Emptying Black Water/Cassette - where?

[wildebus]

just be aware that human waste cant be used as compost where food is being grown . or where animals could be eating the grass etc
there are time limits .
Safe Sludge Matrix - The Safe Sludge Matrix
thats a sort of guide to be used.
but be veery careful where you get rid of composting toilets they arent safe really.

Hence #2) ... Dog poop disposal method ....

I don't think many people think of a compositing toilet as a way to produce fertilizer.

 

[DnK]

I'm a little surprised the composting toilet has not come into the European Motorhome scene much more as an alternative to a cassette toilet.
Apart from the significantly higher price as the downside, the disposal of the contents seem to be much easier than a cassette and needs #1) virtually any kind of soft ground and #2) bin bag in a rubbish bin, similar to dog loop bags.

I've looked into a composting toilet option to simplify waste disposal. The cheapest and I think the best looking one so far I found is this. http://www.simploo.co.uk/

Oh just noticed they do bio degradable bags too.

 

[alcam]

I've looked into a composting toilet option to simplify waste disposal. The cheapest and I think the best looking one so far I found is this. Shop - Simploo composting toilets

Oh just noticed they do bio degradable bags too.

Agree that disposal in GB can be a problem but , not knowing much about these machines , there still seems to be some disposal problems ?
7 litres of urine , big pile of sheite ?
Not clear how you shift the sheite into poo bags ?

 

[wildebus]

Agree that disposal in GB can be a problem but , not knowing much about these machines , there still seems to be some disposal problems ?
7 litres of urine , big pile of sheite ?
Not clear how you shift the sheite into poo bags ?

I would imagine the same way you empty a cats litter box - tip it into a bin bag and put it in the bin.

In fact, I understand that using Cat Litter is often used by US Vanners who use a bucket and bag method rather than a portapotti.

 

[witzend]

I had these recommended to me for emergency use BAGIT

 

[jammyvester]

I use no chemicals, and my RV has big tanks for grey and black waste that are connected by pipework and valves to a macerator pump. I can then pump out black waste, then wash through with grey waste, all through a small hose out into a manhole or into a toilet. With the macerator pump everything is reduced to liquid and then causes no blockage problems downstream. Grey waste cleans your hoses and the sewer good as new afterwards. I generally do this at quiet times, due to nimbies and people that have nothing better to occupy their time than make trouble. If I get those types in the vicinity I will wait until they are gone. I am all for an easy life, but at the same time I wont be paying a fortune to overnight at a CL, just to dump 200 ltr waste, or top up the 800 ltr water tank. Not when it is practical and possible with a little local knowledge, or just keeping your eyes open for the right type of manhole in a quiet spot.

 

[alcam]

I would imagine the same way you empty a cats litter box - tip it into a bin bag and put it in the bin.

In fact, I understand that using Cat Litter is often used by US Vanners who use a bucket and bag method rather than a portapotti.

Then you have to pour the pesh somewhere .
Not being obtuse , if I thought this system was a big improvement I would consider it .
At present when in GB I mostly pee in a water bottle and try and use toilets whenever possible for the serious business . Doing this cassette easily lasts 2 weeks

 

[wildebus]

Then you have to pour the pesh somewhere .
Not being obtuse , if I thought this system was a big improvement I would consider it .
At present when in GB I mostly pee in a water bottle and try and use toilets whenever possible for the serious business . Doing this cassette easily lasts 2 weeks

Where do you empty the water bottle? And why don't you think you can empty the urine bottle from a composting toilet in the same place?

 

[Dowel]

A couple of useful short notes from CAT about composting toilets and disposing of grey water in a domestic situation – If you have the space
How can a composting toilet be designed and managed? | CAT Information Service
What is a good way to dispose of grey water? | CAT Information Service

Dry aerobic composting without urine is acceptably odour free.

More at this Composting Toilet Wiki
Composting toilet - Wikipedia

Or search for human manure.

 

[Floridaphill]

I totally agree factor in a CL every 3/4 days gives no one the opportunity to get the wrong idea. Reality is not the issue but perception certainly is.

For those with no solar an opportunity to re charge batteries on ehu ,Dump grey and black take on water without robbing public toilets or graveyards.

If you so wish can have a drink etc and sleep without irritants of boy racers the doggers and refer trucks pulling up, subconsciously a Chillax

I cant understand the mentality of folk wandering about planning where to dump their shite that very behaviour in itself is an admittance that it can leave the wrong impression and be confrontational, It seems a strange use of ones time.

Channa

"take on water without robbing public toilets or graveyards", I found these water stops disrespectful like the one in Keswick which is a grave yard.

 

[jammyvester]

"take on water without robbing public toilets or graveyards", I found these water stops disrespectful like the one in Keswick which is a grave yard.

I have never filled from a graveyard yet, but I have filled after asking politely from fuel stations, Pubs, behind Industrial Buildings, parks and public gardens. Perhaps this is going a bit off topic, but at the end of the day we pay water rates at our domestic properties. This covers sewage treatment and the water distribution infrastructure, it seems to me, that as long as there is not a health and safety or environmental contamination issue, dumping waste into a public sewer should not be anyone's business but your own. The continuous introduction of water meters has made people more careful of wasting fresh water. My point is who's wasting it. Clean tap water costs very little. I my view, I would pay the normal metered price anywhere. I will not pay fees of over £100 at a campsite, for £1 worth of water. Going back to the graveyard topic, I suspect the church would be more than helpful if a donation to the "roof fund" was made in exchange for the water. Call me cynical...

 

[Byronic]

I haul up outside any house with a gravel drive, knock on the door
and ask if they'd like it tarmacked for free. Find it best not hang to
around for a rosie lee though !

 

[alcam]

Where do you empty the water bottle? And why don't you think you can empty the urine bottle from a composting toilet in the same place?

I just put full water bottle in a wheely bin .
May have got it wrong but it appears you have to decant the pee , bag up a big pile of keech and then dispose ?
Just not convinced it's any easier than , discreetly , emptying cassette

 

[DnK]

I just put full water bottle in a wheely bin .

I bet the councils love dealing with that!. Why not just pour it away in a hedgrow or verge. Once it filters through the ground it would be purified and is no harm to environment.

may have got it wrong but it appears you have to decant the pee

No there's a separator built into the wc so the urine can either go into a bottle or in the one I linked to theres an option where you can direct urine to another storage vessel.

, bag up a big pile of keech and then dispose ?

I think possible to put the bag in the "keech" container and then you don't have to empty from the container into a bag.

Just not convinced it's any easier than , discreetly , emptying cassette

Considering you could empty the urine and no 2's almost anywhere and that the no 2's storage is about a month between empties it could be simpler. However they are expensive initially

If I were doing a self build I think I would go the compost/separation route.

 

[alcam]

I bet the councils love dealing with that!. Why not just pour it away in a hedgrow or verge. Once it filters through the ground it would be purified and is no harm to environment.

No there's a separator built into the wc so the urine can either go into a bottle or in the one I linked to theres an option where you can direct urine to another storage vessel.

I think possible to put the bag in the "keech" container and then you don't have to empty from the container into a bag.

Considering you could empty the urine and no 2's almost anywhere and that the no 2's storage is about a month between empties it could be simpler. However they are expensive initially

If I were doing a self build I think I would go the compost/separation route.

Water bottle goes in wheely bin , wheely bin contents are uplifted into bin lorry ?
I think I'd need to physically see one of these machines before contemplating fitting .
If it is more user friendly it would only be really necessary in uk