Electric motorhome

[wildebus]

I don't know if it is still the case, but when Formula E first started, a BMW i3 was used as the Safety Car


For anyone not familiar, Formula E is an all-electric Single-Seater Racing series. This season just started is the first one where they have a battery bank with enough power to last the entire race (previously they swapped cars halfway through). The Top Speed now is around 175MPH (faster than Moto GP I believe?)

(It may not seem it, but I am a fan of electric vehicles. But I am not a fan of false promises and pie-in-the-sky targets from governments. If they made the 2040 target (or even a 2030 or 2025 target) Hybrids with a reasonable minimum range on electric of say 100 Miles, I could buy into that, but not all-electric)

 

[trevskoda]

Nothing lke true. LEDs are only marginally more efficient than high pressure sodium. The reasons for fitting them is to get better light pattern, better colour and longer service life, avoiding the cost of replacing bulbs.

There is no way you can save 75% of electricity by replacing sodium lamps using any technology we have today.

Some here were old tube lights,sodium is being replaced as they were crap lights.

 

[trevskoda]

Plugging into electric charging connections, with potential for a spark, in a petrol fuel station - who the feck thought up that idea?

There is no power transfer until you switch on with a phone apt.

 

[trevskoda]

It makes no sense to have charging points at petrol stations. More sensible to put them at coffee shops.

People go into stations to buy sweets fast food cigys and post here,most have a spar or other within,and thats where the money is made.

 

[trevskoda]

Just out of curiosity, how many commentators within this thread, only, have used an eCar or eVan?

I'll start. Peugeot 12 seater mini bus, small Nissan Van, Nissan Leaf, Mitsubishi i-MiEV, BMW i3.

Had a drive in mates vw golf,went like stink.:scared:

 

[trevskoda]

Not me (If I go somewhere I like to get back again )

But on a more serious note, there is such a big premium on them, it is just not practical for most on cost terms let along distance limitations.
Of 'your' list, how many have you used privately and without being given access to them as part of your job? And which one do you drive now?


Oh, and possibly I could nearly say yes as my Citroen DS5 was a "microHybrid" with regenerative electrical recharging of the battery, lowering alternator load.

Zero cost,new vw £25.000 cash say keep seven years,now same diesel or petrol using £70 a week on fuel,exact same amount of money plus price of car so double amount,so better by half to go lecy,please do the maths

 

[trevskoda]

I don't know if it is still the case, but when Formula E first started, a BMW i3 was used as the Safety Car


For anyone not familiar, Formula E is an all-electric Single-Seater Racing series. This season just started is the first one where they have a battery bank with enough power to last the entire race (previously they swapped cars halfway through). The Top Speed now is around 175MPH (faster than Moto GP I believe?)

(It may not seem it, but I am a fan of electric vehicles. But I am not a fan of false promises and pie-in-the-sky targets from governments. If they made the 2040 target (or even a 2030 or 2025 target) Hybrids with a reasonable minimum range on electric of say 100 Miles, I could buy into that, but not all-electric)

Prob with hybrid is you still have oil and filters plugs etc to service,no gain.

 

[trevskoda]

A swipe card is used, Trev.

Yes my mate has both.

 

[wildebus]

Zero cost,new vw £25.000 cash say keep seven years,now same diesel or petrol using £70 a week on fuel,exact same amount of money plus price of car so double amount,so better by half to go lecy,please do the maths

I don't understand.
#1) I wouldn't pay close to £25,000 for a small hatchback car. (and neither would you)
#2) I don't spend anywhere close to £70 a week on fuel.

Done the maths - not close to any kind of savings to go electric.

Prob with hybrid is you still have oil and filters plugs etc to service,no gain.

No gain? getting home in the same vehicle without having to hang around for ages for a recharge - how about that for a gain?
Last week drove to Glasgow and back - same day. Was parked in-between at a private house with no charging point (obviously) so couldn't recharge in between.
Was a cold miserable day weather wise so had heating on, electric seats, electric heated steering wheel, electric screen clearing, radio on, sat nav on, 2 phones on charge. Around 4.5 hours driving. Which electric car (that is affordable) would do this on a single charge?

Now service costs .... last service was around £110 - annual service. Have to have a hell of a lot of services to compensate for the massive uplift in cost for a Electric vehicle.

 

[trevskoda]

I don't understand.
#1) I wouldn't pay close to £25,000 for a small hatchback car. (and neither would you)
#2) I don't spend anywhere close to £70 a week on fuel.

Done the maths - not close to any kind of savings to go electric.



No gain? getting home in the same vehicle without having to hang around for ages for a recharge - how about that for a gain?
Last week drove to Glasgow and back - same day. Was parked in-between at a private house with no charging point (obviously) so couldn't recharge in between.
Was a cold miserable day weather wise so had heating on, electric seats, electric heated steering wheel, electric screen clearing, radio on, sat nav on, 2 phones on charge. Around 4.5 hours driving. Which electric car (that is affordable) would do this on a single charge?

Most here buy cars at around 40grand or the next doors would talk about you,some weeks i spend well over £100 on fuel,i do agree on long distance travel a problem as at present but most here only do local say seven miles to work and back,then out at night doing wheel spins and burnouts racing etc,and thats just the grannies :scared:.
On mainland folk do many miles,ie scotland from england ,but nowhere here to go,problem here is big hills and windy roads plus lots of start stop driving which eats fuel big time.

 

[wildebus]

Most here buy cars at around 40grand or the next doors would talk about you,some weeks i spend well over £100 on fuel,i do agree on long distance travel a problem as at present but most here only do local say seven miles to work and back,then out at night doing wheel spins and burnouts racing etc,and thats just the grannies :scared:.
On mainland folk do many miles,ie scotland from england ,but nowhere here to go,problem here is big hills and windy roads plus lots of start stop driving which eats fuel big time.

If most people in NI spend £40k on a new car and change every two years, they have more money then sense.

NI is very different to the rest of the UK and especially Scotland. I have to do a 7 mile round trip to go to the nearest shop to get a pint of Milk.
Where a good Hybrid works is dealing with both short and big journeys in the same vehicle. Take the Mitsubushi Outlander ... If I went to get that pint of milk I could do it in 100% all electric mode. If I wanted to go to Glasgow and back, I could do so in the same car no problem.

 

[Fazerloz]

I don't know if it is still the case, but when Formula E first started, a BMW i3 was used as the Safety Car


For anyone not familiar, Formula E is an all-electric Single-Seater Racing series. This season just started is the first one where they have a battery bank with enough power to last the entire race (previously they swapped cars halfway through). The Top Speed now is around 175MPH (faster than Moto GP I believe.)

Moto GP this last season were topping 220mph.

 

[Jeff G]

Wonder if we will see hydrogen cars given a go.Just been reading about the French built trains that are being rolled out in Germany and in several other countries,including the UK in the not too distant future.About 600 miles per fill

 

[trevskoda]

If most people in NI spend £40k on a new car and change every two years, they have more money then sense.

NI is very different to the rest of the UK and especially Scotland. I have to do a 7 mile round trip to go to the nearest shop to get a pint of Milk.
Where a good Hybrid works is dealing with both short and big journeys in the same vehicle. Take the Mitsubushi Outlander ... If I went to get that pint of milk I could do it in 100% all electric mode. If I wanted to go to Glasgow and back, I could do so in the same car no problem.

Get the bus or train,only two train tracks here so thats why folk use there cars,yes and moust up to there necks in hock over cars,me being tight have never bought new as so many one go for buttons here.:idea:my last car bought for £10 at seven years old and used for 15 then sold for £200,beat that.

 

[trevskoda]

Wonder if we will see hydrogen cars given a go.Just been reading about the French built trains that are being rolled out in Germany and in several other countries,including the UK in the not too distant future.About 600 miles per fill

Hydrogen is a fantastic fuel to use,problem is the cost of striping it out of atmosphere,more lecy used than would charge a car,these are the probs we are up against.

 

[wildebus]

Get the bus or train,only two train tracks here so thats why folk use there cars,yes and moust up to there necks in hock over cars,me being tight have never bought new as so many one go for buttons here.:idea:my last car bought for £10 at seven years old and used for 15 then sold for £200,beat that.

Get the Train? I'll need to get a car to go the 15 miles to the nearest Train Station. very handy.

Trev, you don't seem to get the fact that some places are not suitable for limited range electric cars or public transport.
Why are you not buying £40k cars? don't you like your neighbours?

sold for £190 profit 7 years later. how much in repairs in the meantime? buy electric and save more, no?

 

[martinmartin]

Hydrogen is a fantastic fuel to use,problem is the cost of striping it out of atmosphere,more lecy used than would charge a car,these are the probs we are up against.

Isn't hydrogen so difficult to keep contained that you could fill your tank on a Monday and if you didn't run the vehicle for a week or so it would be empty by Saturday, the particals ate so small nothing can contain it.
I m sure l read that in a Kevin Ash article in MCN.

 

[antiqueman]

Say they do get it right and the motorhomes start filtering through with a battery life that will do 300+ miles all of us on here that like to wild camp are goosed can’t see them putting charging points in the out of the way places that we bought our vans for visiting you’ll need too park up somewhere you can get a plug in. Things are moving quickly very now and there’s a lot of money at stake for the company who can come up with a solution think the ones too watch will be the vw group they got a real bad rap over the diesel emissions Fiddling thing 80% of there cars are diesel so think they need a good system and quick.

You dont have a petrol pump in a layby, they don't run out with the engine off.

 

[Derekoak]

Say they do get it right and the motorhomes start filtering through with a battery life that will do 300+ miles all of us on here that like to wild camp are goosed can’t see them putting charging points in the out of the way places that we bought our vans for visiting you’ll need too park up somewhere you can get a plug in. Things are moving quickly very now and there’s a lot of money at stake for the company who can come up with a solution think the ones too watch will be the vw group they got a real bad rap over the diesel emissions Fiddling thing 80% of there cars are diesel so think they need a good system and quick.

People like us will have to diy : roof absolutely full of solar panels (think the Martian), large lpg tank (for cooking:idea, lpg generator in a cupboard just in case

 

[trevskoda]

Get the Train? I'll need to get a car to go the 15 miles to the nearest Train Station. very handy.

Trev, you don't seem to get the fact that some places are not suitable for limited range electric cars or public transport.
Why are you not buying £40k cars? don't you like your neighbours?

sold for £190 profit 7 years later. how much in repairs in the meantime? buy electric and save more, no?

Di not cost a thing as i have a shed of parts,bits used in 15 years were 1 g/box clutch pads and silencer.
Yes some folk living in the sticks will have problems with charging for long distance runs ,but give it time and things must will get better.
No mission of me spending 40g on any car,my newish one cost £1900 and it took a crow bar to open wallet ,im still realing over spending so much on a tin box.
Move here as bus at end of street to belfast,shops across the road and houses half the price of mainland,makes sense in retirement and lots do it.