Delica - the next challenge - help please me re weight issues

Tbear said:
It has to be porous for the water to readily soak through to prevent burning but I like the idea of pan liner. Maybe you could have a mesh pan? Extremely lightweight and no washing up. Are we onto making our first million :) Wild Camping Pots inc

Richard
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Keeping with the foil liner, a metal framed support with removable clay bases to suit the size of liner you are using?
 
Could you not kinda 'Justify' the extra weight IF the you was to use Aluminum Bowls ?. They can go ON the Hob, IN the oven & ofcoursebe used as Plates or Bowls to eat from !. Because they are Multipurpose you will actually only need a cpl of the nesting camping type, They even come with lids.


While your grub is cooking, it will give you time to Whittle a Spoon & Fork that can be chucked after use, saving having to carry cutlery around with you, & on the washing up lol lol.

Paul.
 
And it works well, with a good heavy pan can last for years but we where just having fun with an idea for something which weighs next to nothing and could just be thrown away afterwards.

Richard
 
Ah, but the task is to eliminate washing up of messy pans but in a reasonably economical way. A self-supporting disposable aluminium pan/bowl would be pretty expensive (and in fact are pretty much what cheap camping saucepans are). A foil liner on a support will have the strength, plus a handle to move it.

So ...to keep on topic, how is this weight saving? Disposable saucepans = reduced washing up = less water to carry = less weight. 100 pan liners = 1Kg/1L water.
 
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Nesting Zombie said:
Could you not kinda 'Justify' the extra weight IF the you was to use Aluminum Bowls ?. They can go ON the Hob, IN the oven & ofcoursebe used as Plates or Bowls to eat from !. Because they are Multipurpose you will actually only need a cpl of the nesting camping type, They even come with lids.


While your grub is cooking, it will give you time to Whittle a Spoon & Fork that can be chucked after use, saving having to carry cutlery around with you, & on the washing up lol lol.

Paul.
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Even I can whittle Chop Sticks :)

Richard
 
wildebus said:
Keeping with the foil liner, a metal framed support with removable clay bases to suit the size of liner you are using?
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Rapidly getting out of my depth here (I can heat baked beans with the best of them) but foil seems to work well in an oven environment but does not do so well on an intense flame. Therefore in should work well as long as it has good wide contact with something that conducts heat well. Good for a Dutch oven but not so good if you want to loose weight.

Richard
 
wildebus said:
Ah, but the task is to eliminate washing up of messy pans but in a reasonably economical way. A self-supporting disposable aluminium pan/bowl would be pretty expensive (and in fact are pretty much what cheap camping saucepans are). A foil liner on a support will have the strength, plus a handle to move it.

So ...to keep on topic, how is this weight saving? Disposable saucepans = reduced washing up = less water to carry = less weight. 100 pan liners = 1Kg/1L water.
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That's the easy bit,,,
Get a Hamster to lick them clean over night, Then recycle the Nutrient rich droppings left as a result by Baking Chocolate chip n Raison biscuits in the same pan !,,,(Just remember to remove Hamster before Baking !)
 
Nesting Zombie said:
Could you not kinda 'Justify' the extra weight IF the you was to use Aluminum Bowls ?. They can go ON the Hob, IN the oven & ofcoursebe used as Plates or Bowls to eat from !. Because they are Multipurpose you will actually only need a cpl of the nesting camping type, They even come with lids.


While your grub is cooking, it will give you time to Whittle a Spoon & Fork that can be chucked after use, saving having to carry cutlery around with you, & on the washing up lol lol.

Paul.
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the problem about my whittling skills - as I learnt in a free "Ebbw Vale Forest-Survival-Course" last year - is that I would need a chunk of wood as big as a bus to start with - in order to end up with a blunt pen-knife-sized implement - let alone a spoon and fork as well.. !!! A bus-load-chunk of wood might rather defeat the whole "weight saving project" - dontcha think ?:lol-061:
 
I tried to weigh my van table tonight - its heavy and large - what a performance !!! I know how much I weigh, so I figured I would hold the table and get on the electronic scales - that may have worked, except there was no way I could read the scales whilst holding said table. So I got off the scales, put the table on the scales and held it gently with one finger - nowt - eventually an annoying message saying ERR came up - err what does that mean - other than error. Maybe cos tables don't have "Warm Feet to activate" the electronics..... who knows.... So I get my next door neighbour in to read the scales while I am standing on it and clutching table to my chest - according to her eyesight we weigh 12kgs between us (me and table) I WISH !!

Time for tea Zebedee......

Suddenly remember that the table was in the van when it was weighed "empty" - so its been accounted for already...... DOH .. so why am I weighing it ??? Who knows....... :anyone:
 
Tbear said:
A paper pan has a life expectancy of minutes but that does not prevent you from doing research to improve it. Who knows we may be onto a whole new generation of cookware? Chilli however may be a bit of a messy way to start it :)

Richard
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I can see the TV Advert now "CHILLI WEAR - GET YER PANS CLEANED THE NATURAL WAY - PAN-CLEANING HAMSTERS - SPECIALLY TRAINED IN FAR EASTERN CUISINE - SEPTEMBER DISCOUNT WE PAY YOU TO TAKE 'EM AWAY....."
 
Unless you get the hair on the hamster to stand up stiff and then you can clean your pans with that!!! Hamsters don't wiegh much!!! :anyone:
 
jeanette said:
Unless you get the hair on the hamster to stand up stiff and then you can clean your pans with that!!! Hamsters don't wiegh much!!! :anyone:
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mind you young ladies can save some payload with cheesecloth tops and long skirts .
hee hee .
used to be the way when campers were of the smaller varietey like vw,s etc .
go on you know you want to. hee hee.
even wear a little bell round your neck if you want to.
 
vwalan said:
mind you young ladies can save some payload with cheesecloth tops and long skirts .
hee hee .
used to be the way when campers were of the smaller varietey like vw,s etc .
go on you know you want to. hee hee.
even wear a little bell round your neck if you want to.
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Could wear a little bell round your wrist!! Mmmm no that wouldn't work would it!!! :lol-061::lol-061: I'm saying nothing!!!
 
jeanette said:
Could wear a little bell round your wrist!! Mmmm no that wouldn't work would it!!! :lol-061::lol-061: I'm saying nothing!!!
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i could rattle a big bell and shout unclean . hee hee .
mind i had a wash last year and i,m sure i didnt need it .
only trying to help. ha ha .
 
I can see where this thread is going with helpful weight saving suggestions:idea-007:

Inflate the tyres with nitrogen instead of air.

Fit partworn tires.

Sand the exterior paintwork off.

Chuck the passenger seat. Same for cushions, and replace with inflatables.

Scrape any rust off. Remove decals and nameplates.

Keep the engine oil level on the dipstick on the low mark.

Shorten exhaust system.

Just a few sensible suggestions, I'm sure I could think of a few ridiculous ones as well!
 
A lot of people never fill their fuel tanks above half full. On some vans, that could be a 40kg or more saving.
 
David I think you may have misunderstood - I know how much I weigh and its NOWHERE near 80 kgs - so me and my table cannot possibly weigh more than 100 kgs. Tomorrow I may ask a neighbour with better eye sight to come in and see if she can read my scales when I am on there holding the table .... - my guess is that the table cannot weigh more than 6-10 kilos - so yes a wooden table may be a possibility for more weight saving measures.

I am getting quite glad that the weekend is in sight as I can go away and enjoy a few days away without worrying about weight - the vans or mine !!!!
 
Byronic said:
I can see where this thread is going with helpful weight saving suggestions:idea-007:

Inflate the tyres with nitrogen instead of air.

Fit partworn tires.

Sand the exterior paintwork off.

Chuck the passenger seat. Same for cushions, and replace with inflatables.

Scrape any rust off. Remove decals and nameplates.

Keep the engine oil level on the dipstick on the low mark.

Shorten exhaust system.

Just a few sensible suggestions, I'm sure I could think of a few ridiculous ones as well!
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you could get a divorce that cuts down on the weight alot . .then you can add toys like m,bikes . spear guns . another wet suit. etc .
but really i think dg is possibly single and really needs to travel with someone with lots of pay load hee hee .
is that silly enough.
mind with my good looks ,charm , and nice personality and not at all vain . could she do better . ?
mind i,m looking for a female with a big bag of money in one hand and a big bag of tools in the other and know how to use them .
should you know of any send them my way . hee hee
 
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