Extend Schengen Area time to 180 days

[Deleted member 84566]

Here is a great Q&A put out by the 180 Days in Greece. It gives chapter and verse on the current situation on residence permits and visas to stay in Greece for more than 90 days. It is still improving and I have another email from the Greek Ministry promising a long stay visa. No details on that yet.

I'm sure these efforts are being repeated in other EU countries. So my only message is that to say "it isn't worth it as nothing will change" is self evidently false. These groups are achieving much ... and still more to do.

So I just ask not to just dismiss this, as that is counterproductive. There are full anti-change groups - such as one group of permanent residents in Greece that came from the UK years ago - that are campaigning to STOP others from getting these concessions. Apparently they fear it will erode their own rights.

So if you want to be able to do long tours in Europe please help. If not fine - but some others do.

Good luck and keep us informed please, I do love the food over there

 

[John H]

....and Croatia but no wildcamping . 90 days in Turkey without a visa which is godsend for my plans, phew

Turkey actually encourage wildcamping

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True - but too cold for me in winter. I think I'll stick with the Morocco option unless and until the pressure groups succeed in getting changes made to the 90 day rule and/or make it easier to get long stay visas

 

[Colinc]

A further update on getting a Greek resident visa. Greece has announced it accepts proof of temporary residence in Greece in applying for a permit. In other words, you can have been transient in the country without a fixed address - so a motor home tour will be fine. You do need some evidence of if however - but that isn't too hard. So if you have been on tour there in 2020 you can consider this option. Not just for second home and boat owners.

 

[Mick H]

Another thread, that has developed into political views being posted, mainly by the same people!
Please stop it, it's against the forum rules. Lets stick to motorhoming, in general, and wildcamping, in particular.

 

[trevskoda]

I'm seriously thinking of applying for an Irish passport (I'm eligible).

Would love to move to Europe, but figuring we might have missed the boat - by 'we' I mean 'me' and t'other half.
Anyone who is young and fit enough might want to consider moving out of the UK.
This is nothing sudden or new, I've been saying that to youngsters for a long time now.

I can help you move in.

 

[witzend]

Everybody may not want to stay for 180 days away then 180 before return and prefer 90 days away then 90 days before return Myself I'd be happy to leave it as it is have 90 days then stay home June July August then have another 90.
Another thing if just say Greece or Portugal allows 180 how will we manage because we start in France and finish in France

 

[GeoffL]

Everybody may not want to stay for 180 days away then 180 before return and prefer 90 days away then 90 days before return Myself I'd be happy to leave it as it is have 90 days then stay home June July August then have another 90.
Another thing if just say Greece or Portugal allows 180 how will we manage because we start in France and finish in France

Am I missing something here? Doesn't up to 180 days in any 360 day rolling period with 180 day maximum stay allow 90 days in any 180 day rolling period? IOW, I would have thought you could continue having 90 days, then go home for 90 and then back to Schengen for another 90 and then back home for another 90 as you would then have spent 180 days total in 360 days with no stay exceeding 180 days...

 

[Snapster]

Another thing if just say Greece or Portugal allows 180 how will we manage because we start in France and finish in France

I don’t understand how you would be able to. I think the proposed 180 day stays will be aimed at air travellers. The whole Schengen zone will need to changes their rules to allow you to travel through other countries in the zone to get to Portugal ( or Greece)

 

[jacquigem]

My understanding is that you have to treat the whole Schengen zone as one big "country". You are allowed 90 days in in any 180 day period. I reckon you will be picked up at airports, ports, tunnel and any other land borders (possibly not Northern Ireland at the moment of the whole Schengen zone. Transiting thru different Schengen countries is counted towards the 90 day limit.

 

[GMJ]

It's a rolling 180 day period so as days 'drop off' new days can be added.

It is manageable for us..just!! But we'll have to be careful as we normally like c.66 days in Jan-Mar and then 30-ish days in May. Now we'll have to slightly curtail one/both of the trips to ensure the whole doesn't go over the 90 days.

We also like to go away in Sept too but by then the Jan-Mar days will have 'dropped off'...but the we need to consider them for the following years Jan-Mar trip!!

The easiest solution is for us to only have 60 days in Jan-Mar so we can then enjoy 30 days in May and again in Sept!

Anyway I'm new/late to this thread so have just signed the petition and have also emailed it out to family members.

 

[REC]

I'm sorry but I don't see anything in there that makes a long stay visa easier. In fact, "tourism" is not given as a reason for granting a long stay visa at all. All EU states offer long stay visas but all are difficult to get, time consuming and expensive, with no guarantee of success. If any member state does attempt to make it easier (and I have seen no evidence that any are thinking of this) then Schengen may veto it as a way of getting round the 90 day rule. As far as I can see, the only way we will be able to spend extended winters around the Med in future is by throwing in a couple of months in Morocco, Tunisia or Egypt.

Portugal do not currently offer a long stay visa except for specific reasons like work.

 

[witzend]

I don’t understand how you would be able to. I think the proposed 180 day stays will be aimed at air travellers. The whole Schengen zone will need to changes their rules to allow you to travel through other countries in the zone to get to Portugal ( or Greece)

Thats the way I see it working as well these country's are after the majority that travel by air motorhomes aren't even considered. Portugal has made it obvious were not wanted by their new law banning off site parking