getting a bit bloody close !

[runnach]

More the insurance companies twitching I would think or abta, bookings before the outbreak I would expect to be covered insurers take into account what was foreign office guidelines at the time of booking

We know and have enought t shirts to know that the authorities only tell us what they want us to know,,,,like others here I am starting to wonder if the true impact of corona viirus is being disclosed,,,,,,,dumbing down by authorities in order to avoid mass panic

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Can't speak for coronovirus per se, but I'm surely not the only person on the planet who's been aware of the big increase in cough/chest/respiratory 'viruses', usually hitting over the winter period, during the last 2 or 3 years?

Nearly all friends and relatives have succumbed to a few bouts of said 'viruses', all similar but with varying degrees of 'symptoms'.

I picked one up less than two weeks after my last major chemo session in October last year.

Cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough..... slight shortness of breath, not significant, but didn't have a temperature as far as I recall.

Felt rough as a badger's bum for a week then slowly got better.
Took about 4-5 weeks before I felt normal-ish again and haven't picked up anything else since - fingers crossed!

Look at Tezza and Maggy - they've been suffering for months from nasty chest/cough infections that they can't seem to get rid of with all their van plans on hold as a result.

I have a very good friend who picked up a coughing virus last November and is still suffering now - very badly the last month as it has turned into something called 'laryngospasm' and her lungs are all inflamed as a result. She's now on steroids, inhalers and gawd knows what from the doc, unable to work as sleeping most of the time - which is NOT her, she's an extreme workaholic so to say she's cheesed off is an understatement.

And that's not counting nearly everybody else I know succumbing to similar 'viruses' the length and breadth.

Are these circulating viruses all related to each other and possibly to the new and nastier 'morphed' coronovirus?

I'm no medical expert, but something is not right ....

 

[maingate]

That's all due to hundreds of years of inbreeding up where you live. You haven't even mentioned the webbed feet and 12 finger problem.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

That's all due to hundreds of years of inbreeding up where you live. You haven't even mentioned the webbed feet and 12 finger problem.

Really?

Must say I've never noticed Tezza's webbed feet cos he always wears his boots, plus he lives down Midlands way.
I gather he's a bit of a card shark so maybe that's why - he moves those 12 fingers so fast you never get time to stop and count them

 

[in h]

Is 100 million one billion?

No. One billion is either 1,000,000,000,000 (a million millions) if you are a scientist based in the UK, or it is 1,000,000,000 (a thousand million) if you are an American or a politician.
To get an idea of how much a billion is (even the small sort), if you were paid £1,000 per day and you paid no tax (as most billionaires don't), working 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year, you would be paid a billion pounds in a mere four thousand years of working.
Most billionaires look a lot younger than that.

 

[witzend]

Looks like those in charge are starting to take a interest at last

Major events could be cancelled and schools closed for two months

Major events could be cancelled and schools closed for two months

Concerns have been raised over events like Glastonbury, Ascot and Euro 2020 as the UK health chiefs say the coronavirus could mean no huge sporting or entertainment events for at least two months in a bid to curb the outbreak, with schools also potentially closed

tinyurl.com

 

[antiquesam]

It's all getting a bit silly. The other half woke up this morning complaining about being shivery and quesy. Her first thought was "have I got it?", not what did I put down my throat last night.

 

[edina]

It's all getting a bit silly. The other half woke up this morning complaining about being shivery and quesy. Her first thought was "have I got it?", not what did I put down my throat last night.

TMI

 

[Dezi]

My niece and family have done the first week of not going out and surprisingly no one has been strangled by the others.

Travels in Italy, from niece.
A line has been drawn from Pisa to Rimini and all northern Italy above this line is a suspect area.
However if you a due to travel south of this line, to Pompeii for instance, in a motorhome all is not lost.

From Vipiteno on the Brenner and just inside Italy to Riccione, south of the line can be done in about 5 hours.

Or from Monaco to Livorno is about 4.5 hours.

Just makes sure that you fill up before you start, stick to the autostrada, I know its painful paying, and do not stop or leave the van in the infected area.

Sensible advice and worth taking.

Northern Italy is huge and the infected towns only cover a small area.

Dezi

 

[izwozral]

Can't speak for coronovirus per se, but I'm surely not the only person on the planet who's been aware of the big increase in cough/chest/respiratory 'viruses', usually hitting over the winter period, during the last 2 or 3 years?

Nearly all friends and relatives have succumbed to a few bouts of said 'viruses', all similar but with varying degrees of 'symptoms'.

I picked one up less than two weeks after my last major chemo session in October last year.

Cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough..... slight shortness of breath, not significant, but didn't have a temperature as far as I recall.

Felt rough as a badger's bum for a week then slowly got better.
Took about 4-5 weeks before I felt normal-ish again and haven't picked up anything else since - fingers crossed!

Look at Tezza and Maggy - they've been suffering for months from nasty chest/cough infections that they can't seem to get rid of with all their van plans on hold as a result.

I have a very good friend who picked up a coughing virus last November and is still suffering now - very badly the last month as it has turned into something called 'laryngospasm' and her lungs are all inflamed as a result. She's now on steroids, inhalers and gawd knows what from the doc, unable to work as sleeping most of the time - which is NOT her, she's an extreme workaholic so to say she's cheesed off is an understatement.

And that's not counting nearly everybody else I know succumbing to similar 'viruses' the length and breadth.

Are these circulating viruses all related to each other and possibly to the new and nastier 'morphed' coronovirus?

I'm no medical expert, but something is not right ....

One thing I've noticed is that people rarely get the common cold these days, the sneezing, runny nose variety, over and done with in 3-4 days. Like you say Marie, people get a virus that lasts for days, if you are lucky, or a lot longer if unlucky and they can be far more debilitating than the common cold.

Could part of the problem be due to poor air quality or people over sanitising themselves, I dunno?

 

[mariesnowgoose]

One thing I've noticed is that people rarely get the common cold these days, the sneezing, runny nose variety, over and done with in 3-4 days. Like you say Marie, people get a virus that lasts for days, if you are lucky, or a lot longer if unlucky and they can be far more debilitating than the common cold.

Could part of the problem be due to poor air quality or people over sanitising themselves, I dunno?

Poor air quality would probably be the first one I'd plump for.

Maybe, just maybe - conspiracy theories and chemical weapons aside - mother nature is flexing her muscles and doing what she does best; keeping overpopulation in check.

Think about it. Lots of us all jammed together in various places in less than hygienic circumstances - OK, so its not quite Victorian slum conditions these days, but that's why more recent diseases seem to have got very good at morphing and why antibiotics aren't working any more. New diseases (mother nature!) are bound to crop up naturally if they find good breeding grounds to fester in. Think rabbits and myxomatosis...

The population of Wuhan is nearly 12 million and the air quality out there probably leaves a lot to be desired.
How many people cram together in the London underground every day?
How many people spend hours in the sky sharing the same recycled air on plane flights?
I'm sure there are lots more examples...

Maybe I'm being naive and stupid here, but something like this latest coronovirus is perhaps just an inevitable consequence of congested & polluted modern living? (and Mother Nature!)

 

[Derekoak]

If mother nature was keeping population in check properly, the disease would kill reproductive age women not only old people

 

[mariesnowgoose]

If mother nature was keeping population in check properly, the disease would kill reproductive age women not only old people

Ahem..

Kill reproductive age men as well please, let's keep some balance!

There are more of you anyway, so we can definitely afford to lose a few

 

[mark61]

Ahem..

Kill reproductive age men as well please, let's keep some balance!

There are more of you anyway, so we can definitely afford to lose a few

With her ultimate wisdom, thats not the way mother nature works. You can reduce reproductive men by 99%, makes little difference, thought the 1% left won't have much time for watching porn.

Also, enjoying humans judging mother nature if she's doing things properly or not.

 

[runnach]

Ahem..

Kill reproductive age men as well please, let's keep some balance!

There are more of you anyway, so we can definitely afford to lose a few

Wars and conflicts do that

 

[izwozral]

Male fertility is in decline. Mother Nature?

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Wars and conflicts do that

Women die in wars too don't forget and not many of them sign up for military service either.

 

[Bigshug]

Ahem..

Kill reproductive age men as well please, let's keep some balance!

There are more of you anyway, so we can definitely afford to lose a few

Well mother nature should leave me well alone, unfortunately don’t think there is any danger of me increasing the world population.

 

[Derekoak]

Ahem..

Kill reproductive age men as well please, let's keep some balance!

There are more of you anyway, so we can definitely afford to lose a few

I did not mention men because they are close to irrelevant to the final outcome, not because they need protectìng . I was not suggesting this as policy just pointing out what would be needed for mother nature to fulfil that aim.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

With her ultimate wisdom, thats not the way mother nature works. You can reduce reproductive men by 99%, makes little difference, thought the 1% left won't have much time for watching porn.

Also, enjoying humans judging mother nature if she's doing things properly or not.

I think you need to tell Derek that, Mark. He suggested nature should kill reproductive age women to keep population in bounds, not me, I just responded to his comment

Nature fulfils the aim of keeping population levels within bounds for certain animals by them naturally adjusting to not enough space/food/resources etc. to make it worth breeding, so they just stop breeding.

Humans need wars and pandemics to achieve the same end result because, unfortunately, there is no inbuilt natural mechanism to make us stop breeding when conditions aren't suitable.

Take a look at Africa and just be grateful we were all lucky enough to be born into an advanced, wealthy nation.
Wars and pandemics are already natural mechanisms for reducing human population size.

Suggesting mother nature come up with a selective way of culling females as opposed to males is kind of skewed logic on Dereks's part, and hints slightly at misogynism to me.

Plus, if men are so irrelevant in both your scenarios, then the world can easily afford to lose a few, no?

There are more of you than women anyway. Simples. Bye bye! 🖐