Coolasluck
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How dare you,dont even think about it!If you have that bit of Gypsy in you then you will want to travel,its gotta be a motorhome all day long,in fact anything else is just like glue sniffing!!
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barryd
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I'm getting about 26mpg out of mine, Hint!!! Don't drive a Kontiki at 80mph
Ive never had 26mpg. Maybe 24 but generally between 17 and 22. How fast to you drive? I get on the motorway and try and drive at 55-60 and get fed up after 5 miles and do 70. I reckon it does better on A and B roads than the motorway. I havent really acurately measured it though as I dont really care. I reckon the bike on the back will make a difference though.
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Thats the speed i do on the motorway,relaxing and stress free,that would be the case if you were not getting overtaken by tailgating lorries.
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Me I get to 58 - 60 and put the cruise control on, its bloody boring but I think thats the best speed for fuel consumption.
Lower the speed and its a problem everytime you get a slight hill you end up putting your foot down
Any faster than 60 and it looks like you have a leak in the tank
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Me I get to 58 - 60 and put the cruise control on, its bloody boring but I think thats the best speed for fuel consumption.
Lower the speed and its a problem everytime you get a slight hill you end up putting your foot down
Any faster than 60 and it looks like you have a leak in the tank
That explains it then. Heavy right foot! Have you got a GL or Ghia Kontiki then? Whats all this about cruise control? Have I got one? Cos if I have I dont know where it is.
I think there must be something about the 60mph limit on vehicles that suddenly lowers fuel consumption. Mrs D has a Diesel Micra which has all sorts of computers and stuff in it. I once drove it from Leeds to home (70 miles) at just under 60mph and watched the MPG computer. At the end of the journey it averaged 81 mpg but it felt like Id driven from London! Both the Golf and the micra suddenly plumit after 65mph (still very good though).
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Its after market, came with the rig, Someone in the past had a lot of money
Satalite fitted, aircon, cruise control. When I got it they added no value but they are nice to have.The cruise control is 'Gold Cruise' with a CMIR unit on the steering wheel using an AP300 Aftermarket Cruise Control Kits | Conrad Anderson UK
if you have some money to spend, £200 fitted I think, I would recommend one. Any long motorway journey is a lot easier it will keep you to your best speed for consumption but for me being 6'4'' it means I can move my legs about and not end up with cramp in my right foot
ajs
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Me I get to 58 - 60 and put the cruise control on, its bloody boring but I think thats the best speed for fuel consumption.
Lower the speed and its a problem everytime you get a slight hill you end up putting your foot down
Any faster than 60 and it looks like you have a leak in the tank
married said:
you pair of wusses... they will do 35mph more than that
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aj
barnybg
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Ok,my 6 berth,does on average from a 2000cc carb model 28 mpg,sometimes a bit more other times a bit less,oh and its petrol if you want to get picky !and since fitting the LPG system,more or less double,if you want to drive at speeds over 80+ dont get a motorhome,there again your not going to pull a caravan at that speed are you mate !!!As that s what the question is about caravan vs camper not how fast YOUR amazing diesel golfis or what THAT does to the gallon,hitch a caravan to it and then see if she pulls 90 with a 50mpg duh...
To compare a medium to big size car pulling a caravan up to 6 berth against a motorhome ????? I'll leave you figure that out....
Ok,my 6 berth,does on average from a 2000cc carb model 28 mpg,sometimes a bit more other times a bit less,oh and its petrol if you want to get picky !and since fitting the LPG system,more or less double,if you want to drive at speeds over 80+ dont get a motorhome,there again your not going to pull a caravan at that speed are you mate !!!As that s what the question is about caravan vs camper not how fast YOUR amazing diesel golfis or what THAT does to the gallon,hitch a caravan to it and then see if she pulls 90 with a 50mpg
duh...To compare a medium to big size car pulling a caravan up to 6 berth against a motorhome ????? I'll leave you figure that out....
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Ok,my 6 berth,does on average from a 2000cc carb model 28 mpg,sometimes a bit more other times a bit less,oh and its petrol if you want to get picky !and since fitting the LPG system,more or less double,if you want to drive at speeds over 80+ dont get a motorhome,there again your not going to pull a caravan at that speed are you mate !!!As that s what the question is about caravan vs camper not how fast YOUR amazing diesel golfis or what THAT does to the gallon,hitch a caravan to it and then see if she pulls 90 with a 50mpg
To compare a medium to big size car pulling a caravan up to 6 berth against a motorhome ????? I'll leave you figure that out....
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Well my CI euro 100 5.5 m I reckon averages 25 mpg with a 2.8 tdi engine.
I tend to travel about at between 55 and 60 mph on open roads.
Motorhome / caravan ? ....both have their advantages and drawbacks.
I guess it is a case of what type of camping you want to partake in neither can be 100 percent of things to all people.
When touring France for the aires and convenience I would have taken a MH everytime. That said working in the Dordogne for three months in one spot a car and caravan would have been more useful.
I think if you want to take advantage of some of the long term deals available here with the CC or say winter in Spain on a site for 3 months a caravan outfit is possibly more practical.
A caravan /car outfit it seems also is not as significant investment.
Pay ye rmoney take your choice...is my thoughts
Channa
I tend to travel about at between 55 and 60 mph on open roads.
Motorhome / caravan ? ....both have their advantages and drawbacks.
I guess it is a case of what type of camping you want to partake in neither can be 100 percent of things to all people.
When touring France for the aires and convenience I would have taken a MH everytime. That said working in the Dordogne for three months in one spot a car and caravan would have been more useful.
I think if you want to take advantage of some of the long term deals available here with the CC or say winter in Spain on a site for 3 months a caravan outfit is possibly more practical.
A caravan /car outfit it seems also is not as significant investment.
Pay ye rmoney take your choice...is my thoughts
Channa
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Everybody thinks Motorhomes under 3.5 tonne can travel at 70 mph because they are taxed the same as a car. That is not so. Most modern Motorhomes will be limited to 60 mph. The weight limit (from memory) is either 3.05 or 3.2 tonnes. It is definitely not 3.5 tonnes.
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Yeah but I can do that 365 days a year, you have to have several days forced rest every year
bastidihateyou
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This may help ...and friggin sent me to sleep
Item 1.
A passenger vehicle, motor caravan or dual purpose vehicle not drawing a trailer being a vehicle with an unladen weight exceeding 3.05 tonnes or adapted to carry more than 8 passengers, is limited to a maximum speed of:
70 mph whilst being driven on a motorway,
(60 mph if the overall length exceeds 12 metres)
60 mph on a dual carriageway not being a motorway, and
50 mph on any other road.
Item 2
An invalid carriage is limited to a maximum speed of 20 mph.
Item 3.
A passenger vehicle, motor caravan, car-derived van, or dual-purpose vehicle drawing one trailer is limited to a maximum speed of:
60 mph on a motorway or dual-carriageway, and
50 mph on any other road.
Item 4.
A passenger vehicle, motor caravan, car-derived van or dual-purpose vehicle drawing more than one trailer is limited to a maximum speed of:
40 mph on a motorway, and
20 mph elsewhere.
Item 5(1).
A goods vehicle having a maximum laden weight not exceeding 7.5 tonnes and which is not an articulated vehicle, or drawing a trailer, or a car-derived van is limited to a maximum speed of:
70 mph on a motorway,
60 mph on a dual-carriageway not being a motorway, and
50 mph on any other road.
Item 5(2)(a).
A goods vehicle which is an articulated vehicle having a maximum laden weight not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, or a motor vehicle, not being a car-derived van, which is drawing one trailer and the aggregate maximum laden weight of the motor vehicle and the trailer does not exceed 7.5 tonnes is limited to a maximum speed of:
60 mph on a motorway or dual carriageway, and 50 mph on any other road.
Item 5(2)(b).
An articulated vehicle having a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes, a motor vehicle having a maximum laden weight exceeding 7.5 tonnes and not drawing a trailer, or a motor vehicle drawing one trailer where the aggregate maximum laden weight of the motor vehicle and the trailer exceeds 7.5 tonnes is limited to a maximum speed of:
60 mph on a motorway,
50 mph on a dual-carriageway not being a motorway, and
40 mph on any other road.
Item 5(2)(c).
A motor vehicle, other than a car-derived van, drawing more than one trailer is limited to a maximum speed of:
40 mph on a motorway, and
20 mph elsewhere.
Item 6.
A motor tractor (other than an industrial tractor), a light locomotive or a heavy locomotive:
(a) if the provisions about springs and wings are complied with and the vehicle is not drawing a trailer, or if those provisions are complied with and the vehicle is drawing one trailer which also complies with those provisions the maximum speed limit is:
40 mph on a motorway, and
30 mph on any other road.
(b) in any other circumstances the maximum speed limit is 20 mph on all roads.
Item 7
A works truck is limited to a maximum speed of 18 mph on all roads.
Item 8.
An industrial tractor is limited to a maximum speed of 18 mph.
Item 9.
An agricultural motor vehicle is limited to a maximum speed of 40 mph on all roads.
NOTES:
This Part applies only to motor vehicles, not being track laying vehicle, every wheel of which is fitted with a pneumatic tyre and to such vehicles drawing one or more trailers, not being track-laying vehicles, every wheel of which is fitted with a pneumatic tyre.
I have added some descriptions of vehicle classes
PASSENGER VEHICLE
A vehicle constructed solely for the carriage of passengers and their effects.
MOTOR CARAVAN
A vehicle is a motor caravan if it is a motor vehicle which is constructed or adapted for the carriage of passengers and their effects and which contains, as permanently installed equipment, the facilities which are reasonably necessary for enabling the vehicle to provide mobile living accommodation for its users
GOODS VEHICLE
A motor vehicle constructed or adapted for use for the carriage of goods, or a trailer so constructed or adapted.
CAR DERIVED VAN
A goods vehicle which is constructed or adapted as a derivative of a passenger vehicle and which has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 2 tonnes.
DUAL PURPOSE VEHICLE
A vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage of both passengers and of goods or burden of any description, being a vehicle of which the unladen weight does not exceed 2040 kg., and which either:
(i) is so constructed or adapted that the driving power of the engine is, or by the appropriate use of the controls of the vehicle can be, transmitted to all the wheels of the vehicle;
Or
(ii) satisfies the following conditions as to construction, namely:
(a) the vehicle must be permanently fitted with a rigid roof, with or without a sliding panel;
(b) the area of the vehicle to the rear of the driver's seat must:
(i) be permanently fitted with at least one row of transverse seats (fixed or folding) for two or more passengers and those seats must be properly sprung or cushioned and provided with upholstered back-rests, attached either to the seats or to a side or the floor of the vehicle; and
(ii) be lit on each side and at the rear by a window or windows of glass or other transparent material having an area or aggregate area of not less than 1850 square centimetres on each side and not less than 770 square centimetres at the rear; and
(c) the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the back-rests of the row of transverse seats satisfying the requirements specified in head (i) of sub- paragraph (b) (or, if there is more than one such row of seats, the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the back-rests of the rearmost such row) must, when the seats are ready for use, be not less than one-third of the distance between the rearmost part of the steering wheel and the rearmost part of the floor of the vehicle.
Your vehicle may qualify as a dual purpose vehicle, if, along with the permanently fixed seats you pass the following driteria also:
It would have to have unladen weight of less than 2040kgs
It would have to have windows behind the B pillar, more than about 16 inches square on each side (or the equivalent sized rectangle) and the rear glass need only be more than 11 inches square.
You would also have to comply with the +1/3 passenger space rule as in part c above.
If your vehicle satisfies all those rules, then it could be a dual-purpose vehicle, and therefore worth a letter to CSCP at least, because a dual-purpose vehicle would be legally allowed to travel at 70mph.
Yawn dont say you weren't warned
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Flipping Heck Channa!
So my MH can do 70 on a motorway but only 60 and 50 on dual carrageway and normal roads where the limits for cars are 70 and 60. News to me.
Bet the coppers dont know as ive been followed a couple of times at 60+ on A roads and never been pulled
So my MH can do 70 on a motorway but only 60 and 50 on dual carrageway and normal roads where the limits for cars are 70 and 60. News to me.
Bet the coppers dont know as ive been followed a couple of times at 60+ on A roads and never been pulled
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I would agree its probable your average copper doesn't know.
Traffic officers ( who seem a rareity nowadays) are more likely to stop you, and I think it would be an unfortunate shout tbh. Far more likely to concentrate on peeps exceeding posted limits, If I were to look at your van tbh I would have no idea if it wighed more than 3.05 tonnes.
However I have to concur with Maingates original statement.
Channa
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I don't think the 60 and 50 limits for the 3.5 tonne white van man are enforced very much actually. I often drive on the A505 dual carriageway and am passed by Mercedes Sprinters doing about 80-90. In fact they are regularly some of the fastest vehicles on the road.
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I would agree, TBH I often wonder how many drivers are actually blissfully unaware that there are reduced limits.
In terms of speed enforcement I suspect it is far easier for the 'scammers' to simply catch a motorist exceeding the posted limit using camera equipment etc.
I am told that the latest Specs cameras are able to differentiate between vehicles so we might see more prosecutions of white van man.
Apparently they record the number plate and speed then using existing ANPR technology via DVLA database issue the summons.
The current crop of cameras I am told trigger at a threshold speed so that would go a long way to explaining the lack of prosecutions a 3.5 tonne van doing 68 in a 70 despite the limit being 60 doesnt trigger the camera if that makes sense albeit an offence as been committed.
Channa