Help with rear view / reversing camera

ProDave

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Our rear view camera is faulty, it appears to be an optical fault, more than half of the picture, a big "blob" at the bottom is out of focus. I suspect water ingress to the camera.

It's on the rear of our Tischer demountable camper. Here is what I know so far, but manufacturers and part numbers are very scarce.

The camera is attached to the high level brake light. I removed the brake light and camera as one, then dismantled the brake light unit to detach the camera. The brake light is partly faulty, 4 out of the 10 LED's are dead, I am going to try and repair that.

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The camera has a very tiny red 6 pin plug to allow the cable to pass through a very small hole. Inside the 'van there is this cable assembly

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That seems to take it from the 6 pin plug on the camera to a similar sized black 4 pin male plug that disappears into the wiring of the camper.

In the cab (at least one more larger connector to allow the camper to demount) is a REVCAM UK model No MON2930G V1 monitor that clips to the rear view mirror. That has a similar style but slightly larger 8 pin plug. I have the user manual for the display unit.

The interconnecting cable assembly has a tag with RVCAM-001 on it. Googling that yields no results.

Likewise searching Revcam UK's site for MON2390G reveals nothing.

All I have found so far i there are a plethora of different connectors used and no particular standards.

Anyone solved this conundrum?

I will attempt to contact the manufacturer of the camper to see what they say, but the most disappointing thing is lack of any details on most of the kit, It is only 3 years old.
 
Many fail at about 10 years I was told no parts available but good look , I fitted a autovox wireless kit .very easy fit ,
 
Yes I am finding a void of information. I am beginning to think I am going to have to reverse engineer a solution. i.e. while the unit is electrically working break into the wiring and identify the function of each core, so I can then engineer a.n.other camera to connect to it.

If I do that, I will separate any replacement camera from the brake light unit.

I await a reply from the manufacturer.
 
I am very tempted to buy one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Universal-...8902&sprefix=reversing+camera,aps,161&sr=8-12

Ultimately my 4 core cable will contain ground, 12V dc and video plus something to select from rear view to parking view. It should not be difficult to work that out. It I could get a cheap camera like this working then I would immediately buy another 2 to keep as spares.

This also sets an expectation of what the bare camera module should actually cost.

It is likely that the square block in the adaptor cable I have is a voltage regulator meaning my existing camera works on less than 12V.
 
Yes I have seen all those. They are all cameras to fit particular vehicles. And cheapest is £89.

And the 6 pin plug is unusual. I have yet to find one that has this very small 6 pin plug on the lead from the camera.

Unless I get a sensible reply from the manufacturer of the camper I am definitely leaning to separating the brake light from the camera and just making the wiring connections to connect the cables I have to an off the shelf cheap camera, and when I get one working, but a couple more as spares.

It is the lack of documentation that really gets my goat, I don't know who made the original, nothing to say, and I know nothing about the electrical connections. A poor situation.
 
The small plug connector doesn't really matter, it's the 4 pin you need to connect to get back to the monitor. I messed around for a while when mine packed up and used wireless for a while before deciding on a new hard wired kit. I had thought it was a cable fault on mine though which is why I held off so long.

In the end it was real easy, original cable was good, fitted camera on the rear and connected to original cable via the 4 pin connector and away we went.

I just bought a cheap generic kit off Amazon, think it was only around 30/40 pounds and included loads of cable and monitor. Hope yours is a easy to sort
 
Yes that is what I think I will end up doing. What is bugging me though, is all the cheap cameras I can find seem to terminate in two phono plug sized connectors requiring quite a large hole through the back of the 'van to pass them through. The original camera with it's little 6 pin connector was much neater in that respect.

Whatever I do, when I get a replacement camera working, I will buy a couple more as spares.

Another thing bugging me is the pathetic user manual for the display does not tell me the screen resolution or whether it is PAL or NTSC or will accept either. That's a bit more guesswork / hope when buying a replacement camera which is why I will only buy cheap cameras.
 
I've previously swapped the camera because the one supplied wasn't suitable. Had concerns that cameras weren't interchangeable but it worked fine. The plug/ socket wasn't compatible so had to cut them off and solder but it wasn't hard working out what went where with a multimeter and a bit of common sense.
 
I had twin cams on a 6 pin PS2 (yes playstaion connector)used by CKO cameras. I cut off the Y connector and soldered these patch wires on to the 6 wires to enable standard wired cams to be fitted

https://www.parkingcameras.com/store/cab041-4-pin-male-bare-wires.html
That same company made up a bespoke connection lead on a new camera suitable for the unusual wiring run on my Burstner. They even made it and sent it before they received back the camera I had originally ordered. I cannot praise them highly enough. Great service.
 
That same company made up a bespoke connection lead on a new camera suitable for the unusual wiring run on my Burstner. They even made it and sent it before they received back the camera I had originally ordered. I cannot praise them highly enough. Great service.
Yes they were very helpful in supplying the bits I needed wth a string of emails and as you say bespoke items too.
 
Yes I have seen all those. They are all cameras to fit particular vehicles. And cheapest is £89.

And the 6 pin plug is unusual. I have yet to find one that has this very small 6 pin plug on the lead from the camera.

Unless I get a sensible reply from the manufacturer of the camper I am definitely leaning to separating the brake light from the camera and just making the wiring connections to connect the cables I have to an off the shelf cheap camera, and when I get one working, but a couple more as spares.

It is the lack of documentation that really gets my goat, I don't know who made the original, nothing to say, and I know nothing about the electrical connections. A poor situation.
If you are just looking for the cheapest fix possible then I cannot be of help. If you were looking at a replacement unit, you could look for the part number and make of the red plastic brake light cover and follow that up. I have done that a couple of times over the years and it paid off.
 
I am after a solution. Not necessarily the cheapest (that would be the £5.99 camera and some soldering)

What I have found so far is a total lack of part numbers anywhere, that is not good. Not even on the brake light assembly. That in itself suggests it was cheap rubbish used from new, pretty poor for an £800 option to include the read view camera system when the camper was new.

If I could find an identical replacement camera I would buy it if the price was not silly, but past experience has shown something like this would only be available as a complete unit camera and brake lights. "the public" are not supposed to dismantle these sorts of things to just replace the bit they need.
 
Yes that is what I think I will end up doing. What is bugging me though, is all the cheap cameras I can find seem to terminate in two phono plug sized connectors requiring quite a large hole through the back of the 'van to pass them through. The original camera with it's little 6 pin connector was much neater in that respect.

Whatever I do, when I get a replacement camera working, I will buy a couple more as spares.

Another thing bugging me is the pathetic user manual for the display does not tell me the screen resolution or whether it is PAL or NTSC or will accept either. That's a bit more guesswork / hope when buying a replacement camera which is why I will only buy cheap cameras.
Had a dig back in my Amazon account and found the kit I bought, it is not available now but it did give me the info I think you need to be looking for a 4 pin aviation camera. When I do a search for just that in amazon I get cameras starting around £13, have allowed yourself and see what you think.

From memory the connector is bigger than that small connector in your original but only one plug.

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