Electric motorhome

[trevskoda]

It's over 100 mile round trip to get to the closest decent sized town for me which would have future restrictions on diesel and petrol vehicles.
I'd have to tow it with my dirty van so I could use it in the 'clean' city :baby:

Tesla have already got cars with a 300/400 mile range,vans have more space but are heavy which will cut distance to about half.
But the is work on new salt based battery with 5 time the power and can be charged in 5 to 10 mins,we have 20 years to get sorted so just drive away for now and when most of us reach between 80/100 years of age we could buy a new lecy van to last another 20 years,i wish.:wacko:

 

[wildebus]

A Tesla 3 has a Battery Capacity of 80kWh.

What kind of infrastructure would you need to refill a 80kWh battery in 5-10 Minutes?
Taking the conservative 10 Minutes there, you would need to deliver 500kW on the connection - nah, I don't think so!

 

[martinmartin]

One thing about Kevin is he does keep his finger on the pulse.

He was dead right though in my opinion,all these years later its t he same problem about getting enough electric on board to travel long distances and replenish quickly.

 

[Fazerloz]

Interesting battle going on.

[video=youtube;Bt6r7of5qA0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt6r7of5qA0[/video]

 

[sparrks]

Home in the future will by law have to be built with solar panels to charge cars at home during daylight hrs before some smart a-se takes the pi-s out of this thread,secont they have worked a way of using water hydro power and w/mills which at the moment are mainly switched of but will come into play in future years,why do you think so many are springing up,the future is mapped out like it or lump it electric is here.

I like the idea of an electric future just that I don't believe half of what is written - a bit like on this forum there has been comments in the past that their method of charging their leisure batteries result in charging them fully in an hour or so. Yes, I know this is lead acid versus new tech but crap is crap.

 

[ricc]

if you google electric lorry you get reams of tesla announcing an electric truck with claims of 600 miles and 20 min recharge ... over a year ago and no updates. or bmw actually using a 40tonne truck 16 km a day with 5 hour recharge.
BMW'''s 40-tonne electric truck hits public roads | WIRED UK

anyone got any other links

 

[Fazerloz]

Budweiser brewer Anheuser-Busch has ordered 40 of the Tesla trucks and up to 800 of the Nikola trucks.

 

[colinm]

Tesla have already got cars with a 300/400 mile range,vans have more space but are heavy which will cut distance to about half.
But the is work on new salt based battery with 5 time the power and can be charged in 5 to 10 mins,we have 20 years to get sorted so just drive away for now and when most of us reach between 80/100 years of age we could buy a new lecy van to last another 20 years,i wish.:wacko:

I know several Tesla owners, none get 300/400 miles from a charge, the best they get is 280miles, perfectly fine for a car, but it still doesn't work as yet for a motorhome, in the future maybe.

 

[martinmartin]

I know several Tesla owners, none get 300/400 miles from a charge, the best they get is 280miles, perfectly fine for a car, but it still doesn't work as yet for a motorhome, in the future maybe.

280 miles,l bet that isn't at motorway speed or much above 30 MPH in reality.

 

[martinmartin]

Budweiser brewer Anheuser-Busch has ordered 40 of the Tesla trucks and up to 800 of the Nikola trucks.

The cinic in me says there be more to that order than meets the eye,tax breaks and connected company directors spring to mind.

 

[wildebus]

Budweiser brewer Anheuser-Busch has ordered 40 of the Tesla trucks and up to 800 of the Nikola trucks.

sounds Impressive?


Nah.

Amazon have ordered 20,000 Fossil Fuel Sprinters
Amazon Thumbs Its Nose At Sustainability, Orders 20,000 Conventional Mercedes Sprinter Vans | CleanTechnica
Clearly they have decided smokey pipes over pipe-dreams.

 

[trevskoda]

A Tesla 3 has a Battery Capacity of 80kWh.

What kind of infrastructure would you need to refill a 80kWh battery in 5-10 Minutes?
Taking the conservative 10 Minutes there, you would need to deliver 500kW on the connection - nah, I don't think so!

When the new carbon or salt silacate battery reach us after a few years development the charge time will be fast,but that is years away so dont panic and run your diesel untill the gov forces you of the rd and into a old folks home,then we can site and talk drival over a cup of tea

 

[sparrks]

When the new carbon or salt silacate battery reach us after a few years development the charge time will be fast,but that is years away so dont panic and run your diesel untill the gov forces you of the rd and into a old folks home,then we can site and talk drival over a cup of tea

The charge time will only be fast if you have the infrastructure capacity to charge it a high rate.

 

[wildebus]

I am sure faster and faster recharges will happen, but there is a limit to what is feasible. and 500kW is not.
even if a recharge unit could supply slightly close to that, imagine how heavy the recharge cable will be! More than the carbon fibre van it is connecting to.

The real advancement for reducing road pollution is to transfer long-distance freight to Rail, and have smaller Electric-powered distribution trucks and vans covering a suitable operational radius.
Long Distance Electric will not happen in this century.


(and I see the question about where all this pollution-free electricity comes from has never been answered by these governments with their fine and dandy deadlines)

 

[martinmartin]

When the new carbon or salt silacate battery reach us after a few years development the charge time will be fast,but that is years away so dont panic and run your diesel untill the gov forces you of the rd and into a old folks home,then we can site and talk drival over a cup of tea

That's the nail on the head Trev"a few years away"carrot and donkey spring to mind, theirs more to this electric nonsense than meets the eye.
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[trevskoda]

I am sure faster and faster recharges will happen, but there is a limit to what is feasible. and 500kW is not.
even if a recharge unit could supply slightly close to that, imagine how heavy the recharge cable will be! More than the carbon fibre van it is connecting to.

The real advancement for reducing road pollution is to transfer long-distance freight to Rail, and have smaller Electric-powered distribution trucks and vans covering a suitable operational radius.
Long Distance Electric will not happen in this century.

No long distance,well if no piston engines in 20 years then we will be stuffed and i cannot see a railroad running into tescos.:wacko:

 

[wildebus]

No long distance,well if no piston engines in 20 years then we will be stuffed and i cannot see a railroad running into tescos.:wacko:

trev,
I am sure this Electric only deadline has clearly been stated as applying to private cars, not commercials?

 

[trevskoda]

That's the nail on the head Trev"a few years away"carrot and donkey spring to mind, theirs more to this electric nonsense than meets the eye.
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Correct and if im right then when piston engines stop being sold then i recon we will stretch a ten years or more stop gap,by that time it will be electric only for sure.
One thing is we will not be told every thing by the gov as folk would panic and sales may slump to fast so stretching it out will avoid money problems.
Now im of to bed to recharge my batterys,night all sleep tight.:sleep-027:

 

[mark61]

When Bertha Benz apparently did the first cross country automoblie journey, she had to go to a pharmacy to get fuel. It wasn't inevitable back then that we would need petrol stations at all. There were electric cars back early on too. There was a fleet of London Taxi's all electric way back in 1900. Alcohol looked like a good fuel too, but appears prohibition put a stop to that.

 

[wildebus]

How will the petrol and diesel ban work? - BBC News

The government's 2040 target only applies to cars and vans.

However in its Road to Zero Strategy published earlier this year it said ultimately it wants a transition to zero emissions across all vehicle types.

The government said it was working with industry to develop an ultra low emission standard for trucks and is introducing a voluntary industry-supported commitment to reduce heavy goods vehicle greenhouse gases by 15% by 2025, from 2015 levels.

It is also working to clean up its bus fleet by investing in new low emission buses and retrofitting emission-reduction technology to existing vehicles.
HGV Greenhouse gases reduce by 15% - woo hoo!


and on the car front ..... "Hybrid vehicles, which combine petrol and electric motors, will not be included in the sales ban."
So there will be a load of Petrol-Electric Hybrids which can go 10 miles on electric just to tick the box.


It's all a pipedream and not achievable, just politicians rubbish.