fact of life that some folk will take full advantage of everything.
CLs used to be places to park, fill water and empty waste. They then started supplying ehu, showers etc without putting in safeguards like metering the supplies.

Houstons mill broughshane,we have it covered,no sniper of lecy here.
 

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I think that they can charge a ‘Service’ charge as part of the bill but not alter the Electric Unit cost kinda thing, Ish,,Maybe !

Yes agreed, like increase the site rent per night BUT not increase the price per unit of electricity above what the site owner actually pays.
 
There is another side.
I know a little farm campsite that charger £4 for electricity, even in the summer!
That is also greed!

No folk still use m/waves & hot plates to cook, electric t/brushes ,hair driers,charge batterys etc winter or summer.
 
I would have thought trying to charge an ecar on say 10 amp supply, would trip main fuse.

Many EHUs are 16A and you can do a slow charge on house sockets so the plug should have a 13a fuse in at most. They will more than likely trip 10a. as they are up to 3kw.
 
I understand a problem for the site operator is not allowed to charge/resell at more per unit than the actual cost of the electricity,

however in doing that does not take into account the cost of installing the cables around the field and increasing the electric supply to the premises.

Taking this into consideration I would not be able to offer electric hookups.


It is perfectly permissible for the site owner to include the cost of installation in the charge, I can't be arsed looking it up at moment, but somewhere on government website there are guidelines to how it's calculated.
 
Even at the wonderful Green Frog it’s £4.50 a night extra for hook up. Can’t say I’ve ever felt ripped off at that.
 
A few things spring to mind. I like the way German Stellplatz are often on a meter. Much better really. You can take it or leave it and pay as much or as little as you want / need. Also in France on private Aires electricity is often an option but its also often a much lower ampage. I appreciate putting in meters on a CL is probably way too expensive especially if your retrospectively having to fit them but putting in a lower amp hookup say 6amps must be more straight forward surely. Then just work out what the maximum is someone could use and price accordingly and separately. I dont need hookup in the summer at all so dont want to have to pay for it and in winter the main priority is to keep the battery charged. I think some sites abroad offer various price structures for higher ampage as well.
 

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