Ian Blackford demands motorhome code of conduct after NC500 crashes

Done it, several times earlier in the summer. It's so fabulous this epic trip is turning round just short of Bournemouth and heading back to Devon tomorrow.

I love exploring those little lanes on the scoot. It was an absolute hoot in the summer holidays but occasionally a bit bum twitching. 😂
Just love exploring. The road was easy in my van, but mate in his Iveco struggled a bit on a few corners. :ROFLMAO:
 
I was quoting the article not the interview.
One part of the article talked of completely banning US.
Another of issuing us with a code of practice.
The public are far more influenced by such articles than what politicians say.
Yes its disappointing the media do this . For once not the fault of the politician!
The media can be manipulated/influenced.
Involved in something just now where the narrative has been changed with smart lobbying (not by me) .
We must have people on here who have these skills
 
Phill I am just back from the LLLLLake DDDDDistrict .
I have never driven worse roads than some there.
Even as bad as some in Cornwall. (Possibly I got carried away there :))
Why build roads that are so narrow that even two motorbikes would have to slow down when passing, and with absolutely no passing places. Also narrow roads up here tend to carry little traffic, not so in many parts of England.
Don't get me wrong some of this was borne from my own stupidity with my sat nav. :mad: I have now changed what I do do with that.:(

But to be honest with a much smaller population, and normally much quieter roads, I much prefer driving up here than I do down south. In Scotland most narrow roads or single track, have plenty of passing places, they don’t in England. Also from a a pedestrian POV, Scotland provides more pavements than down south. I remember the walk vividly from the C&MC site in York to the large shopping area. For over a mile we had to walk a 60mph road, with no pavement.

The NC 500 writes its own story, and I don’t think it applies to any other part of Scotland, to anything like the same degree.

Couple of things I would have to disagree with there Bill.

Firstly, those roads were probably built hundreds of years ago so they probably didn't have the foresight to allow for cars and motorhomes to be able to negotiate these roads, most such 'roads' have signage to indicate not suitable for large vehicles or width limits.

Secondly, most single track roads I have travelled in England do have passing places in my experience.

I did find in Cornwall recently though that the road from the campsite to the nearest pub had no pavement and would have been extremely dangerous to walk at night, so not meant for pedestrians really. There was however a footpath across fields which could be used as an alternative

I do agree though that sat navs can get a motorist in a lot of trouble.
 
Haha. The Lake District (which is my home turf) has nothing on Devon! This is the "Road of Death" we had to negotiate a mile of to avoid roadworks near Salcombe for three weeks on the bike a few weeks ago. 🤣 One wheel on that swampy garden in the middle and your toast. 😁

Very few if any passing places. They are everywhere down here but maybe the difference with the NC 500 is there are more alternatives down here.

Barry on the Road to Ravenglass I drove a road just like that for two miles. The bushes were hitting both sides of the van.
Luckily no one was coming in the other direction. But it was my stupid fault, after checking I should have ignored the sat nav and remained on the main road.
I have walked wider tracks on our hills.
 
You didn't go over the Hardknott pass did you?

Anyway we did the nc500 the year of it's inception, we didn't even know about it till we saw it advertised in Inverness. We'd always had a week or two in Scotland every year since getting a van, sadly we haven't been back since because of all the horror stories.
 
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Secondly, most single track roads I have travelled in England do have passing places in my experience.
There are a lot of single track roads in England, in my experience very few have 'official' passing places, most have muddy pull in's worn away by traffic trying to squeeze past, the road I live on being one such place for half it's length.
 
There are a lot of single track roads in England, in my experience very few have 'official' passing places, most have muddy pull in's worn away by traffic trying to squeeze past, the road I live on being one such place for half it's length.

Yes you are right about 'official' passing places Colin. But very few times have I not been able to negotiate a road satisfactorily due to a lack of passing places, official or not.

Perhaps I have just been lucky.
 
Couple of things I would have to disagree with there Bill.

Firstly, those roads were probably built hundreds of years ago so they probably didn't have the foresight to allow for cars and motorhomes to be able to negotiate these roads, most such 'roads' have signage to indicate not suitable for large vehicles or width limits.

Secondly, most single track roads I have travelled in England do have passing places in my experience.

I did find in Cornwall recently though that the road from the campsite to the nearest pub had no pavement and would have been extremely dangerous to walk at night, so not meant for pedestrians really. There was however a footpath across fields which could be used as an alternative

I do agree though that sat navs can get a motorist in a lot of trouble.
Just back from England Rob, got as far south as Salisbury. Drove some tight roads, particularly one to a CCC site in Minehead overlooking the town. Caravans are not allowed due to the access roads. I never saw proper passing place signs anywhere. And some house owners insisted in putting large white painted stones in areas were you could have used as a passing place. The roads in Scotland were also built many years ago, before the car was invented, most were only tracks which through time became roads, but they did put in plenty of passing places. I am not saying there are not some tight roads up here without passing places, there are but I reckon there are many more in England.

As for footpaths Rob, you can walk for miles on a proper footpath up here in places were you may not even meet another person. One that comes to mind is the footpath from Guardbridge all the way to St Andrews. The example I gave was in York. There is no way this would happen up here. My wife and I often comment on the lack of footpaths in England. I know I am generalising which can be inaccurate, but the vast majority of my difficult driving experiences have been down south Rob.

Not having a go at old England Rob, I actually love parts of your country. We had a great trip, but some of the driving was, shall I say not for the faint hearted. Thank god the new van will be a foot narrower. :)
 
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Just back from England Rob, got as far south as Salisbury. Drove some tight roads, particularly one to a CCC site in Minehead overlooking the town. Caravans are not allowed due to the access roads. I never saw proper passing place signs anywhere. And some house owners insisted in putting large white painted stones in areas were you could have used as a passing place. The roads in Scotland were also built many years ago, before the car was invented, most were only tracks which through time became roads, but they did put in plenty of passing places. I am not saying there are not some tight roads up here without passing places, there are but I reckon there are many more in England.

As for footpaths Rob, you can walk for miles on a proper footpath up here in places were you may not even meet another person. One that comes to mind is the footpath from Guardbridge all the way to St Andrews. The example I gave was in York. There is no way this would happen up here. My wife and I often comment on the lack of footpaths in England. I know I am generalising which can be inaccurate, but the vast majority of my difficult driving experiences have been down south Rob.

Not having a go at old England Rob, I actually love parts of your country. We had a great trip, but some of the driving was, shall I say not for the faint hearted. Thank god the new van will be a foot narrower.

I wouldn't have negotiated the footpath in Cornwall in the dark Bill, I would have got lost. I very nearly got lost walking it in daylight! Also it wasn't well signposted, most of the signs being plywood written with a black indelible marker pen.

I find it strange that planning permission is ever granted for some caravan sites though, vehicles towing caravans can cause chaos for the locals (especially farmers) who live on and around the narrow country lanes and it creates a lot of animosity towards visitors.

Perhaps some of our lanes should be signposted 'No passing places' to warn motorists following sat nav instructions, I can't see local councils going to the expense of installing more passing places, they can't even keep the roads themselves in a suitable condition, they are in a terrible state of repair. :mad:
 
Barry on the Road to Ravenglass I drove a road just like that for two miles. The bushes were hitting both sides of the van.
Luckily no one was coming in the other direction. But it was my stupid fault, after checking I should have ignored the sat nav and remained on the main road.
I have walked wider tracks on our hills.
Yeah there are a few over that way to be fair. The path less trodden as far as Cumbria is concerned. Thankfully not usually that busy that way.
 
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Try this road in Baune, France. Dangerous only for the fact nobody knows which lines to drive between.
 
England's most dangerous road, the A537 stretches 7.5 miles between the Cheshire town of Macclesfield and Buxton in Derbyshire.
Also known as the 'Cat & Fiddle road', it is considered to be the most dangerous road in Britain and recorded 44 serious crashes between 2007-2011.

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More dangerous for bikers than motorists imho, bikers used to meet up at the Cat & Fiddle then ton it to Macclesfield or Buxton.
 
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Just back from England Rob, got as far south as Salisbury. Drove some tight roads, particularly one to a CCC site in Minehead overlooking the town. Caravans are not allowed due to the access roads. I never saw proper passing place signs anywhere. And some house owners insisted in putting large white painted stones in areas were you could have used as a passing place. The roads in Scotland were also built many years ago, before the car was invented, most were only tracks which through time became roads, but they did put in plenty of passing places. I am not saying there are not some tight roads up here without passing places, there are but I reckon there are many more in England.

As for footpaths Rob, you can walk for miles on a proper footpath up here in places were you may not even meet another person. One that comes to mind is the footpath from Guardbridge all the way to St Andrews. The example I gave was in York. There is no way this would happen up here. My wife and I often comment on the lack of footpaths in England. I know I am generalising which can be inaccurate, but the vast majority of my difficult driving experiences have been down south Rob.

Not having a go at old England Rob, I actually love parts of your country. We had a great trip, but some of the driving was, shall I say not for the faint hearted. Thank god the new van will be a foot narrower. :)

Population of Scotland approx. 5.52 million.

Population of England approx. 56.5 million.

Approx. 278 people per square kilometre in England (excluding Wales).

Approx. 70 people per square kilometre in Scotland.

Or thereabouts, give or take...

Obviously the biggest concentration will be in the major cities and their conurbations, but when those folks decide to vacate their premises and go on holiday... :oops:😵‍💫😂

🤷‍♀️ ;)

Personally I'm finding Outer Mongolia more and more appealing.... ;):cool::ROFLMAO:
 
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Population of Scotland approx. 5.52 million.

Population of England approx. 56.5 million.

Approx. 278 people per square kilometre in England (excluding Wales).

Approx. 70 people per square kilometre in Scotland.

Or thereabouts, give or take...

🤷‍♀️ ;)
Yes Marie, and actually that figure can be misleading. Over three million of Scot’s live in the central belt leaving very low figures outwith the central belt.
 
Population of Scotland approx. 5.52 million.

Population of England approx. 56.5 million.

Approx. 278 people per square kilometre in England (excluding Wales).

Approx. 70 people per square kilometre in Scotland.

Or thereabouts, give or take...

Obviously the biggest concentration will be in the major cities and their conurbations, but when those folks decide to vacate their premises and go on holiday... :oops:😵‍💫😂

🤷‍♀️ ;)

Personally I'm finding Outer Mongolia more and more appealing.... ;):cool::ROFLMAO:
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Ve like our Vimmin not speak so much, ve have much Yak so no yakking vimmin vanted.

:whistle: :whistle: :cool:
 

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