French Speeding fine increased & Royal Mail!

[REC]

I get reminders by text for Mot and knew that was due while away but had escaped me that tax was due as that reminder comes by letter. Now taxed and Mot'd and waiting to see if I get a fine for no sorn! Contacted Royal Mail who inferred ( wait till I get the letter!) that they will consider repayment of any fines due to their incompetence. The Royal Mail apologised profusely and are now "investigating" . Had a letter delivered today for house with same number, but different road, town, county and postcode!

 

[2cv]

Although the no SORN fine is supposed to be automatic, I know of a few who have forgotten and it’s not been imposed.

 

[davecumbria]

just to clarify the situation

HGVs (not heavy Motorhomes, proper HGVs) have had their MOTs extended by 3 months
Cars, vans under 3.5t, and motorhomes (including PHGV Motorhomes) have had their MOTs extended by 6 months - so the MOT is still valid and just as before, just given an extra automatic 6 months

But .... the 6 month extension only applies if the MOT is valid and was due on the 31st March or later. So any car (or motorhome) whose MOT expired on 30th March or before will need a new MOT to be legal on the road, and to be able to be taxed.
It is still possible to get MOTs carried out and vehicles repaired, but the extension was to reduce the need to go out to garages to get MOTs done (which was good I think considering the massively reduced mileage most people are doing. My car did just 104 miles last month)

My dealer tells me that there is no provision for a MOT test on my scooter locally here.

 

[jacquigem]

I did not see the dd for the scooter and only knew the mot was out when I got a gov letter say they were unable to tax it until it got a mot.
I did the mot and they automatically taxed it , I was going to sorn it but they beat me to it so I just left it taxed and tested in the garage covered in they rest of my stuff.
I have limited space for paperwork and my computer skills aren't up to much.........

I would be a little careful if you are relying on a general"business equipment" item to cover the scooter as there is often an exclusion of motor vehicles in the definition of business equipment . Might be worth checking if important .

 

[Drover]

I would be a little careful if you are relying on a general"business equipment" item to cover the scooter as there is often an exclusion of motor vehicles in the definition of business equipment . Might be worth checking if important .

All fine thanks as ive retired. I changed all over to pleasure and to be honest there was very little change in the cost..... loving life doing nothing

 

[Fazerloz]

My dealer tells me that there is no provision for a MOT test on my scooter locally here.

They do not alter the MOT renewal date on the DVLA until a week before it is due. Then you will be able to tax.

 

[REC]

well!
I sent the letter and payment to French aurthorities for the fine from Jan 2020, heard nothing back but assumed all ok as this was done in May. Today had a "registered letter" which required a signature, put through our letter box. Also a receipt which royal mail should have removed and sent back to France. They now want 180 euros....no longer have the proof of posting for the 45 euros paid in May. Tempted to just ignore it a no proof we have had the letter. But travelling through france again December! Are they likely to follow it up after ******, does anyone know? Really p**d off as paid the blooming fine!

 

[REC]

BTW, Got a full refund for the non redirection from Royal Mail, as I had photos of an enormous pile of post on our doormat. They never advised that Government mail is not redirected so assume that was a misunderstanding by OP.
No problem following lack of SORN.

 

[trevskoda]

Oh I read the dodgy info...

FYI
"What happens if you do not get a SORN?
You will get an Insurance Advisory Letter if your car does not appear on the Motor Insurance Database (MID), a record of all insured cars in the UK.

The letter will tell you that your car is uninsured and that you face a fine if you do not either arrange insurance and tax or register your car with a SORN. If you ignore this letter you could face:

• A fixed penalty of £100
• Your vehicle being clamped, impounded or destroyed
• A court prosecution, with a fine of up to £1,000

"

PS. you forgot to post the clive mott fuse link for the car that is not being used

Put it up on bricks and then its not on the road,many here do that.

 

[Deleted member 64209]

well!
I sent the letter and payment to French aurthorities for the fine from Jan 2020, heard nothing back but assumed all ok as this was done in May. Today had a "registered letter" which required a signature, put through our letter box. Also a receipt which royal mail should have removed and sent back to France. They now want 180 euros....no longer have the proof of posting for the 45 euros paid in May. Tempted to just ignore it a no proof we have had the letter. But travelling through france again December! Are they likely to follow it up after ******, does anyone know? Really p**d off as paid the blooming fine!

Surely your bank will show your payment...?

 

[Scotia]

Just got back to UK and found we have a speeding fine dated 10/1 but, as away, have only just got it. It has been increased from 45 euros to 180 euros as not paid in time!
my question is, can I argue it as not at home address to get the fine? Can prove this with tunnel tickets.

My other gripe is that b***y Royal Mail were paid to redirect my post and didnt, except for one bundle in April covering four weeks mail. Have I a case to claim it back from them since I would have been told of the fine if they had done as contracted? Have photos of the piles of mail sitting on my mat when we got back this evening! Also had car tax lapse, and an insurance not renewed. In the pile of mail was also several letters for my neighbour, including their bank cards!

Use their bank details to pay the fine!

 

[Snapster]

Don’t know if this is of any use, might be worth a few minutes to see if you can contest the increased fine

https://www.antai.gouv.fr/?lang=en

 

[wildebus]

Put it up on bricks and then its not on the road,many here do that.

Any reason why you quoted my post and made that reply? can't see the connection

Put it up on bricks and then its not on the road,many here do that.

From what I can see, people in NI do a lot of things that would not be legal anywhere else (of maybe even in NI but just get ignored?)

 

[Tezza33]

Put it up on bricks and then its not on the road,many here do that.

It would still be classed as on the road here, also even if it is parked in your garage and the tax runs out you still get a fine if you haven't sorned it

 

[Robmac]

It would still be classed as on the road here, also even if it is parked in your garage and the tax runs out you still get a fine if you haven't sorned it

Same in NI Terry.

 

[REC]

Unfortunately I sent cash by recorded delivery. Had no way of paying euros that I could see and had to send letter explaining. So long ago that I no longer have the receipt.
As the " recorded delivery" letter sent by French was not recorded, I am wondering what their next step would be and when,given it all has taken so long.

 

[REC]

It would still be classed as on the road here, also even if it is parked in your garage and the tax runs out you still get a fine if you haven't sorned it

Luckily no fine on this occasion for lack of SORN.