Is it the death knell for the combustion engine?

Sure homebuilders will fit solar as soon as there is a market, and there must be the market now, or very soon. They'll just have to print some new brochures.
Solar cost pennies to include on new builds, either solar thermal or photovoltaic.
I've had thermal panels on my roof for about 16 years, gone from thinking there are brilliant to now trying to work out if the emissions they have saved is now going to be used by the scaffolding lorry thats going to have to come round so they can be maintained.
 
Not to forget the potential impact of self driving cars.
They could potentially do away with a lot of car ownership.
You could get of a train and into a car you had summoned online. After it had taken you where you wished it would register as unused and whisk off to its next job. Parking in cities( or in fact anywhere) would no longer be neccessary.
A bit like a car version of a Boris bike but would come to you.
(Good news for the pub industry!)
Lots of testing going on on a runway near me.
Just pay as you use
Not so good for taxi drivers.
Electric power for long distances, no problem. Just swap cars
It will be second car ownership that dwindles first I think.
Also having a car just to drive to and back from your local rail station every day and paying to park will be a thing of the past.
I dont think electric cars on their own are going to be a revolution , self driving cars. That is the real advance
 
Change only impacts on the poorer end .
Easy to announce changes when you've got plenty of money to buy the new vehicles.
People talk now of 30k for a vehicle as if it's nothing.
Change has got to happen but make it affordable for all not just the wealthy.
 
tailgate said:
Change only impacts on the poorer end .
Easy to announce changes when you've got plenty of money to buy the new vehicles.
People talk now of 30k for a vehicle as if it's nothing.
Change has got to happen but make it affordable for all not just the wealthy.
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That would be the beauty of calling up a self driving car. Only pay for it when you use it. Much cheaper than a taxi as no wage to pay.
(Sorry taxi drivers but you got a few years yet)
Once you have made your journey it goes to next job
 
jagmanx said:
Do not fret !
Some may remember Petrol rationing (1973 ish)

Ahead we will have LECCY Rationing
Wind Rationing (although that might suit me !) and
Sun Rationing

My big wish is for Politician Rationing !!!
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I remember power rationing and the three day working week, wasn’t that 70’s as well?
Whereas we all managed back then in today’s connected world it would probable result in rioting/civil war.
We need change but we need it across the board, every house should have solar panels and living roof/walls. We should be pushing hydrogen powered motors as well
 
Martin P said:
That would be the beauty of calling up a self driving car. Only pay for it when you use it. Much cheaper than a taxi as no wage to pay.
(Sorry taxi drivers but you got a few years yet)
Once you have made your journey it goes to next job
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These things only tend to work where there is high population density. In lots of rural areas you struggle to get broadband still.
City’s should be pedestrianised anyway
 
tailgate said:
Change only impacts on the poorer end .
Easy to announce changes when you've got plenty of money to buy the new vehicles.
People talk now of 30k for a vehicle as if it's nothing.
Change has got to happen but make it affordable for all not just the wealthy.
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There is no compulsion for anyone to go out and buy a new car.
 
Well things seem to have rapidly moved on since I put in my two pence this morning, including a lot of
negative thinking.
We have just got back from the market in Salisbury where we used the Britford park & ride service.
51.051754, -1.783730
A couple of weeks ago Salisbury invested in several all electric busses to run on the park & ride system and we rode on one this morning,
its the way forward folk.

Dezi :)

www.spirefm.co.uk

Electric buses arrive for Salisbury Park & Ride

Salisbury Reds now has three electric vehicles to add to their fleet.
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All this worry and panic when there really is a very simple solution.
Push your cars to work, MH's to your holiday spots, lorries to depots and buses to bus stops. Simples! No petrol or diesel necessary.

Ok, I may not thought this one through properly?:unsure:
 
In 2035 I'll be 89.
You youngsters should be investing in the original form of horsepower..
The 4 legged variety, producers of fine manure.
Me ..?
An electric Hearse will be more to my requirements
 
Well I never. You are better off having an Electric Car in Paris than London. According to Chargemap there are 279 charging points in London and 3062 in Paris. Looks like London will have to get a move on. I do wonder though where the Chancellor is going to get his Duty from £28.4 billion in 2019-20. Fuel is taxed at 20% VAT where electricity is only 5%.

Like Trevor's idea of using lamp posts but trying to get more than two vehicles near one could be a problem. Then you are going to have the problem of different connectors. They cannot even agree on a standard design with most charging points having 3 connectors.
 
Fisherman said:
I know what’s being stated is 2035 but the reason this was brought forward was the ultimate target is 2050 when it’s planned that no internal combustion cars and vans will be on the road. It was felt that 2040 would not have allowed enough time to eradicate internal combustion engines by 2050.
Let’s wait for the announcement and then deduce exactly what vehicles will be banned.
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I think I will have been eradicated by then!!
 
GreggBear said:
True, but for a long time after the new tech is made mandatory, there won't be any cheap 2nd hand ones available. Maybe you think driving should only be available to richer folk? Sounds very much like another step towards another feudal system in my opinion......
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There are already EV's on the road and have been for years, they are gradually getting more popular, they will be near same price as ICE by 2035.
 
mariesnowgoose said:
It's a massive logistical and cultural worldwide problem.

BUT - the complacent world leviathan is finally starting to be prodded one way or another, let's see how fast it wakes up (or not).

If the Chinese can build a 1,000 bed hospital in 2 weeks, there has to be some hope for the future?
There will be problems right across the board regardless, too much on our planet has been damaged/lost already.

Me, I will just be quite happy to be compos mentis and walking around in 10 years time, diesel moho or no diesel moho.

Just pleased our latest van didn't cost us tens of thousands, so am perfectly content to run it into the ground, then wait see what happens after that - if I'm still alive, that is 😉 😜
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2 weeks, wow, the fastest I ever managed was a 9 week maternity hospital in Saudi Arabia.
 
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