Gas vs. Electric kettle?

[Robmac]

To all who think that any addition to a motorhome has hardly any effect on fuel consumption, just note the lengths that F1 car designers go to, to gain more power, and yet conserve fuel.
It doesn't really mater what you think, it's what physics dictates, that is the deciding factor. Who was it, that said " There are none so blind, as the wilfully blind"
To argue against this, is to argue against physics, not against my opinion.
I'm not against solar, and I have meticulous records, of my 11yr old domestic system, so I am fully aware of solar generation, in my part of the UK, and this is with the panels angled and pointed towards the south. Still all but useless, in the UK winter.

Of course there will be some effect when you add weight to any vehicle. I didn't notice any difference in fuel consumption when I added my 100W flexible panel though. So therefore the difference is negligible.

But I'm not "wilfully blind", I'm just not trying to shave fractions of a second off of my arrival time at my destination!

 

[Robmac]

Slow tonight Rob.
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Yeah I can see why they would want to get their legs into their underwear Trev. But why the kettle? That's for boiling water.

 

[Robmac]

Have you an inverter Rob to run this.

No only use it on EHU Trev.

I do have a small (300W) inverter but it's in the shed somewhere as too small to be of any real use.

 

[wildebus]

To all who think that any addition to a motorhome has hardly any effect on fuel consumption, just note the lengths that F1 car designers go to, to gain more power, and yet conserve fuel.
It doesn't really mater what you think, it's what physics dictates, that is the deciding factor. Who was it, that said " There are none so blind, as the wilfully blind"
To argue against this, is to argue against physics, not against my opinion.
I'm not against solar, and I have meticulous records, of my 11yr old domestic system, so I am fully aware of solar generation, in my part of the UK, and this is with the panels angled and pointed towards the south. Still all but useless, in the UK winter.

The typical Motorhomer who may well fill up with Water before heading away - adding 100Kg of weight - is not the sign of a person who would be overly concerned about choosing an extra 20kg of solar panel framing.
Take the Water, plus tins of food, etc. in the cupboards. All of which would be likely available at the destination (I don't think many F1 drivers carry their lunch in their race cars glovebox )

 

[Boris7]

I’ve been in love with the idea of a Kelly kettle for many years, but I never quite convince myself it’s a good idea.

 

[mistericeman]

I’ve been in love with the idea of a Kelly kettle for many years, but I never quite convince myself it’s a good idea.

I tried one ....

Prefer my Coleman petrol stoves

 

[trevskoda]

No only use it on EHU Trev.

I do have a small (300W) inverter but it's in the shed somewhere as too small to be of any real use.

Could be useful in the electric cupboard connected to a battery to power the led house lights/heating in a power cut, you would require an isolation switch, iv been thinking about doing this.

 

[st3v3]

Tentock Camping Kettle with Foldable Handle Fast Heating Gas Teapot Outdoor Compact Lightweight Whistling Aluminium Kettles 1L / 1.6L​

Unfortunately the reviews mention it not whistling, despite the title.

 

[st3v3]

To all who think that any addition to a motorhome has hardly any effect on fuel consumption, just note the lengths that F1 car designers go to, to gain more power, and yet conserve fuel.

20kg on a 800kg near perfect aerodynamic shape compared to something that could be nearly 10 times the weight and the shape of of a barn* isn't really the same now is it?

* That's probably unfair to barns TBH.

Still all but useless, in the UK winter.

All but useless is very different to useless, when you might only want to charge a phone...

 

[Robmac]

I tried one ....

Prefer my Coleman petrol stoves

Brilliant bit of kit.

I have an ancient one somewhere. When I used it whilst night fishing, the kettle used to practically hover over the flames!

 

[mistericeman]

Brilliant bit of kit.

I have an ancient one somewhere. When I used it whilst night fishing, the kettle used to practically hover over the flames!

I've a couple of Single burner ones around and a couple of twin burner suitcase ones and a triple burner beast of a thing ...

As well as a few ex military ones of various flavours including a No1 trench cooker (2 gallons of pressurised petrol with a huge horizontal jet that fires along a trench withetal plates over it )

 

[Robmac]

I've a couple of Single burner ones around and a couple of twin burner suitcase ones and a triple burner beast of a thing ...

As well as a few ex military ones of various flavours including a No1 trench cooker (2 gallons of pressurised petrol with a huge horizontal jet that fires along a trench withetal plates over it )

I rediscovered mine a couple of years back in the garage, it is the single burner model.

God knows how many years it had sat there but it still had equally old petrol in it and believe it or not it fired up!

I must dig it out again.

 

[mistericeman]

I rediscovered mine a couple of years back in the garage, it is the single burner model.

God knows how many years it had sat there but it still had equally old petrol in it and believe it or not it fired up!

I must dig it out again.

Tough old things ....
Worst that usually happens is dried out seals or residue from using unleaded fuel rather than the ludicrous coleman stuff .

Never found anything that's better to be honest and the suitcase ones will take a metal ammo box on them as an oven for baking/pies/naan breads etc

 

[saxonborg]

Bought a Sigg Firejet petrol stove in the nineties, well built and very compact but a nightmare to run. I used Coleman fuel but it needed a overhaul every time it was used so I reverted to a Coleman Alpine gas stove, bit heavier overall but no faffing about.

 

[Robmac]

Tough old things ....
Worst that usually happens is dried out seals or residue from using unleaded fuel rather than the ludicrous coleman stuff .

Never found anything that's better to be honest and the suitcase ones will take a metal ammo box on them as an oven for baking/pies/naan breads etc

I've used old biscuit tins now as a sort of one trip disposable oven.

 

[Deleted member 95622]

In my early camping days I had a Coleman Peak 1 stove. It was fantastic. Who'd have thought: Lets take a cylinder of petrol, pressurise it, pass the fuel pipe over the burner to boil the petrol on it's way to the burner to increase the pressure, then cook on it. ... It went missing during a house move and I did miss it.

Back to the 'van - ran out of gas last night - the 3-cartridge thingy started with one full and 2 half full when I got it, so the few trips I've used it so-far has resulted in a feeling of "unimpressed". (I've no idea why you might only change one canister at a time though, but maybe as they're bought in packs of 4 then who knows). However all 3 were empty, so 3 new ones and it was good. Going to get a 1KW kettle and see how it compares.

Cheers,

-G

 

[mistericeman]

Here's my Ex military No1 burner/Trench cooker in action .

 

[saxonborg]

Here's my Ex military No1 burner/Trench cooker in action .

Looks like the afterburners on a Tornado.

 

[mistericeman]

Looks like the afterburners on a Tornado.

Probably about the same fuel consumption lol ....

Apparantly in service it was 50/50 between returning to a hot meal and a burned cook and the No1 burner buried to put it out lol .

The same pressure vessel/pump was also used on the No5 field cooker and the No4 field kitchen ....
Before the British army phased out the use of petrol in favour of propane (most of the existing kit was converted )
Has to be said having a couple of the No5 cookers they can empty a large propane bottle in short order (I've used them for cooking curry etc for 60 odd folks at land-rover events )

 

[saxonborg]

Probably about the same fuel consumption lol ....

Apparantly in service it was 50/50 between returning to a hot meal and a burned cook and the No1 burner buried to put it out lol .

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The same pressure vessel/pump was also used on the No5 field cooker and the No4 field kitchen ....
Before the British army phased out the use of petrol in favour of propane (most of the existing kit was converted )
Has to be said having a couple of the No5 cookers they can empty a large propane bottle in short order (I've used them for cooking curry etc for 60 odd folks at land-rover events )

Impressive piece of kit, and when you are not cooking with it you could use it to make bricks to line the trench.