Delica - the next challenge - help please me re weight issues

[delicagirl]

One step at a time is the way, lets see what the axle weights are and what info (if any) the dealer is able to get from VIN.

Looking on Mobile.de, there are a fair few coachbuilt MH's on the same or similar model, Hymer, Dethleff, plus other well known makes.

I wouldn't be thinking of trading it in yet.

I'm not !!!!

I'm on a mission with this weight investigation now lol

 

[delicagirl]

Surly your insurance company would know what type of vehicle it is & there for the weight capacity !, As let's be honest 'They would have to know what they are infact insuring !'
Try seeing if the Engine number throws up any leads !.

I am in stitches of laughter here....... as one lead is suggested - this sweet wee van of mine knobbles it - there is no engine number on the V5 log book - but i think i can find it under the front seats.... here is a second reason for me to get all the seats lifted .....

but - i am off clothes shopping for girlie stuff this afternoon ... so am gonna put my other hat on for a while and stop trying to understand "man stuff" at least for a few hours !!!!

 

[delicagirl]

you can only ask . but i think it only works in a sequance . plus no weight slips .
but almost every town as weigh bridges . many hgv yards have them . they usually will do it as a favour . builders yards you name it they are all over the places , sand pits . steel yards .

There is often a list of weigh bridges on your local council website

 

[delicagirl]

Surly your insurance company would know what type of vehicle it is & there for the weight capacity !, As let's be honest 'They would have to know what they are infact insuring !'
Try seeing if the Engine number throws up any leads !.

If i/we and the might of WCers investigative powers cannot find out - how would my insurers find out ?

 

[Nesting Zombie]

They might have access to a different database than we have, & if they haven't, then don't ever worry about being over weight, as apparently it couldn't be proven if you was lol lol

 

[delicagirl]

They might have access to a different database than we have, & if they haven't, then don't ever worry about being over weight, as apparently it couldn't be proven if you was lol lol

Zombie - this is not about my fooling an insurance company or government official this is about my safety. If i am significantly overweight for my axles and suspension and tyres and one of these collapses in the back of beyond (and insurers will only recover a vehicle from a tarmac road) - then i could lose my van - or be injured. I'm sure you would not want either of those things to happen to me.

 

[colinm]

Surly your insurance company would know what type of vehicle it is & there for the weight capacity !, As let's be honest 'They would have to know what they are infact insuring !'
Try seeing if the Engine number throws up any leads !.

They might have access to a different database than we have, & if they haven't, then don't ever worry about being over weight, as apparently it couldn't be proven if you was lol lol

Some one I know had an accident with his car and trailer, to cut a very long story short, when the investigator came to see a demo of turning of car and trailer he just happened to notice it was a streched limo not a 4 door saloon.

 

[trevskoda]

Zombie - this is not about my fooling an insurance company or government official this is about my safety. If i am significantly overweight for my axles and suspension and tyres and one of these collapses in the back of beyond (and insurers will only recover a vehicle from a tarmac road) - then i could lose my van - or be injured. I'm sure you would not want either of those things to happen to me.

Im sure there would be a Q of lads here willing to give kiss of life.

 

[delicagirl]

Im sure there would be a Q of lads here willing to give kiss of life.

Now Trev - dont you start fisticuffs with Izzy as to who will be first in the queue :lol-053:

 

[pughed2]

weight issues

hello delica........I just saw your reply to my posting on here, so decided briefly to try to put your mind at rest over all this. There is no reason I can think of why (apart from fuel saving) you should be concerned about the weight of your vehicle. If you are concerned about tyre pressures, please go to the website tribby.co.uk, section mechanical and technical, article tyre pressures, and scroll down to my post pughed2 which tells you exactly how to work out your tyre pressures with no base references. Secondly to address your issues of security, as I am in exactly the same position, consider........1)obviously the physical security of the van, prefer to leave it outside houses or in busy places 2) arrange when overnighting to have the van locked obviously, and ready to roll asap if a gang of thugs arrive, 3)at every wildcamping stop check your mobile phone signal, and if abroad the number you would need to call police, keep in mind if in france possible slow or no response, elsewhere the police can be invaluable depending on event, and in cases of dispute between vanner and residents, usually will support the vanner so stay legal and 4) always park near to habitation of some sort, obviously to get help if needed, 5) check your location, street name on google maps or mapfactor downloaded sat nav, so if you do need to call police, you can tell them exactly where you are..............all this takes just 5 or 10 minutes when parking up.............currently wilding torbay area........steve bristol

 

[delicagirl]

hello delica........I just saw your reply to my posting on here, so decided briefly to try to put your mind at rest over all this. There is no reason I can think of why (apart from fuel saving) you should be concerned about the weight of your vehicle. If you are concerned about tyre pressures, please go to the website tribby.co.uk, section mechanical and technical, article tyre pressures, and scroll down to my post pughed2 which tells you exactly how to work out your tyre pressures with no base references. Secondly to address your issues of security, as I am in exactly the same position, consider........1)obviously the physical security of the van, prefer to leave it outside houses or in busy places 2) arrange when overnighting to have the van locked obviously, and ready to roll asap if a gang of thugs arrive, 3)at every wildcamping stop check your mobile phone signal, and if abroad the number you would need to call police, keep in mind if in france possible slow or no response, elsewhere the police can be invaluable depending on event, and in cases of dispute between vanner and residents, usually will support the vanner so stay legal and 4) always park near to habitation of some sort, obviously to get help if needed, 5) check your location, street name on google maps or mapfactor downloaded sat nav, so if you do need to call police, you can tell them exactly where you are..............all this takes just 5 or 10 minutes when parking up.............currently wilding torbay area........steve bristol

Thanks steve - i will check it out on my return from a girlie afternoon in Bath bw

 

[Channa]

If i/we and the might of WCers investigative powers cannot find out - how would my insurers find out ?

That is an easy question to answer the onus would be on you to prove what it is is. A lot of insurance contracts are done via telephone and internet and cover offered using "limited information" As you are already finding no one really knows what it is ! This of course in a total loss claim could prejudice you, it is hard to prove what you have got. The idea of insurance really is to indemnify third parties, Full Comp is really a bit of a upsell. God forbid you wrote your van off but I think you would have a real challenge establish its fair market value with an insurer. I don't wish to sound negative but is well meant advise as someone who has Insurance experience.

Until such time as you can establish axle weights , tyres and pressures are secondary. As Alan says tyres can blow, over a period of time they can delaminate all sorts of things. If the rear tyres have been on a while a good tyre fitter by looking should be able to tell if they are ran under or over inflated tread wear tells you this.

A right puzzle this one isn't it ?
Channa

 

[flyinghigh]

Thank you - i will get it sorted - somehow !! we each use our vans in different ways, like we do our houses, and whilst you need capacity for beers etc i need space for organic porridge/soya milk and books !!

replace the books with a kindle that will save a bit of weight

 

[ricc]

grossly overinflated tyres tend to wear the tread in the centre ..

grossly underinflated tend to wear more on both edges

but its not an exact science.


one edge worn more means something isnt aligned properly in either suspension or steering.

 

[Channa]

grossly overinflated tyres tend to wear the tread in the centre ..

grossly underinflated tend to wear more on both edges

but its not an exact science.


one edge worn more means something isnt aligned properly in either suspension or steering.

indeed, which is why I mentioned the rear tyres, no steering to worry about . A good experienced tyre fitter can tell often from looking at a tyre whether it has been under/over inflated or indeed the steering geometry requires correction

Channa

 

[Deleted member 46277]

hi delica girl is this link any help?
Mitsubishi Delica MOTORHOME 5/6 BERTH 2.5 TD MANUAL 4WD TOYOTA HIACE | in Winterbourne, Bristol | Gumtree

 

[Deleted member 46277]

hi delica girl is this link any help
Mitsubishi Delica MOTORHOME 5/6 BERTH 2.5 TD MANUAL 4WD TOYOTA HIACE | in Winterbourne, Bristol | Gumtree

 

[trevskoda]

grossly overinflated tyres tend to wear the tread in the centre ..

grossly underinflated tend to wear more on both edges

but its not an exact science.


one edge worn more means something isnt aligned properly in either suspension or steering.

Like the mark one imp.:scared::lol-053:

 

[listerdiesel]

Going back a few pages, the Japanese plate that was found with 2.4 and 3.5 on it suggests rather strongly to me that those are the GVW for the solo vehicle and the GTW when towing a trailer, very similar to our Bedford Midi that we had some years back. More than 3.5 tonnes would have required a tachograph for commercial use, so many makers kept it below the limit.

Given the engine size and rating, I wouldn't have thought much more was feasible.

Just a thought.

Peter

 

[delicagirl]

hi delica girl is this link any help
Mitsubishi Delica MOTORHOME 5/6 BERTH 2.5 TD MANUAL 4WD TOYOTA HIACE | in Winterbourne, Bristol | Gumtree

Hi factorydave thanks for the gumtree link - the van at £7995 appears to be an identical van to mine, (which i paid £10k for 2 years ago) , and it is being sold by the same shyster dealer. This one is priced at almost half the price of the last one he had for sale... so there is summat not right !!!!! He lists the dimensions and says the gross weight is 2520 KG(KILOGRAM).