Cat I Alarm Systems

Iain55

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HI,
Looking for advice.
Noticed my insurer doesn't cover theft or damage through theft without CAT 1 alarm and immobiliser.

I am considering getting one fitted, suggestions ?
I'm based just north of Glasgow.
 

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To comply with your insurers conditions you may have to use a manufacturers recommended fitter, try looking on the various manufacturers sites for your area on their list. We had a Vodaphone Cat 1 ( used to be Cobra ) and very pleased.
 

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To comply with your insurers conditions you may have to use a manufacturers recommended fitter, try looking on the various manufacturers sites for your area on their list. We had a Vodaphone Cat 1 ( used to be Cobra ) and very pleased.
What sort of cost am I looking at ?
 

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Depending on the specification £400 - £500. Newer van's are easier to fit I believe, they just plug into the Cambus system eliminating a lot of wiring. I saw this explained on YouTube but it baffles me I'm afraid !
 

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Depending on the specification £400 - £500. Newer van's are easier to fit I believe, they just plug into the Cambus system eliminating a lot of wiring. I saw this explained on YouTube but it baffles me I'm afraid !
Thanks, seen a price of £420
 

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That sounds a fair price. Check if you can isolate the inside of the van, essential if you leave a pet in the van or a window/skylight open.
 

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Depending on the specification £400 - £500. Newer van's are easier to fit I believe, they just plug into the Cambus system eliminating a lot of wiring. I saw this explained on YouTube but it baffles me I'm afraid !
Sadly types like these can be by-passed in seconds and to be quite frank not worth the spend, plus if they plug straight into the OBD socket (like the image below) they are not Thatcham approved!!. The Sevel By-Pass device that is on the open market can have both an alarm like the one suggested and the factory immobiliser overcome in less than 2 mins in most cases (I've timed us overriding an A-Class in 1:24).
If you are to look at a system, it should be an independent unit with independent keys (not using the Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen keys to arm and disarm), the contacts to the doors and lockers should be hard-wired (not using Non-Approved wireless contacts).
 

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Go on ifitstuff.com go for autowatch or Vodafone (was cobra) the autowatch has the ability to add wireless door contacts or Pir’s make sure its a cat1 with remotes not a 2 to 1 upgrade that uses oem remote
 

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Interesting thread this my alarm has failed it's a cobra alarm but remote is shot and not working also an alarm fitter says it needs to go on computer at £75 an hour looks cheaper for me to buy new and just replace the ecu as all wiring is there
 

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Interesting thread this my alarm has failed it's a cobra alarm but remote is shot and not working also an alarm fitter says it needs to go on computer at £75 an hour looks cheaper for me to buy new and just replace the ecu as all wiring is there
The thing is by the time you pay for a remote and then like you said the programming, you could end up spending the same costs for a new unit that has a warranty compared to dealing with an older system. Only thing to bear in mind is that if it is a Thatcham listed product and a new version, you may need a certificate and proof of installation, so may not be a DIY job.
 
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The cobra cat1 have a separate immobiliser module which is connected to the the alarm module by a single wire which receives a digital signal up the wire to disarm the immobiliser and the immobiliser module doesn’t have a plug on it it’s hard wired so might need the immobiliser module changing
 

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The thing is by the time you pay for a remote and then like you said the programming, you could end up spending the same costs for a new unit that has a warranty compared to dealing with an older system. Only thing to bear in mind is that if it is a Thatcham listed product and a new version, you may need a certificate and proof of installation, so may not be a DIY job.
I used to fit thatcham category 1 and 2 alarms to Hondas and you needed the fitters certificate number for insurers. As, as been said. The wiring has to be incorporated into the vehicles wiring so it looks as if it was original fit, that includes any tape around wiring. I would have thought £1000, upwards for a system fitting, proffesionally.
 
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