Bettws-y-Coed, almost an Aire.

If we want facilities like this to be provided we must be prepared to pay.

We dont want people to be able to accuse us as "freeloaders" and some authorities are using this as an excuse for not having overnight motorhome parking.

Peter
 
Payment Idea

What about having Wildcamping make a contribution and ask for a noticeboard be erected to promote the community, also honesty and advising those who stop that we have made a contribution for the good of everyone.
 
I struggled with this for 4 yrs as a councillor and due to soooooo many reasons decided my time would be better spent hitting myself with something heavy.
Reason 1, it invites travellers!
Erm, thats the idea
Reason 2, I would become a focal point for trouble!
As opposed to bus stations, public houses etc
Reason 3, If payment is reqd then the council would have to employ to recieve payments
This one really hurt me head, PUT A POP UP BARRIER WITH PAYMENT METER!
Real reason ................ its off the wall and "not british" so dont be silly and take your commie ideas elsewhere.

At the moment a good friend of mine is carrying on the fight in Staffordshire Moorlands as a councillor, however, as a man with morals I feel he will be ostracised very quickly, never the less the battle moves on.

Mr Slip
 
The long straight down the A5 past the big Hotel is a favourite spot for speed cameras. They step out of the hedgerow when they see a gap in the traffic & the next car gets done! The traffic is invariably doing 40-ish in a 30 zone so if you leave a gap for safety you will get a ticket, bless 'em. :scared:

Well, you know the answer - DON'T BREAK THE SPEED LIMIT.

Don't blame the speed camera, it's the driver who's at fault.
 
Just used this for the last two nights with my dogs, with out any problems,there were a couple of other overnighters. I paid the £4 per day charge but by the look of it most of the cars parking for the day don't bother, is this because it's a private car park owned by snowdon parks authority and they are unable to issue fines?
It is a private car park and users will be bound by any terms, conditions and charges displayed there. Enforcement is up to the NPA.

In fact the Snowdonia NPA do not allow overnight stays on this car park, however if this condition is not indicated on the car park signage it's my understanding that it cannot be enforced.

AndyC
 
Betws y coed

We stayed here last night. Very quiet no problems. Ticket machine wouldn't accept £4 (day rate) so I gave it £2 (4 hours) and have given it another £2 this morning - seems fair to me.
We went to the Bistro for dinner, I thought it was excellent - give it a try!
 
we stayed here last night. Very quiet no problems. Ticket machine wouldn't accept £4 (day rate) so i gave it £2 (4 hours) and have given it another £2 this morning - seems fair to me.
We went to the bistro for dinner, i thought it was excellent - give it a try!

very honest.
 
Is it this carpark?
I wont be staying but thought you might want some coordinates
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No you continue down past the train station and the motorhome area is right at the bottom of the road
 
Bushtrekker said by the station?

Here?
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The car park is further on than the station in your first location the station is on your left if you continue in this direction it is about 500m further on this road which is all car /bus parking areas
 
Station was on the right next to the railway line in the first picture, I figure you mean head North
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yep that is as close to the area as I think you can get...in you pic the kinda horseshoe area is the motorhome section.

cant tell left from right me!!!:yeahthat:
 
Betws y coed

Yes there is a sign for MHs but it does not mean overnighting or overweeking. I think we need to be careful how this place is used. 7 vans plus is just going to cause backlash and it will be another Scarborough or Cleveleys case and the authority will impose the overnight ban - happened in Llanberis with MHs turning up for the week - now no parking overnight....wait and see I have no doubt about it.
 
Stopped over here last night. There were 2 other vans. One went quite early this morning.
As we went to sort out our ticket, a welsh lady from one of the vans told us not to bother as she has stopped there several times and has never bothered paying "as nobody ever comes to check". We felt it was still better to pay, although there was nothing about an overnight charge, only "4 hourly" or "daily". Didn't matter anyway, because none of the machines would accept any money. They must shut down after a certain time.
We got a ticket first thing in the morning to cover the time we were there.

It is s lovely place to stop over. Good pubs, with good food. And dogs are very welcome in many pubs and shops!

Great idea - so the authority provides you with a facility to park and that Welsh lady does not pay the £4 fee. The money generated is essential for the park authority to maintain that car park...it's not a big ask is it for 24 hours?
 
manic

Tried this place over easter weekend - jam packed with hundreds of tourists, you could not park a car never mind a motorhome - went on elsewhere. Betws y Coed is good off season but can be difficult over next few months . You can probably arrive night time but soon get hemmed in if you stay past 10am.
 
Stopped over here last night. There were 2 other vans. One went quite early this morning.
As we went to sort out our ticket, a welsh lady from one of the vans told us not to bother as she has stopped there several times and has never bothered paying "as nobody ever comes to check". We felt it was still better to pay, although there was nothing about an overnight charge, only "4 hourly" or "daily". Didn't matter anyway, because none of the machines would accept any money. They must shut down after a certain time.
We got a ticket first thing in the morning to cover the time we were there.

It is s lovely place to stop over. Good pubs, with good food. And dogs are very welcome in many pubs and shops!

that type of attitude is very refreshing and restores a little more faith in us human beings
 
i dont get this way of thinking re to m homes in the uk,if is i was a mayor of a city or town i would want ppl rom other paets of the country and world for that matter to cum to share what the city has to offer, haveiing a car par for m homes to park over night via a ticket machine that is freee but works that u can go thoer for say up to three days a month working threw your reg plate so it doesnt not attract longterm users seems simple, thier are loads of c parks where you have to put in your reg plate, thier were done to stop ppl shareing one ticket as you left but could be used in this instance. regradless of your income level you are bound to send a min of a few pound even if its a bottle of milk from a locaal shop. loads of people in cars go to holiday places for the day and sum spending 100;s of pounds and others spend noting, so its not as if they can allign what you spend with car parking in an area, i go reg with frends for a day out on my bike to the coast cucling and sum times have a meal and sumtime spend nothing , if i respect the area and toilets and enjoy the experiance of the place and i would like to think local ppl would want to experiance this to share i dont see what the problem is with councils, I think all this prob is bound up with democracy, democracy is the a good concept but in areas like this its shows its floors, local cllrs would dare not stand up and have a stance that they wnat to attract m homes, not becasue they dont want to as they know it makes sense but they electorate on the whole have no concepet of the diffrence between the gypie community the bad elelmant and the respectable m home, this surprsies me give in most ppls street thier is prob a m home in a drive living with us so we know they are just like us. it needs brave councils and cllrs and democray doesnt lean to that concept, just my opion
 
Tried this place over easter weekend - jam packed with hundreds of tourists, you could not park a car never mind a motorhome - went on elsewhere. Betws y Coed is good off season but can be difficult over next few months . You can probably arrive night time but soon get hemmed in if you stay past 10am.



That happened to us a couple of years back in Devon. We only arrived on the Car Park after 6PM and there was plenty of room.

We went right to the back and parked in the corner with the rear overhanging the grass so we didn`t stick out too much.

Had a look at the board for the fee and saw that it only applied from 10AM to 6PM and nothing to say No Overnight Parking.

Spent a very peaceful and quiet night there. The next morning the wife wanted to spend a little time there and wander into
the village to have a look round and buy a few items to stock up.

I went and paid for a 4 hour ticket and away we went the idea being that we would come back have lunch then leave.

Got back to the Car Park and had the shock of our lives when we saw how full it was, they were virtually Double Parked !

We didn`t have a Cat In Hells Chance of getting out and it was after 4PM before we could even attempt it.........LOL

The Car Park Attendant was very understanding and saw the problem and said we didn`t need to buy another ticket.

We decided to spend another night there and leave nice and early the following morning.
 
I struggled with this for 4 yrs as a councillor and due to soooooo many reasons decided my time would be better spent hitting myself with something heavy.
Reason 1, it invites travellers!
Erm, thats the idea
Reason 2, I would become a focal point for trouble!
As opposed to bus stations, public houses etc
Reason 3, If payment is reqd then the council would have to employ to recieve payments
This one really hurt me head, PUT A POP UP BARRIER WITH PAYMENT METER!
Real reason ................ its off the wall and "not british" so dont be silly and take your commie ideas elsewhere.

At the moment a good friend of mine is carrying on the fight in Staffordshire Moorlands as a councillor, however, as a man with morals I feel he will be ostracised very quickly, never the less the battle moves on.

Mr Slip

your right slippers, as i was sayin in my response earlier i dont blame cllrs for not prsuing this, its just a floor with the current concept of democracy. alot of eurpean towns etc have mayors that can take thease types of decsions alot easier.

ypu mentioned staffordshire moorlands. and a cllr, its happens that my sister is a indpedent district cllr in staffordshire moorlands her name is lisa martin, if you google her you will get the cllrs website and her number call her or get the other cllr to call me and il speak to lisa for you, she independent minded, , a problem thos is if your a cllr in fr the area it wint affect its easy, but if your the councillor in the area effect that a difffent story, this is when the mayor system is so much better. as thease types of leaps of faith can be taken.

ppl are year after year getting more organised on single issuie polotics and its usualy for things they dont want i.e wind turbines new houseing etc, so geting facilities i feel will prove harder and harder to get.

pity ppl dont come together to fight for things they do want or think are postative in tier area. thats not a floor in democracy that more to do with us as humans
 

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