Delica - the next challenge - help please me re weight issues

listerdiesel said:
Going back a few pages, the Japanese plate that was found with 2.4 and 3.5 on it suggests rather strongly to me that those are the GVW for the solo vehicle and the GTW when towing a trailer, very similar to our Bedford Midi that we had some years back. More than 3.5 tonnes would have required a tachograph for commercial use, so many makers kept it below the limit.

Given the engine size and rating, I wouldn't have thought much more was feasible.

Just a thought.

Peter
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Hi Peter - i also wondered about that ...... i have visited a engineer neighbour tonight (who has been away for a few days) and who has been a van owner for decades. He know about all the trials and tribulations of my wee japanese conundrum - so i outlined this story so far for him and his immediate response was that my van was a 3.5 ton van - and so i have nearly 1000 lbs of user payload .....
 
listerdiesel said:
Going back a few pages, the Japanese plate that was found with 2.4 and 3.5 on it suggests rather strongly to me that those are the GVW for the solo vehicle and the GTW when towing a trailer, very similar to our Bedford Midi that we had some years back. More than 3.5 tonnes would have required a tachograph for commercial use, so many makers kept it below the limit.

Given the engine size and rating, I wouldn't have thought much more was feasible.

Just a thought.

Peter
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I thought the same, but 900Kg for towing doesn't seem very much, but of all the info we have so far, it seems likely.
 
hairydog said:
That seems extremely unlikely to be the case. I am pretty sure that the 3.5 tonnes is the train weight, not the GVW. Almost all 3.5 ton vans have twin back wheels for a start.

If the GVW was 3500, why was it running on tyres that were so grossly inadequate for its weight? I think it is a 2.5 tonne van at most.

I repeat my advice: get the weight down as far as you possibly can, then get it weighed. Only then can you actually assess the situation.
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When i had it weighed at the beginning of this thread the van was fairly empty - it contained no water, no clothes, no food, no books, and less than a half tank of fuel - so it was pretty empty when compared with its usual payload - i guess the bits no bobs remaining in the lockers - hookup cable, hosepipe, spare - engine belts and oil - a bit of crockery, some torches and 2 saucepans would not weigh a significant amount - but to set our minds at rest i will do what everyone suggested earlier on and empty it, weigh it and take it to a commercial tyre place and chase up Mitsubishi.....
 
re the weights on the jap plate these could also be 2.4 as the kerb weight and 3.5 as max gross weight, going back some in one of the links it was suggested that these vehicles were available with kerb weights ranging from around 1700 kg - around 2600kg,
 
delicagirl said:
Hi factorydave thanks for the gumtree link - the van at £7995 appears to be an identical van to mine, (which i paid £10k for 2 years ago) , and it is being sold by the same shyster dealer. This one is priced at almost half the price of the last one he had for sale... so there is summat not right !!!!! He lists the dimensions and says the gross weight is 2520 KG(KILOGRAM).
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I hadn't realised that your 'van is as small as it is ... just 4.9m long.

I had a similarly aged 6m 'van with a maximum laden weight of 3,200Kg, and if you take a very crude pro-rata measure that would indicate a MLW of say 2,600Kg.

The MLW is likely to be higher than that, but it certainly won't be 3,500Kg.

I wonder where the 2,520Kg figure comes from?
 
hairydog said:
When I try to look at that Gumtree ad, it says it's no longer available. Is there a way to look at old Gumtree ads?
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Just scroll down, there is a picture of the van. Incidentally just a thought the jb500 could have nothing to do with it no more than a model number assigned by whoever built the body. I have a CI euro 100 which really means very little in terms of the base vehicle

Channa
 
channa said:
Just scroll down, there is a picture of the van. Incidentally just a thought the jb500 could have nothing to do with it no more than a model number assigned by whoever built the body. I have a CI euro 100 which really means very little in terms of the base vehicle

Channa
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Yes, the JB500 is the model of Motorhome. Nothing to do with the Mitsubishi part, which is an L300.
 
FULL TIMER said:
re the weights on the jap plate these could also be 2.4 as the kerb weight and 3.5 as max gross weight, going back some in one of the links it was suggested that these vehicles were available with kerb weights ranging from around 1700 kg - around 2600kg,
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That would be the perfect answer to this quest Alan !!!!
 
Have come across these vehicles on Mobile.de, which I think so far give the most accurate info as far as GVW goes, especially the commercials, but I also see it being very feasible the MH's being uprated the extra 100KG

The L300 was/is been around for a long time, at least 3 or 4 completely different models, over the years (although they may not look that different) later models have a slightly higher GVW than the earliest, also finding stats gets more difficult as the vehicle has been given different names. The Delica name as far as I can see, is given the people carrier/station wagon version of the panel van. The commercials have been marketed as L300's, Express, and a few other names.



Mitsubishi Frankia als Alkoven in Niederneisen bei Limburg/Lahn

Mitsubishi L 300 2,5D Pritsche als Pritsche in Berlin Niederschöneweide
 
hairydog said:
That seems extremely unlikely to be the case. I am pretty sure that the 3.5 tonnes is the train weight, not the GVW. Almost all 3.5 ton vans have twin back wheels for a start.

If the GVW was 3500, why was it running on tyres that were so grossly inadequate for its weight? I think it is a 2.5 tonne van at most.

I repeat my advice: get the weight down as far as you possibly can, then get it weighed. Only then can you actually assess the situation.
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Increasingly looking like 2.5tonne GVW/MAM.

Yes much as I've posted earlier. Unless the weighing was grossly incorrect then someone has put a too heavy a body on an inadequate chassis, they haven't allowed for payload. Could have been purposeful could have been ignorance. The tyres already on it may well be adequate @ 2.5Ttonnes, they may at least have got that part correct!
 
POI Admin said:
I hadn't realised that your 'van is as small as it is ... just 4.9m long.

I had a similarly aged 6m 'van with a maximum laden weight of 3,200Kg, and if you take a very crude pro-rata measure that would indicate a MLW of say 2,600Kg.

The MLW is likely to be higher than that, but it certainly won't be 3,500Kg.

I wonder where the 2,520Kg figure comes from?
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That is what i have always thought it was (2meters wide and 2.7 meters high)- and its why i want to keep it - its small and cute and fits into one parking bay and is just the right size for me - and it lets me go down the TINIEST of lanes !!
 
channa said:
I note the ad 521 days old , so possibly imported in the same batch as yours ? Also if you look at the rear tyre it seems underinflated or under significant load !

Channa
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it could well be - this is being sold by the same dealer that i bought from - that is how he makes his living - from grey imports - and changing his business name every couple of years !!

- and this one you have found has an awning, but mine doesn't.
 
delicagirl said:
it could well be - this is being sold by the same dealer that i bought from - that is how he makes his living - from grey imports - and changing his business name every couple of years !!

- and this one you have found has an awning, but mine doesn't.
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Stock turn on caravans and motorhomes can be extremely slow, One of my ex sales managers had a Ford Escort in a garish colour we had over a year, It became a standing joke. It was so funny one of our traders sent it a birthday card. Suffice to say the mentioned Sales Manager far from amused!!.

Motor caravans and caravans are far more seasonal than passenger cars, Very few dealers seem to understand the importance of stock turn to be honest but perhaps I shall save that for another thread.

Channa
 
channa said:
Stock turn on caravans and motorhomes can be extremely slow, One of my ex sales managers had a Ford Escort in a garish colour we had over a year, It became a standing joke. It was so funny one of our traders sent it a birthday card. Suffice to say the mentioned Sales Manager far from amused!!.

Motor caravans and caravans are far more seasonal than passenger cars, Very few dealers seem to understand the importance of stock turn to be honest but perhaps I shall save that for another thread.

Channa
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:dance: lol


the way we're going here this thread may need a birthday card also !!!!
 
delicagirl said:
:dance: lol


the way we're going here this thread may need a birthday card also !!!!
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Who gives a flying ? at least we are droning on about a camper !!!....Not getting very far tbh , but all a good collective bonding excercise

Channa
 
channa said:
Who gives a flying ? at least we are droning on about a camper !!!....Not getting very far tbh , but all a good collective bonding excercise

Channa
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Maybe when its all sorted i should arrange a Delica Thank You Meet and get a barrel of beer in for the collective bonders - call it the Bonders Bash !!!!!
 
That rare occasion, when it would be a blessing in disguise to discover that a m/home had a waterlogged body.

And after a drying out finding that it actually weighs in at 1.5 tonnes.
 
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