CAMpRA…slow but steady progress

That seems far too much, witzend, especially if we all help out which I am aiming to do as it benefits all of us, or should do. Mind you, from that link you kindly gave, it looks, as though it is supposed to replace the Caravan and Motorhome Club which in view of the CMC attitude to off grid parking would not be a bad thing if, of course, it is recognised by other organisations. You know I once phoned to ask if I could spend a night at Baltic Wharf well off season but it was full up so I went anyway hoping for a fill and dump. They refused me the fill and dump stating that it was not the clubs policy to encourage off grid parking, see the anomaly there? but the guy did tell me of a half decent spot to spend the night a short distance away. In the morning I filled up at a marina bollard, kind boat owner. The dump could wait as travelling with three cassettes I had capacity to spare.
Yours Harry.
 
Harrytherid said:
That seems far too much, witzend, especially if we all help out which I am aiming to do as it benefits all of us, or should do. Mind you, from that link you kindly gave, it looks, as though it is supposed to replace the Caravan and Motorhome Club which in view of the CMC attitude to off grid parking would not be a bad thing if, of course, it is recognised by other organisations. You know I once phoned to ask if I could spend a night at Baltic Wharf well off season but it was full up so I went anyway hoping for a fill and dump. They refused me the fill and dump stating that it was not the clubs policy to encourage off grid parking, see the anomaly there? but the guy did tell me of a half decent spot to spend the night a short distance away. In the morning I filled up at a marina bollard, kind boat owner. The dump could wait as travelling with three cassettes I had capacity to spare.
Yours Harry.
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I utterly despise them.
I blame them for much of the problems we are now facing.
They are happy to take £54 from members annually who own mohos, and then ignore their needs. Yes they changed their name, it’s only a shame they never changed their money grabbing attitude as well. I am not completely admonishing the C&CC, but at least in certain sites they make provision for us, and I have heard they also done so on an ad hoc basis on other sites.
The C&MC have some good sites and we use them, but I have no time for this organisation whatsoever.
 
CAMC.... not for me , I am cancelling membership... just a shame it only got renewed 2 months ago......
Last week in Norfolk I got told by the Kamp Commandant
" you cant fill with water from there , that is for caravans only"
"That is not water for motorhomes "
Did he want me to use the river?....
I got reported like a little child,
 
Drover said:
CAMC.... not for me , I am cancelling membership... just a shame it only got renewed 2 months ago......
Last week in Norfolk I got told by the Kamp Commandant
" you cant fill with water from there , that is for caravans only"
"That is not water for motorhomes "
Did he want me to use the river?....
I got reported like a little child,
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name and shame the twat ,have you reported this matter to H Q?
 
witzend said:
Just found that they are associated with £36.75 membership fee
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On www.campra.org.uk you will find that we are associated with other groups in other ways. The Motorcaravanners club MCC is one of the two organisations who award exemption certificates for aires we find. The other is Motorhome Fun. Both organisations allow non members to use the exempted sites they certify. No membership is necessary. Search for sites put all new aires on their platforms. If they are not appearing on the app you need to update the app.
 
Yes Drover, I am with you in the cancellation game and, like you, am irritated that I have only recently renewed my membership. I have cancelled my direct debit for next year. As I no longer go abroad (European immaturity, spiteful French and obstructive Germans), the ferry reductions that membership conferred are no longer relevant so unimportant but insurance reductions still are. Maybe the new membership will confer that advantage. Time will tell. Yours Harry.
How does one Quote a previous entry, I have tried numerous ways and failed miserably, please
 
Harrytherid said:
Yes Drover, I am with you in the cancellation game and, like you, am irritated that I have only recently renewed my membership. I have cancelled my direct debit for next year. As I no longer go abroad (European immaturity, spiteful French and obstructive Germans), the ferry reductions that membership conferred are no longer relevant so unimportant but insurance reductions still are. Maybe the new membership will confer that advantage. Time will tell. Yours Harry.
How does one Quote a previous entry, I have tried numerous ways and failed miserably, please
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First click +quote then <-reply all found within the post window you are quoting…..
 
Biggarmac said:
On www.campra.org.uk you will find that we are associated with other groups in other ways. The Motorcaravanners club MCC is one of the two organisations who award exemption certificates for aires we find. The other is Motorhome Fun. Both organisations allow non members to use the exempted sites they certify. No membership is necessary. Search for sites put all new aires on their platforms. If they are not appearing on the app you need to update the app.
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Have to disagree with you Re the PAID for App, there is no filter in advance search for Campra Aires within the App, but there is within the FREE website.
See screen shot below of the website filters happy to be corrected for the App settings and yes it is updated regularly.
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st3v3 said:
To quote a single post, just click reply immediately underneath it.
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That seems to work thanks st3v3 but Drovers version just had me confused , I have reached that kind of age, but thanks for bothering to reply.
Regards, Harry
 
Two friends who have worked for the CMC (as it is now called) for over 15 years tell me that the club is having trouble recruiting wardens this year.
The club has been affected by the general shortage of workers in the hospitality sector this year.
Probably means that some of the wardens will be even worse calibre (i.e. no customer-facing skills) than in previous years?

I'm also reliably informed that a lot of new wardens start work with the club, then quit almost immediately, leaving big gaps in staffing and ergo causing problems all round. The fact that this is an increasing occurrence is quite telling. Not sure what it tells of, but certainly indicates that all is not working as it should within that particular organisation. 🤷‍♀️
 
mariesnowgoose said:
Two friends who have worked for the CMC (as it is now called) for over 15 years tell me that the club is having trouble recruiting wardens this year.
The club has been affected by the general shortage of workers in the hospitality sector this year.
Probably means that some of the wardens will be even worse calibre (i.e. no customer-facing skills) than in previous years?

I'm also reliably informed that a lot of new wardens start work with the club, then quit almost immediately, leaving big gaps in staffing and ergo causing problems all round. The fact that this is an increasing occurrence is quite telling. Not sure what it tells of, but certainly indicates that all is not working as it should within that particular organisation. 🤷‍♀️
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They are stuck in the past, with outdated attitudes towards everything.
What they did to us last year denying us access to the showers at their Culloden site was diabolical.
The C&CC refunded 3 months membership due to Covid, did this lot, no chance.
They still see us as the noisy neighbours that they have to be nice to because we give them so much of our money. Soon mohos will outnumber caravans, in some sites they already do. They are sleepwalking whilst dreaming of the past when caravans where the mainstay, at best now it’s 50/50.
Its us and them, and that stems from not just some of their members from both sides, it’s endemic within how they operate and treat us. To say that they don’t condone wild camping is an utter disgrace. Thats Like saying they condone cyclists for cycling, or children playing football, nothing to condone.
Their monthly magazine is full of self indulgent nonsense, and full of self praise.
I simply skirt through it only reading anything I think might be useful.
The C&CC magazine is far better.
 
This is the site where we got told not for motorhomes
Told to use service point that is clearly marked on the map. Sally pointed out there was only a waste point and we only wanted water..
Clearly it was not marked as a motorhome service point... on asking where he pointed to a waste point and flipped his lid.
Just got email from them but not opened it yet.... no time I'm off to the pub.


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I am getting regular feedback from my friends about C&MC this year.

I gather the club is appointing some new wardens who are completely unsuitable for the job, much like the sound of the guy Drover has described above - maybe they are doing so out of desperation, i.e. anybody who's willing to take the job on, otherwise the site(s) would have to close down entirely due to lack of staff?
 
C&MC try to make you register your 'unit' for ease of booking or some such reason. They provide a long drop-down list of brands and models to choose from. If your 'unit' does not appear they request that you email them with a description for approval. Well, my van is a Wildax, a well established brand, a NCC approved professional conversion, and it's not on the list.
Perhaps it's because Wildax tend to equip their conversions for off-grid use. Can't be having that, can we?
Cynic, moi?
 
Yes marie. I've been following that thread also and perhaps my post should have been placed there.
I hope my comment has not been misunderstood. It was meant to be sarcastic regarding the discriminatory practice of the C&MC and I fully sympathise with the unfortunate experiences of the OP in the other thread.
 
number14 said:
Yes marie. I've been following that thread also and perhaps my post should have been placed there.
I hope my comment has not been misunderstood. It was meant to be sarcastic regarding the discriminatory practice of the C&MC and I fully sympathise with the unfortunate experiences of the OP in the other thread.
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No, your comment was not misunderstood and I concur about discriminatory practices (y)

There are a few longer term wardens working for the C&MC who believe the business has lost the plot on several levels, and not just with their customers.
 
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