Lost confidence

[Fisherman]

You are highlighting many points not mentioned in post 16.
Of course no one should be parking in residents only car parking spaces.
They should be fined for doing so.
Only once on Skye were we in need of help with our cassette.
But that was due being let down by a site that promised us access for a fee in winter when we were there.
But fortunately we met a fellow motorhomer who did as you do.
I thanked him and handed over a nice Shiraz as thanks.
But anyone who heads out not taking into consideration their cassette, is behaving poorly in my honest opinion .
Its that kind of behaviour that leads to these issues.
As for the council fitting barriers.
Well the small campers that seem to be mainly causing your issues will be able to get under a 2.2m barrier.

Anyway I again apologise if I seemed rude, but if I had known about the parking for residents only I would not have felt so aggrieved.

 

[TJBi]

Having been confined to home exclusively for the last three months with only a couple of days out, I have found myself losing the confidence to free camp. This feeling has been exacerbated by the stories of people in Wales and Cornwall and elsewhere actively and in some cases physically discouraging visitors.
I thought I would book a couple of days in a campsite but school holidays are upon us and campsites are already saying they are likely to be full.
I expect a couple of short trips locally might restore my confidence but I wondered if anyone else was feeling a little shaky.
I certainly won't be going abroad this year.

I, on the other hand, most definitely intend to go abroad this year, to motorhome-friendly France.

 

[harrow]

On the wireless they say the government are considering a lockdown in Leicester because there are so many cases of covid 19 this virus is not finished yet

 

[Deleted member 77519]

I for one will definitely be getting out and about in my van. I have worked non stop since February. Delivering meals to schools, vulnerable people in their homes, people taken off the streets and personal protective equipment to Nursing homes. I work for the local Council as a mini bus driver. At times it's been nerve wracking. Someone coughs and everyone steps back, people going off sick with the virus and we all waited to be next. I'm concerned about a second wave because I seem somehow to have made it through the first. So yes I for one won't be hanging around when we get the nod. I feel quite safe when I'm in my Van. I hope you all can overcome your anxieties and get back to enjoying what you love.

 

[barge1914]

Its me barge, the guy that tries to defend our good name, the only guy that has bothered to question post 16. Post 16 seems to suggest that plenty if not most of us were emptying cassettes inappropriately. I was highlighting post 16 not stating that most of us do this.

Oh, my brain is getting old...probably better that I read the earlier posts first!

 

[barge1914]

The very vans that can get under the barriers put up to keep us out and to stop this. Anyone caught emptying a cassette inappropriately should be fined heavily.

In NZ they take this very seriously, eye-watering fines, and hirers caught dumping cassettes run the risk of instant cancellation of their rental and deportation...hmmm!

 

[barge1914]

I, on the other hand, most definitely intend to go abroad this year, to motorhome-friendly France.

I would so like to do likewise, except no one is going to provide travel insurance covering Covid, and being of a vulnerable age with a few relevant medical issues, if I got it it would be bad, and I am the only driver.

 

[izwozral]

In NZ they take this very seriously, eye-watering fines, and hirers caught dumping cassettes run the risk of instant cancellation of their rental and deportation...hmmm!

If I was caught doing the dumping here, would I be deported to NZ?
Now that would a temptation I couldn't resist!

 

[jacquigem]

We are planning to leave our Spanish home on Friday . Move North and East to try and find cooler climates and meet up with friends . Have planned small town aires but aware that even on Spanish plates might meet some resistance . Will let you know , but cant spend our lives in fear . Will take all sensible precautions and see what happens.

 

[2cv]

We certainly won’t be heading abroad till covid is over, too much risk of being trapped by an outbreak with no insurance. We will however continue to park and stay the night in sensible locations in the UK.

 

[jagmanx]

I am more worried about covid-19 than hostile natives.

The government said they'd be led by the science when it came to easing lockdown, but the scientists say its too early.

The risk is now higher than it was in the middle of March.

We all want to get back on the road, but just because lots of people are acting foolishly doesn't make it a good idea: it makes it an even worse idea.

Agreed
Total Incompetence and lies

 

[mfw]

Cant see problem going to france if there is large outbreak they will want you out - exit france to another eu country i think could be more of a problem transit wise - there was no trouble getting out of spain when they locked down even when the police/customs/border patrol were checking vehicles at irun crossing - totally different now which is why i would stick to france - i'd also check that aires are open prior to going -if villages dont want you they will shut the aires and parking areas

 

[Rath Mullan]

They are NOT responsible wild campers by the sound of it! At least, not 'wild campers' in an actual campervan? Tents?!!!

Don't know how this particular situation is impacting on your day-to-day life, if at all - without all the facts it's hard to say, but are you sure it's not a wee bit of nimbyism?

Just sayin'

We've had more than 30 'wild campers' staying overnight in camper vans and other vans during June, in beautiful fields next to our home. The impact on our day to day life has been that we have to step carefully around human excrement and tissue on the footpaths and our view is often blocked by 2 or 3 vans camped selfishly. I thought wild camping was about enjoying and respecting natural beauty in solitary locations. Those are the facts for us, so nimbyism, yes, I guess. I can sympathise with phase3begins!

 

[Rath Mullan]

And a myth spread by the media, and the great il informed.
And sadly within our own community as post 16 highlights in here.
Apparently only folk in campers fill carparks, and crap all over the place.

I don't think anyone is saying that its "only folk in campers". The facts are that during lockdown, where we live as well, it has been entirely folk in campers crapping, filling the car park and being aggressive to residents who have spoken to them. It's not a myth, and we won't be the only ones within this community who have noticed it. They may well be a minority, but it would show more responsibility to acknowledge that it's unacceptable behaviour. This would help the public recognise that most motorhome owners want to enjoy and respect the areas they visit.

 

[Fisherman]

I don't think anyone is saying that its "only folk in campers". The facts are that during lockdown, where we live as well, it has been entirely folk in campers crapping, filling the car park and being aggressive to residents who have spoken to them. It's not a myth, and we won't be the only ones within this community who have noticed it. They may well be a minority, but it would show more responsibility to acknowledge that it's unacceptable behaviour. This would help the public recognise that most motorhome owners want to enjoy and respect the areas they visit.

You just stated it is only folk in campers.
You just justified and endorsed the myth that you state is not a myth.
And if you bothered to read my posts on here you will know exactly what I think of those who behave poorly. And right now anyone who is overnighting is breaking the law, something I and the vast majority of us have not done.
Seems to me you have an axe to grind, rid yourself of camper vans job done, problem solved. We don’t even know where these apparent Indiscretions have taken place, you have for whatever reason decided not to inform us.

 

[mfw]

You might find it is irresponsible dog owners letting their dogs crap everywhere and not clearing it up - cant see people crapping where they want to spend a few nights and maybe go back to in the future - it is very easy to point a finger and put blame on someone whether guilty or not

 

[Debroos]

We've had more than 30 'wild campers' staying overnight in camper vans and other vans during June, in beautiful fields next to our home. The impact on our day to day life has been that we have to step carefully around human excrement and tissue on the footpaths and our view is often blocked by 2 or 3 vans camped selfishly. I thought wild camping was about enjoying and respecting natural beauty in solitary locations. Those are the facts for us, so nimbyism, yes, I guess. I can sympathise with phase3begins!

I agree that there are irresponsible wildcampers out there and this forum has always condemned them.

I am puzzled as to why the police did not deal with their illegal parking during lockdown.
Could you tell me where this was as I would like to contact them on this matter.

 

[witzend]

Seems like a campsite owners gripe

 

[barryd]

We've had more than 30 'wild campers' staying overnight in camper vans and other vans during June, in beautiful fields next to our home. The impact on our day to day life has been that we have to step carefully around human excrement and tissue on the footpaths and our view is often blocked by 2 or 3 vans camped selfishly. I thought wild camping was about enjoying and respecting natural beauty in solitary locations. Those are the facts for us, so nimbyism, yes, I guess. I can sympathise with phase3begins!

Where is this exactly? Any photos? 30 vans in a group in a field during lockdown emptying crap all over the place. How on earth did the authorities allow this to happen? Given the stories we have seen and heard of genuine full timers and their troubles and getting fined by the Police Im struggling to understand how something as horrific as what you have described has been allowed to carry on without some kind of Police action. Would be interested to know more. Lets name and shame them.

In the past there has been issues with Travellers / Gypsies and this kind of behaviour not that I want to pass the buck onto them but this certainly does not sound like the kind of behaviour anyone on this forum would participate in.

 

[Fisherman]

Where is this exactly? Any photos? 30 vans in a group in a field during lockdown emptying crap all over the place. How on earth did the authorities allow this to happen? Given the stories we have seen and heard of genuine full timers and their troubles and getting fined by the Police Im struggling to understand how something as horrific as what you have described has been allowed to carry on without some kind of Police action. Would be interested to know more. Lets name and shame them.

In the past there has been issues with Travellers / Gypsies and this kind of behaviour not that I want to pass the buck onto them but this certainly does not sound like the kind of behaviour anyone on this forum would participate in.

And why is this person informing us about our apparant aggression and bad behaviour.
Why not the police.
Also has this poor behaviour suddenly stopped, if not whats being done about it now.
I have never seen 30 campers in a carpark before covid, never mind now.