Diesel Motor, depreciating asset or not

Whether to upgrade or Not

Given the current uncertainty re diesel (even for euro 6 engines)

It seems to me to be rather foolish to spend x * £10,000 on upgrading to a nice newer diesel based vehicle.

on our 12 year old vehicle we have German Green sticker and a French Level 3 so no panic as yet.

I will bide my time

As yet there seems no viable alternative to diesel for say a 3500kg MoHo (or heavier)

I am sure this will change and I am happy to embrace either Leccy or Hybrid Leccy and ? ( petrol / LPG/ ??? )

Watch and wait and see 4 now !
 
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jagmanx said:
Given the current uncertainty re diesel (even for euro 6 engines)

It seems to me to be rather foolish to spend x * £10,000 on upgrading to a nice newer diesel based vehicle.

on our 12 year old vehicle we have German Green sticker and a French Level 3 so no panic as yet.

I will bide my time

As yet there seems no viable alternative to diesel for say a 3500kg MoHo (or heavier)

I am sure this will change and I am happy to embrace either Leccy or Hybrid Leccy and ? ( petrol / LPG/ ??? )

Watch and wait and see 4 now !
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You’re probably right on the money but you’re looking maybe 5 to 10 years before first electric mh and will be priced so high over 100 k for somthing that’s 50 60 k now then that would probably be the time to look for second hand diesels they’ll defanetly take a pounding but not worth worrying just yet say you bought a 2 3 year old van with use and depreciation overt 8 years it’s probably going to be worth as much second hand as there won’t be enough second hand electric vans and the ones that are available will fetch a premium
 
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Nabsim said:
I have suspected for a long time that hydrogen has been suppressed by the petrol industry as it would take them out almost overnight. I did see some comment a couple of years ago where it wasn't wanted on safety grounds as in a crash there is a potential hydrogen bomb but the tanks are quite strong and I think its just trying to sweep it under the carpet.

Not normally a conspiracy sort but this technology has been here for years, we have even had some guy on the news recently where he has converted his land rover to be steam powered but when did you see someone putting a hydrogen unit on the road?

Top gear did a bit a few years ago where they went to a Vauxhall place in Germany, they had a 'chassis' that was powered by a hydrogen cell and you could 'unclip' the body so the vehicle type was interchangeable. They were allowed to drive it round but was in company grounds and may have been prototype at that point. How come we dont see/hear more of this.
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hi
honda has got a car currently available here to run on hydrogen. so there must be
garages selling hydrogen. i dont think you can buy the car though you just lease it.
 
There are a couple of hydrogen cars around, but fuel stations are still a problem, only a few weeks back Riversimple started beta testing of the Rasa, IIRC some 10's of cars are being leased to people in areas which have hydrogen stations.
 
I think there is one hyd staion at calor gas down docks in belfast,not much use if you live in londonderry.
 
hairydog said:
An alternative view is that if they stop making diesel motorhome due to some government edict, the secondhand value may soar. Look at Land Rover Defender secondhand prices!
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I think you may be onto something on price going up,hybred engine for short term,but as my mate said he bought a vw and would not buy petrol lecy as you still have all the nonsence with exhaust pipes oil filters oil and all other consumables,any way most of the latest cars have between 130/200 plus range which is ok fo 95 % of folk as cars travel no more at best 10 mls in a day,vans differant matter .
 
Diesels are far from Dead! Euro 5 and Euro 6 engines are so clean that you have to connect the smoke meter RPM connectors to the engine when carrying out either Mot or diagnostic tests. The reason for this is that the probe cannot detect any emissions given due to new technolog keeping them within strict regulations.
The use of a good quality fuel also helps and deffinatly not Supermarket fuels that dont have the additives that reputable fuel manufacturers do.
Its another case of the media blowing things totally out of proportion scare mongering as per!
This is a thread iv just added to another discussion....totally agree commmercial diesels are at present here to stay, as for Bio fuel...that is yet to be proven, it might be cheap and clean to run but as for maintance costs more and more manufacturers saying do not use in there engines.
 
If you do not buy diesel what is the choice! You may wait years before alternatives arrive.
 
Noeldoes said:
If you do not buy diesel what is the choice! You may wait years before alternatives arrive.
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Didn't I see an electric motorhome being advertised in a newsletter for one of the shows recently? Can't remember the maker and I may be wrong, brain not kicked in properly yet this morning, may have been in a C&CC mag and not a newsletter and was something about electricity :)
 
Recently read a review of the new Ford Focus soon to be released - with diesel engines.
 
Yes, same refinery, same tanks, can even be same tankers. The various additives are added when the tankers fill up, according to the specs of whose buying.
 
It's interesting that there hasn't been any concerns voiced, about the hazards faced by MOT testers who are breathing the fumes from cars left ticking over, while their engines reach the required temperature for the diesel emissions test!

If diesel is so toxic, then why are thousands of mechanics allowed to work in a poisonous atmosphere?

Phill
 
Diesel motor dep
I am contemplating a new Iveco daily possibly my last self build upon talking to sales rep the new Iveco daily euro 6 blue will be future proofed for emissions beyond 2020.
 
skippy said:
Diesel motor dep
I am contemplating a new Iveco daily possibly my last self build upon talking to sales rep the new Iveco daily euro 6 blue will be future proofed for emissions beyond 2020.
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If the talking to sales rep will put that in writing and have that signed and witnessed, then I think you will be safe.

:idea:
 
I'm fairly sure all Euro6 are ok till 2020, perhaps 2026. No idea beyond that though.
I'd be wanting to see the detail of "future proofing" in some official brochure or similar, as minimum.
 
time4t said:
It's interesting that there hasn't been any concerns voiced, about the hazards faced by MOT testers who are breathing the fumes from cars left ticking over, while their engines reach the required temperature for the diesel emissions test!

If diesel is so toxic, then why are thousands of mechanics allowed to work in a poisonous atmosphere?

Phill
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A bit like years back when we used air lines to blow out asbestos brake dust,did not do me any harm wheeze wheeze splutter.
 
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