Change the name. This term is outdated: WildCamping

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runnach said:
Cale, there are plenty quiet Aires in rural France where where you can continue being an unsociable bugger 🤭 or wee village in Archigny there is a free Aire incl ehu, with the latter being on a first come basis. I’ve passed it many times at night while walking dog to find one or none parked up, but the maire put up the cash 💰 to install. One Aire we stopped at at Vers, south France 🇫🇷 we had the 5 euro pn Aire to ourselves, this included hot water single shower block and same with WC.

I’d say using both above examples are wild camping on an Aire with facilities, which can vary. Beggars belief how some countries can fund these facilities, here in UK, there is very little.
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We could and should learn from Europe.
And vast fortunes don’t need to be spent.
 
“So you can’t be bothered, you are happy to sneak off to the dwindling stock of remaining quiet corners...that’s your prerogative...but why keep p......g on those who are prepared to put in the hard work?

On a personal note, I stay out of the highlands in the summer...I’ve no desire to add to their problems, but I’ll do what little I can to help resolve them...how about you?”

That’s a tad unfair considering this thread is in response to the OP and the CAMPRA edict. Besides I’m sure you stay away from the midges in summer 😂😂
 
runnach said:
Don’t disagree with you Bill. For me wild camping is purely a term used by many, whether on a CP or out in the sticks somewhere.

At the moment Litter Britain is ramping up, which will impact on those of us who camp up somewhere and are responsible. As I have mentioned in previous posts, some, not all tent campers are ruining it for the majority of both MH/Campervan responsible users and owners.

Having Aire like setups like what is available on the Hebrides, will take the pressure off mainland popular areas?

Or better still, let us on these areas that are no longer allowed, or barrier in place to police, as in report anti social and littering behaviour would help?

I don’t see the logic where I can’t enter a rural area due to a barrier or locked gate, yet those with a tent are allowed and in some cases cause havoc and trash many of our beautiful spots. 😡
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Could not agree more Terry.

I have had two chats with the man in charge of Fife’s new set up.
And he highlighted your point about Motorhome owners helping to police the car parks.

But as we have seen here on this thread, we are not only taking on the people in power, but some owners as well. I just don’t understand why are not as one in this, singing from the same hymn book. But then people are entitled to their opinions.
But I honestly think that if we just sit back accepting what’s going on things will continue to get worse. I hope the fb group get organised and form a body. If they do I will be more than happy to join, and be active within it.
 
Now that I have made a few of you smile, my serious opinions. First I will say I'm happy to go along with Phil's views as he does the hard work.
If I were to say I'm going camping, most people would expect me to do it in a tent. When I explain it's in a motorhome I generally receive mild abuse over how soft I am and it's not real camping.
So from this you might deduce that wild camping is seen to be in the wilderness. Then due to American t.v. you defecate into a plastic bag and hang it on a tree!
A long time ago I had to live in a vehicle as a necessity, and the only way I got away with it was by leave no trace. I was lucky as I had somewhere I could wash and keep clean.
At this time the "new age travellers" were still destroying the countryside and anywhere else they set up camp.
So the idea of a home built motorhome was not acceptable. It was very hard to find a campsite that would accept you. Then if you did get in, you had to sufferer the disapproving looks of those that had purchased or rented plastic motorhomes.
So maybe if the description is important in a name, maybe " Off Grid Motor Homing" would make more sense.
 
Apparently we are not alone in being villified ............ this is currently on the BBC updates

"Figures suggest that more people than ever are heading to Britain's rivers with the easing of lockdown - renewing calls for better public rights of access.

It comes as MPs are to consider proposals aimed at opening up the waterways to all. But after recent incidences of overcrowding and littering, there are fears more people on rivers could "cause chaos".

The Canal & Rivers Trust, British Canoeing, the Outdoor Swimming Society and the Angling Trust all report a surge in interest during lockdown and after the easing of restrictions began.

Unlike in Scotland, there is currently no "right to roam" equivalent on waterways in England and Wales.

The vast majority of rivers in England and Wales - around 95% - are in private hands and access is limited. If you swim, fish or paddle without the right permission, you are breaking the law.

"The Crown owns the water you swim in, while the person who owns the property up to the bank is also said to own the bed of the river up to the middle," says Nick Hayes, author of The Book of Trespass."
 
Wild camping in a luxury box on wheels sounds a bit odd imo but I can't think of a better expression of what we do. Wilding possibly?
 
SquirrellCook said:
I get very angry about this name changing. I've always wanted to be Gay, but I'm a miserable person with no homosexual intent.
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Thats nothing (feel the four yorkshiremen creeping in) I'm black but nobody sees it apart from my thera pissed.
 
Personally speaking I am here under a misnomer.. I never "wild camp". My missis (and I ) like the toilet and shower block facilities on a camp site. I would never ever consider doing a crap into the porta potti.. (its strictly just for a few pees in the middle of the night) I like electric hook up and everything that it brings.
We only go for small private sites (not the butlins ones) here in UK and France too
I came across this forum a few years ago via the late David Olley (Wintonian) who we met in France

My thoughts are to keep the "Wild Camping" name for this forum
 
Unfortunately no matter what the name is there will always be people who dislike it for a myirad of ill informed spurious reasons.
 
When I came across this site it was because I googled Wild Camping. I quickly realized that it really had nothing to do with what I had started out to look for but because of the threads and the people, i stayed and never regret it. Keep up the good work and keep the title.;)
 
Val54 said:
Apparently we are not alone in being villified ............ this is currently on the BBC updates

"Figures suggest that more people than ever are heading to Britain's rivers with the easing of lockdown - renewing calls for better public rights of access.

It comes as MPs are to consider proposals aimed at opening up the waterways to all. But after recent incidences of overcrowding and littering, there are fears more people on rivers could "cause chaos".

The Canal & Rivers Trust, British Canoeing, the Outdoor Swimming Society and the Angling Trust all report a surge in interest during lockdown and after the easing of restrictions began.

Unlike in Scotland, there is currently no "right to roam" equivalent on waterways in England and Wales.

The vast majority of rivers in England and Wales - around 95% - are in private hands and access is limited. If you swim, fish or paddle without the right permission, you are breaking the law.

"The Crown owns the water you swim in, while the person who owns the property up to the bank is also said to own the bed of the river up to the middle," says Nick Hayes, author of The Book of Trespass."
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Does that mean you have to swim without touching the bottom?
 
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