Calor gas

[Tezza33]

I offered the Campingaz bottles to my neighbour who has just bought a Bongo, he has no gas system fitted at the moment so I offered them with a regulator to get him going but he just replied that he didn't know which bottles to go with, there is no helping some people, I think he thought that I was trying to just offload them, I am pleased now that he didn't take them, I offered them free before I threw them out but I have just checked the price on eBay for empty bottles, not cheap to exchange in the UK but they are cheap enough in Spain

 

[n brown]

in Portugal to get a campingaz refill , you would take the empty to the till and get your deposit back , 25 euros , then buy a new bottle if you needed one . i could buy bottles at the scrappy for 5 euros at that time -nice little earner

 

[Debroos]

Just looked at camping Gaz prices. £38 for gas £27 for cylinder, 2.72kg! Last time we got calor 4.5 kg is was £16/18 in the summer

 

[witzend]

Fill your small bottles from a larger one leave the small empty on the floor have the larger full one upside down higher say on a chair connect together open both valves and the liguid gas will flow down into the lower one. Don,t happen quickly give it time

 

[Deleted member 95622]

Just looked at camping Gaz prices. £38 for gas £27 for cylinder, 2.72kg! Last time we got calor 4.5 kg is was £16/18 in the summer

I heard some news about Calor a recently, but speaking of Camping Gaz ... Our van came with a Cadac Trio-Power Pack thing that takes 3 of the 227g cartridges - In our pre-van days we used a portable 2 burner + grill stove which we use the Camping Gaz 907 cylinders (2.27Kg) and I have 2 full ones still, so I'm about to purchase the necessary widgets to plumb them into the cooker (Basically a Cadac quick disconnect adapter to go after the regulator)

(The chap who built the van spent some time in Europe where Camping Gaz is "the thing" over there)

My plan was to then try to get a 4.5Kg Calor bottle and use that instead but it looks like we might be stuck with the more expensive camping gaz for now - however working the numbers, it seems a 4-pack of the 227g cartridges at £10 a pack; £11/Kg works out a little cheaper than a refill for the 907 cylinder; £14/Kg but no-where near that £3.60/Kg (ish) for the Calor 4.5Kg cylinder...

The cartridges are convenient and I have a little heater that takes them, but not as cost effective as the Calor cylinders.

However the main issue right now is the temperature - Blue (Butane) cylinders are struggling in the chilly under-cooker cupboard in the van and I've resorted to directing the heater at them...

-G

 

[Greengrass]

Fill your small bottles from a larger one leave the small empty on the floor have the larger full one upside down higher say on a chair connect together open both valves and the liguid gas will flow down into the lower one. Don,t happen quickly give it time

But only do it if you know what your doing like over filling them and if you have a leak one little spark and it's good night see you in the after life

 

[trevskoda]

But only do it if you know what your doing like over filling them and if you have a leak one little spark and it's good night see you in the after life

Is that like smoking in the loo and farting?
I have seen folks filling the car with fuel and a fag in their gob.

 

[Greengrass]

Is that like smoking in the loo and farting?
I have seen folks filling the car with fuel and a fag in their gob.

But some are born with no brains I have seen what happen when you have a lpg leak faster than blink of a eye

 

[n brown]

no oxygen - no bang bang

 

[Deleted member 95622]

Is that like smoking in the loo and farting?
I have seen folks filling the car with fuel and a fag in their gob.

Although...

https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/holy-smoke-cigarette-end-simply-cant-set-petrol-alight-2510940

-G

 

[campervanannie]

Oops double dip

 

[campervanannie]

Goes without saying, but I think it's highly likely to be supply chain issues causing the shortage of gas bottles and not the 'oversupply of bottles in circulation' that Calor are claiming.

Unless folks have been living permanently without any contact with the outside world the last 3 years they must surely have noticed that all kinds of things, not just gas cylinders, have been seriously affected by the disrupted supply chains.

You don't bring the world to a full stop with lockdowns, break off relations with Europe at the same time as serious wars start up on the UK doorstep without some very unpleasant longer term outcomes across an awful lot of UK goods and services.

You got gas bottles, hang onto them or flog 'em if you don't need them.
Wully's idea of investing in Flogas in the short term ain't a bad idea, but I haven't a clue about stocks and shares so can't help there!

LPG isn't assigned to the scrap heap for a while yet.

This from Facebook group tonight.
Further to my post this morning this is the communication sent to Calor stockists.

Just wanted to provide some communication relating to a specific retail sizes cylinders that some of your industry members may currently purchase from Calor.

Calor Retail Stockists will receive individual communication on this as the letters are due to hit later this week.

Changes to our cylinder range

From 1st February 2023 the following cylinders will be discontinued: Cube, 3.9kg Propane, 4.5kg Butane, 6Lite Propane and 12kg Butane cylinders.

Why have we done this?

Improving our cylinder service is a priority. Our existing range of cylinders is creating complexity within our supply chain. This means longer change over times and reduced filling capacity on high volume key sizes. That’s why we’ve taken the difficult decision to reduce our cylinder range, simplifying the business.

We realise this change will affect customers that rely on these sizes, but we know these changes are necessary to significantly improve our cylinder service.

Suitable Alternatives

There are suitable alternatives to these cylinder sizes within our range, or within the Campingaz range. For example, customers looking for a 3.9kg Propane can be offered a 6kg Propane, and those looking for a 4.5kg Butane offered a 7kg Butane.

 

[trevskoda]

Although...

https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/holy-smoke-cigarette-end-simply-cant-set-petrol-alight-2510940

-G

True but it is the vapor/air at the fill point that goes bang big time.

 

[REC]

A real pain as our conversion included a gas bottle cupboard for the 3.9kg cylinder we use. A bigger one is unnecessary as only for hob. A 6kg won't fit as too tall..

 

[Robmac]

True but it is the vapor/air at the fill point that goes bang big time.

You still need a naked flame Trev;

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Not that I would risk it myself!

 

[Costers]

Found this on calor website. Forget an announcement, let’s just sneak it into Q&A.

Your questions about our Cylinder range simplification, answered.

www.calor.co.uk

 

[GeoffL]

Found this on calor website. Forget an announcement, let’s just sneak it into Q&A.

Your questions about our Cylinder range simplification, answered.

www.calor.co.uk

FWIW, they did post it in "News" -- but it was difficult to find...

Calor announces plan to streamline its cylinder range to improve customer service

Calor, the UK’s leading supplier of LPG, has announced plans to streamline its cylinder range as part of its first steps to improving customer service and the availability of cylinders sizes in higher demand.

www.calor.co.uk

 

[number14]

FWIW, they did post it in "News" -- but it was difficult to find...

Calor announces plan to streamline its cylinder range to improve customer service

Calor, the UK’s leading supplier of LPG, has announced plans to streamline its cylinder range as part of its first steps to improving customer service and the availability of cylinders sizes in higher demand.

www.calor.co.uk

An absolute classic example of Hutber's Law.

(Hutber's law states that "improvement means deterioration". It is founded on the cynical observation that a stated improvement actually hides a deterioration.)

 

[merl]

An absolute classic example of Hutber's Law.

(Hutber's law states that "improvement means deterioration". It is founded on the cynical observation that a stated improvement actually hides a deterioration.)

Hutber's law makes sense of a lot of BS in the modern world. I used to buy a 2nd hand 1300 Astra estate every 2 years and then recycle them as my works van, everything was fine until they introduced the Hi Torque engine....it was gutless. Stopped eating Cadbury's cream eggs after they 'improved' the recipe absolutely crap now, hope they dont F about with whole nut/fruit and nut before I die, it could lead to a one way trip to Switzerland.

 

[GeoffL]

Hutber's law makes sense of a lot of BS in the modern world. I used to buy a 2nd hand 1300 Astra estate every 2 years and then recycle them as my works van, everything was fine until they introduced the Hi Torque engine....it was gutless. Stopped eating Cadbury's cream eggs after they 'improved' the recipe absolutely crap now, hope they dont F about with whole nut/fruit and nut before I die, it could lead to a one way trip to Switzerland.

I hadn't heard of Hutber's Law until @number14 's post -- but on reflection it seems so true. So often, "improvement" in food products means "shrinkflation"; i.e. the size of the item is reduced to hide considerable price increase per unit weight... ...and just take a look at the story of "new CocaCola"!