Easy loading scooter ramp for motorhome garage

Talbot

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Can anyone recommend a lightweight solution to load a scooter in a garage. I know Fiamma do one but I'd prefer recommendations from satisfied users including tie down securing equipment. Any pointers please?
 
I just use one of these cheap ebay ones and some come in a nice bag

www.ebay.co.uk

Bike Loading RAMP Folding Motorcycle Motorbike ATV Steel Motocross Folding | eBay

Terrific, simple and strong Bi-FOLD loading ramp by Qtech. It has a non-slip serrated grip designed and fashioned into the steel allowing use in wet weather. Substantial steel lip for added stability when loading or unloading.
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Works fine and have pop riveted a hook on system to garage end so secure whilst loading/unloading.

LT Man
 
Talbot said:
Can anyone recommend a lightweight solution to load a scooter in a garage. I know Fiamma do one but I'd prefer recommendations from satisfied users including tie down securing equipment. Any pointers please?
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You know its not allowed inside by law unless electric trike or 4 wheel for invalidity use.
you can have it at rear outside.
 
trevskoda said:
You know its not allowed inside by law unless electric trike or 4 wheel for invalidity use.
you can have it at rear outside.
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Do we have a link to the law about this or has it been to court and a judgement passed . I don't see what changes between inside and outside as far as carrying is concerned. Same item same weight.
 
Fazerloz said:
Do we have a link to the law about this or has it been to court and a judgement passed . I don't see what changes between inside and outside as far as carrying is concerned. Same item same weight.
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I seem to think classed as a living van and not a motorhome heard what trev says mentioned with race vans
 
channa said:
I seem to think classed as a living van and not a motorhome heard what trev says mentioned with race vans
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Race Van's and such I can understand to a certain degree as there can be payments involved. Such as prize money, etc This has been doing the rounds for at least 40years when we were using converted coaches to transport F1 stockcars to meetings up and down the country.
 
Fazerloz said:
Do we have a link to the law about this or has it been to court and a judgement passed . I don't see what changes between inside and outside as far as carrying is concerned. Same item same weight.
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Yes it has been to court and a secure conviction,the new forces which do rd side vh checks along with police will ask to open garage,remember you will invaladate your insurance also,and will either have to ditch the bike at the road side as cannot drive on with it in there,this was well aired many mths back and all should be aware of this by now.
 
Trev, I think any decent lawyer would keep this out of court. Just start reading the government documents relating to this and the overlaps. Taken to the letter if you have a PHGV (plus 3.5 tonne) you can't have a sandwich box it the cab. Yet others will tell you as long as the goods are yours and not for sale it's ok.
The body type eg. Motorhome does not define what it is used for. I think if a vehicle was converted for the sole purpose of carrying bikes or a car for competition it would be another story if you claimed it was a motorhome.
When your allowed out and about again go to a goods vehicle testing station and ask the to test a Motorhome as a Goods Vehicle. If you can get it, it's an easier test.
So lets say your solicitor can't show the rules to be a mess and contradicting each other, maybe facing a manslaughter charge would be next ;)

As our motoring laws should be harmonised with the EU the vehicles class should be M1 or M2 specialist vehicle (motorhome) (they are not goods vehicles)
 
SquirrellCook said:
Trev, I think any decent lawyer would keep this out of court. Just start reading the government documents relating to this and the overlaps. Taken to the letter if you have a PHGV (plus 3.5 tonne) you can't have a sandwich box it the cab. Yet others will tell you as long as the goods are yours and not for sale it's ok.
The body type eg. Motorhome does not define what it is used for. I think if a vehicle was converted for the sole purpose of carrying bikes or a car for competition it would be another story if you claimed it was a motorhome.
When your allowed out and about again go to a goods vehicle testing station and ask the to test a Motorhome as a Goods Vehicle. If you can get it, it's an easier test.
So lets say your solicitor can't show the rules to be a mess and contradicting each other, maybe facing a manslaughter charge would be next ;)

As our motoring laws should be harmonised with the EU the vehicles class should be M1 or M2 specialist vehicle (motorhome) (they are not goods vehicles)
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Im going on fact and english law,mine is camper/bus in log book and i only gave whats been done and dusted in england.
 
trevskoda said:
Yes it has been to court and a secure conviction,the new forces which do rd side vh checks along with police will ask to open garage,remember you will invaladate your insurance also,and will either have to ditch the bike at the road side as cannot drive on with it in there,this was well aired many mths back and all should be aware of this by now.
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I dont remember it been well aired on this forum. Maybe on others. Do you have any links to the case please.
 
It was on motorhomebuilder IIRC, it depends on if the vehicle can be classed as a 'living van', the definition of which is:-
A2.4 Living Vans A `living van' is "a vehicle, whether mechanically propelled or not, which is used for living accommodation by one or more persons and which is also used for the carriage of goods or burden which are not needed by such one or more persons for the purpose of their residence in the vehicle". Living vans are classed as goods vehicles and, depending on their weight, are therefore in either class 4 or 7 within the MOT Service or are subject to HGV plating and testing.
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I found this link when googling it.

p.s. as Trev posted on it, I guess this is where he read it.

Do you carry a scooter or motorbike in your garage?

I have just seen this new thread over on the sister site Motorhomer posted by someone called @Activecamper. I believe quite a few of us on here carry either a motorbike or motor-scooter in a garage at the back of your van, if you do and if this can be believed, this could well affect you: -...
motorhomebuilder.com motorhomebuilder.com
 
Fazerloz said:
I was more interested in a link to the court case Trev mentioned.
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Jes man im not a walking inc/p,it was fact as many were worried about it,but only ever heard of the one case made by the body which took over from vosa,maybe worth trying to trace up again. (y)
 
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from memory of what the DVLA told me when I was changing my truck body type to motor caravan what you carry has nothing to do with it really, it's the fact that there is a designated space / area that COULD be used for carrying goods that are not deemed necessary for your use of the vehicle as a motor caravan or words to that effect, if there is then depending on the vehicle weight you cannot use the class 4 MOT and again depending on weight either a class 7 or HGV plate etc , I can't remember all that I was told as it didn't apply to me as I have no garage area. I do remember someone on one of the forums did get stopped in a larger vehicle with a motorbike in the rear garage luckily for him and much to the surprise of VOSA he did have the correct MOT / Plate in place.
 
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