Forestry and land Stay the Night Cut Short

Fisherman said:
All the campsites up there were either closed or had signs saying they were full. Why they are doing this is beyond me.
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I would guess that the campsites might not worry too much at the moment, but come end of August the bookings will be falling off, so that is why. A short term measure in the high season when the sites are full.
 
colinmd said:
I would guess that the campsites might not worry too much at the moment, but come end of August the bookings will be falling off, so that is why. A short term measure in the high season when the sites are full.
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Most campsites in Scotland are only open in the high season, and closed 6 months of the year. It makes a mockery of the argument about using campsites. When they are open they are mainly full particularly at weekends. As for spontaneity forget it.
 
number14 said:
This is on the forestry survey page.

"If you have any questions or comments about the survey or the trial, please email campervantrial@forestryandland.gov.scot"

SWMBO is on a motorhoming Facebook group (sorry about that) and many there are using the email address to express their disappointment and saying that they are cancelling their Scottish autumn trip whilst adding all the other arguments that we here are familiar with.

I shall add my three penneth later today.
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Email now sent.

Interestingly, whilst the Stay the Night web page still exists, there is no direct link to it from the home page. AFAICS anyway
 
mickymost said:
Just put together and sent my email with my thoughts wonder If Ill get a reply?
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Sent mine two days ago and got a reply, fairly generic they would consider my comments when doing a review of the scheme. I presented the email in a very positive and supportive manner.
 
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can't see how the big campsite groups see this as competition as it's for one night which most don't allow. hope they trial it again next year but already the battle lines are being drawn for some of the suggestions made by local councils and other groups. sad to see self interest is so prevalent
 
I've just had two nights wilding, but it's so hot and I saw a C&CC temporary site listed a few miles down the road and booked it for a couple of nights so that the awning can come out and the chair. Looking along the Dorset coast I think every farmer with a field has opened it as a campsite even if it is at 45 degrees off level.
 
I have received a reply to my email. The body text is below.
Firstly, respect to them for actually replying and quickly - SWMBO also received a reply to her email. As to the content, some is positive but, it seems to me, they were heavily pressured.

"Thank you for your email and your support for the concept behind the trail and we do understand your disappointment.

You make some good and interesting points, which are very much appreciated and understood, and your comments will be added to our discussions at the end of the trial. As you suggest we have and will be looking at the Aires and other European models to see if there is anything we can learn for the future.

Our trial has been met with a very good response. It has proved to be popular and has helped relieve visitor pressures in key locations during the busy holiday season as campsites and caravan grounds have emerged from lockdown and restarted their businesses.

However, as a tourism partner with a vested interest in the return of the sector to full health, we do not want to forestall the gradual recovery of those related businesses and therefore will halt the trial at the end of August.

The good news is we have already learned a great deal and hope to reintroduce a trial next season to allow us to further test and evaluate options for overnight parking.

We do apologise for any disappointment that this might cause but hope that you will understand that this will help to strengthen the sector for the long-term benefit of everyone.

Thanks for taking the time to email us your thoughts.

Best wishes,

Motorhome and Campervan Trial Team"
 
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This is EXACTLY the same reply I received yesterday.Obviously a standard reply letter not personalised to each person emailing them SO is anyone there actually taking our points on board.I dont think so!
 
Bossangel said:
I can remember this site 27 years ago when it was just a tap in the field and sheep bouncing off the tent in the middle of the night, it was a fiver a night back then
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and the customer service second to none
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mickymost said:
This is EXACTLY the same reply I received yesterday.Obviously a standard reply letter not personalised to each person emailing them SO is anyone there actually taking our points on board.I dont think so!
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The email I received didn't mention the bit about tourism
 
My letter

Dear Michael,



Thank you for your email and your support for the concept behind the trail and we do understand your disappointment.



You make some good and interesting points, which are very much appreciated and understood, and your comments will be added to our discussions at the end of the trial. As you suggest we have and will be looking at the Aires and other European models to see if there is anything we can learn for the future.



Our trial has been met with a very good response. It has proved to be popular and has helped relieve visitor pressures in key locations during the busy holiday season as campsites and caravan grounds have emerged from lockdown and restarted their businesses.



However, as a tourism partner with a vested interest in the return of the sector to full health, we do not want to forestall the gradual recovery of those related businesses and therefore will halt the trial at the end of August.



The good news is we have already learned a great deal and hope to reintroduce a trial next season to allow us to further test and evaluate options for overnight parking.



We do apologise for any disappointment that this might cause but hope that you will understand that this will help to strengthen the sector for the long-term benefit of everyone.



Thanks for taking the time to email us your thoughts.



Best wishes,
 
My reply included a reference to the email that my wife had also sent, including her name. I deleted that line on here for reasons of privacy. So, yes, largely a standard response but, at least the personalising means the replies are not generated by a 'bot'.
We can take a 'glass half full' or a 'glass half empty' stance on this issue. For the moment I'm being generous and going 'glass half full'.
 
number14 said:
My reply included a reference to the email that my wife had also sent, including her name. I deleted that line on here for reasons of privacy. So, yes, largely a standard response but, at least the personalising means the replies are not generated by a 'bot'.
We can take a 'glass half full' or a 'glass half empty' stance on this issue. For the moment I'm being generous and going 'glass half full'.
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But it seems they are not personalised its a standard bot sent out reply.
 
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