EU Pet Passports no longer valid for UK residents

[alcam]

See post #72?

Exactly. I thought we definitely need an AHC , then read that

 

[ArDachaidh]

It says you need an AHC.

 

[Jo001]

It says you need an AHC.

The part at the foot of the screenshot, underlined in red, says a passport is accepted.

 

[alcam]

It says you need an AHC.

It says you don't. See Jo's post . Hence , for me anyway , the confusion

 

[ArDachaidh]

It's not clear what date that information was printed. The most recent legislation which has only come into force a couple of days ago is quite clear. If you live in the UK you must use an AHC. There's lots of discussions on this, some of it quite misleading, but if you look at "Fun" where a contributor called Maz has been researching this for years, looking at the primary legislation etc, she is quite clear, as are many others, a PP issued to UK residents, even where they put a Spanish address on, such as Campsite, or holiday home, are no longer valid if you are not permanently resident in an EU country.

As I've said above Brittany Ferries is accepting them temporarily but suggests an AHC might be a wise back up. LeShuttle says it should be an AHC.

The point is this: for £100 does anyone want to risk being denied entry at the border, or, as has been reported, find that on return a vet refuses (incorrectly) to enter worming details into a PP?

We don't travel again until December but we've decided that unless something changes, we will get an AHC. Our trip of 90 days costs several thousand pounds, so £100 is not too much to pay for peace of mind.

 

[Jo001]

This is the link to the website. The bit about PPs is about halfway down.

Travel: coming to France with your pet

www.douane.gouv.fr

 

[ArDachaidh]

From BF Website

Further to the recent APHA update regarding changes to pet passports, for the time being, EU pet passports held by British residents will remain valid, therefore at check in we will not currently deny boarding to passengers who present an EU pet passport who is a UK resident. However, since the duration of this exemption is uncertain, should you remained concerned regarding future travel, consider obtaining an animal health certificate. Please note this is a APHA policy so we have no further information regarding a permanent implementation date and our contact centre staff are unable to provide any more detail at this time.

 

[ArDachaidh]

This is the link to the website. The bit about PPs is about halfway down.

Thanks. I think the legislation referred to in 2013 has been superseded by this latest.

Certainly there is uncertainty at the moment as to how Border Force in EU countries will interpret the legislation and whether they will ask for proof of residency. But also which Ferry companies will continue to accept Eu issued PP's. If they refuse you boarding because you have an Eu issued PP and live in the UK you will need to dash off and get an AHC.

Things will become clearer in the next few weeks, but if I was planning going in May or even June I would research where I can get a "click and collect" AHC for £100 max.

Here's what LeShuttle says this morning:

• EU pet passports are no longer valid for non-EU residents travelling from England, Scotland or Wales to the EU, even if they were originally issued in the EU
• For travel from Great Britain to the EU, you’ll need a new Animal Health Certificate (AHC) for each trip, issued by an official veterinarian within 10 days of travel
• GB residents can still use EU pet passports for their return journey to Great BritainPet travel requirements may vary depending on your destination country.
• To minimise the risk of disruption to your journey, we recommend checking the latest government guidance before travel and consider obtaining an Animal Health Certificate (AHC) if you are unsure. https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/carry/pets-and-other-animals/index_en.htm
  LeShuttle will continue to reflect official guidance as it is updated by the relevant authorities.

 

[Drover]

It says you need an AHC.

Read the last 3 lines...

 

[alcam]

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APHA tells me to contact country of destination . DFDS tells me to get an AHC .
Yet we have the above from EU ?

 

[Jo001]

@ArDachaidh is right in saying that page was written before 22nd April and hasn't been updated after the change - but maybe the fact they have left it unchanged is relevant, suggesting passports already issued can continue to be used?

 

[alcam]

@ArDachaidh is right in saying that page was written before 22nd April and hasn't been updated after the change - but maybe the fact they have left it unchanged is relevant, suggesting passports already issued can continue to be used?

Maybe

It's not clear what date that information was printed. The most recent legislation which has only come into force a couple of days ago is quite clear. If you live in the UK you must use an AHC. There's lots of discussions on this, some of it quite misleading, but if you look at "Fun" where a contributor called Maz has been researching this for years, looking at the primary legislation etc, she is quite clear, as are many others, a PP issued to UK residents, even where they put a Spanish address on, such as Campsite, or holiday home, are no longer valid if you are not permanently resident in an EU country.

As I've said above Brittany Ferries is accepting them temporarily but suggests an AHC might be a wise back up. LeShuttle says it should be an AHC.

The point is this: for £100 does anyone want to risk being denied entry at the border, or, as has been reported, find that on return a vet refuses (incorrectly) to enter worming details into a PP?

We don't travel again until December but we've decided that unless something changes, we will get an AHC. Our trip of 90 days costs several thousand pounds, so £100 is not too much to pay for peace of mind.

I assume we will all do the same (last paragraph) but it is frustrating that we can't get a definitive answer .

 

[alcam]

@ArDachaidh is right in saying that page was written before 22nd April and hasn't been updated after the change - but maybe the fact they have left it unchanged is relevant, suggesting passports already issued can continue to be used?

Maybe

It's not clear what date that information was printed. The most recent legislation which has only come into force a couple of days ago is quite clear. If you live in the UK you must use an AHC. There's lots of discussions on this, some of it quite misleading, but if you look at "Fun" where a contributor called Maz has been researching this for years, looking at the primary legislation etc, she is quite clear, as are many others, a PP issued to UK residents, even where they put a Spanish address on, such as Campsite, or holiday home, are no longer valid if you are not permanently resident in an EU country.

As I've said above Brittany Ferries is accepting them temporarily but suggests an AHC might be a wise back up. LeShuttle says it should be an AHC.

The point is this: for £100 does anyone want to risk being denied entry at the border, or, as has been reported, find that on return a vet refuses (incorrectly) to enter worming details into a PP?

We don't travel again until December but we've decided that unless something changes, we will get an AHC. Our trip of 90 days costs several thousand pounds, so £100 is not too much to pay for peace of mind.

I assume we will all do the same (last paragraph) but it is frustrating that we can't get a definitive answer .

 

[SimonM]

Who is going across first? My sister doesn’t travel until 18th May and will have 3 AHC in hand, but will offer the EUpp first of all.

 

[Jo001]

I don't think who's going across first will give us the answer, as some of the crossing companies are apparently giving a month's grace, or allowing passport holders to travel if they booked before 22nd April, or saying it isn't their responsibility to check that the passport holder meets the residency test, or just ignoring it altogether.

I've been following a few groups on FaceAche and haven't seen anything so far about people being challenged; and plenty of stories of people passing through with no problem.

 

[jeffmossy]

Came back on the shuttle today, Roxy has a Portuguese passport, I gave it to the girl on the desk, she gave me the microchip reader to scan the dog then said all is good and do I want to go on the earlier train, could be a different kettle of fish going the other direction though

 

[SimonM]

Coming back isn’t the issue, your EUpp is correct and valid for travel everywhere in Europe bar this godforsaken island.

 

[rugbyken]

specifies UK residents ? thought i may be OK with irish passport for me as dual citizen and portugese one for the dog ?????

 

[Jo001]

specifies UK residents ? thought i may be OK with irish passport for me as dual citizen and portugese one for the dog ?????

I *think* you are okay, but please double check.

 

[ArDachaidh]

It’s residency not nationality or your passport country that’s key. P&O Ferries say on their website they will refuse boarding if you don’t have an AHC and I’ve read of some being refused. LeShuttle advise an AHC but seem to be accepting PP’s. Likewise BF.